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I visited a parlour in Leicester and saw an Indian WG there I liked a lot.  

 

I've often thought if it's OK to get a number to see a parlour WG privately, is it common?

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I visited a parlour in Leicester and saw an Indian WG there I liked a lot.  

 

I've often thought if it's OK to get a number to see a parlour WG privately, is it common?

No idea how common it is but i have often asked Parlour and previously when i punted with them Agency WGs if they worked Indie and had an incall place. If they did and the overall rate they charged was less then i was paying through the Establishment its worked out a good deal for both of us, i paid less overall and the WG got 100% of my money instead of paying 30% or more of it to the Establishment.

 

As to it being ok, depends how you view it of course. A WG is supposed to be a free agent, an Establishment is there to get her the punters in exchange for the WG giving them a set cut of her fees. They may not like her seeing punters who first saw her pictures on their site as an Indie cutting them out, but business is business, if a WG earns more overall by making an arrangement like this thats her business in my opinion. No need for the Establishment to even know about it.

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I got a well known soho girl number after seeing her a few times,and now see her independently,glad I did as she no longer works there due to the recent closures

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Some SPs are brazen about it and some parlours are strict about sacking girls who do it.

 

But it is an obvious route for SPs to take if they have a place to work from or are happy using hotels. Some will also be happy doing outcalls.

 

I have heard an SP at one parlour speak almost viciously about how she gave as little in her service as she could when she thought the place took too big a cut (not the punter's fault of course) but gave a better service where the cut was better and presumably gave of her best if working as an individual so I think SPs are getting a bit more demanding of parlours to earn the cut they take rather than do little and expect SPs to sit around in a very quiet place.

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yep very common happens all the time, and I always ask for their number :)

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Some SPs are brazen about it and some parlours are strict about sacking girls who do it.

 

But it is an obvious route for SPs to take if they have a place to work from or are happy using hotels. Some will also be happy doing outcalls.

 

I have heard an SP at one parlour speak almost viciously about how she gave as little in her service as she could when she thought the place took too big a cut (not the punter's fault of course) but gave a better service where the cut was better and presumably gave of her best if working as an individual so I think SPs are getting a bit more demanding of parlours to earn the cut they take rather than do little and expect SPs to sit around in a very quiet place.

Of course in theory a Parlour works for the WG getting her her punters and providing her with the premises to work out of in exchange for an agreed cut. What else she does is her business, WGs arent employees, they are self employed and thus free agents to do as they wish. But i agree some Establishments get the raging hump if a WG makes a private Indie arrangement, fair enough from their point of view but i will try to get a better deal if i can as i do with anything in life. Doing business through a third party is often more expensive than going direct in my experiences. :)

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I see your point but in practice as parlours often sack girls that suggests they think they are employing the girls.

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I see your point but in practice as parlours often sack girls that suggests they think they are employing the girls.

Indeed so. Its interesting in my view as thats certainly not what all Parlour WGs believe though. I once posted about Adele of MK and HODs boss and she rebuked me saying she didnt have a boss. :)

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I see your point but in practice as parlours often sack girls that suggests they think they are employing the girls.

Employing and marketing / providing an incall location is different. I think it's never right to ask for private contact details, if the provider wants private clients then she should advertise privately. The cost of that marketing is not cheap if they want the same exposure as they will receive from well known parlours and agencies. Plus they will have to invest their time as well as their money.

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Employing and marketing / providing an incall location is different. I think it's never right to ask for private contact details, if the provider wants private clients then she should advertise privately. The cost of that marketing is not cheap if they want the same exposure as they will receive from well known parlours and agencies. Plus they will have to invest their time as well as their money.

 

Yes but this is not a business where ethics will count highly. I am not blaming anyone for that but it is not on the whole a calm, stable business where employers and employees are settled, dependable and in the main in it for the long term though there are lots of some longstanding examples.

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Yes but this is not a business where ethics will count highly. I am not blaming anyone for that but it is not on the whole a calm, stable business where employers and employees are settled, dependable and in the main in it for the long term though there are lots of some longstanding examples.

 

but if some people in this industry think you are taking the p1ss, they may react nastily to you or the girl...

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Some SPs are brazen about it and some parlours are strict about sacking girls who do it.

 

But it is an obvious route for SPs to take if they have a place to work from or are happy using hotels. Some will also be happy doing outcalls.

 

I have heard an SP at one parlour speak almost viciously about how she gave as little in her service as she could when she thought the place took too big a cut (not the punter's fault of course) but gave a better service where the cut was better and presumably gave of her best if working as an individual so I think SPs are getting a bit more demanding of parlours to earn the cut they take rather than do little and expect SPs to sit around in a very quiet place.

 

 

 

But how would a parlour find out?  It's only if the WG or the punter said so widely (like on this site). 

 

But then IMO it's not clearcut since it's not a contract or anything.  a WG can work where she wants IMO, even with rival parlours.

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If a girl wants you to have her number then what's the problem? No one's making her give it to you.

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I see your point but in practice as parlours often sack girls that suggests they think they are employing the girls.

 

No different to me sacking my builder or painter I suppose. They aren't my employees and I don't give them a P45 but they are still sacked.

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But how would a parlour find out?  It's only if the WG or the punter said so widely (like on this site). 

 

But then IMO it's not clearcut since it's not a contract or anything.  a WG can work where she wants IMO, even with rival parlours.

 

some punters are clearly in the client base of a parlour and may well report a girl offering her number. or the parlour may do a sting if they suspect this is going on.

come on. if a parlour thinks someone is trying to pull a fast one over them they will seek to protect their interests.

 

and many parlours may make a stipulation that girls may not work for a parlour thats less than (say) 50 miles away.  Why would they spend on advertising a girl is she is also available just down the road?

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No different to me sacking my builder or painter I suppose. They aren't my employees and I don't give them a P45 but they are still sacked.

but your builder or plumber havent been working under the umbrella of an agency that did the adverts and used the reputation to get them the work.

I do work using agencies, in civvie work, and they protect their interests very carefully, using tight contracts.  OK, contracts dont work in hookering, but you can expect agencies to protect their interests carefully.

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but if some people in this industry think you are taking the p1ss, they may react nastily to you or the girl...

Which is why i ensure i keep it between the WG and me.

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If a girl wants you to have her number then what's the problem? No one's making her give it to you.

Spot on, i ask if the WG works Indie at an Incall base, if she says yes then it could be Indie punt on in the future, if not thats the end of the matter. I dont continually badger her about it.

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I visited a parlour in Leicester and saw an Indian WG there I liked a lot.  

 

I've often thought if it's OK to get a number to see a parlour WG privately, is it common?

Don't see why it wouldnt be.We did the same with bands.If we booked through an agent and they were good enough to warent rebooking we'd talk to them and privately book.With the agency fee we'd split the difference.Was good for both parties.We saved money and they made more money.Same applies here.What the lady does in her own time,who else she works for etc is nothing to do with them.

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It definitely happens. That's how I got my (at the time regular girl).

 

I got her number after our second punt at the parlour she worked at and we saw each other in private since then. Financially it was win-win for both of us.

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Let's not overlook that some of the more popular parlours will only allow a girl one day a week, so it's reasonable for them to expect that the girl will also work elsewhere, or independently, or both.

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some punters are clearly in the client base of a parlour and may well report a girl offering her number. or the parlour may do a sting if they suspect this is going on.

come on. if a parlour thinks someone is trying to pull a fast one over them they will seek to protect their interests.

 

and many parlours may make a stipulation that girls may not work for a parlour thats less than (say) 50 miles away.  Why would they spend on advertising a girl is she is also available just down the road?

 

If I owned a parlour, I wouldn't care.  It may seem odd, but then she would not be my employee in the sense of somebody working at both HSBC and Lloyds TSB.  Our hobby is in the black economy, so even if a WG is "sacked" from a parlour, so what?  there are plenty others in big cities like London or Brum she could work at, or rent a flat with her friends or by herself, or become an independent escort.  I think again that it's not a clearcut case, since a parlour cannot go to the Industrial court and say that their employee has been moonlighting.  Even if a WG works a 40 hour week Mon-Fri at a parlour, she may see a client or two on a weekend.  So what?  it's not something they can stop, or even know about.

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I dont do parlours but perhaps if I did I would be complimentary to the lady and ask if she had an awork page. It opens the door so to speak.

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Loads of london escorts seem to book with more than one agency without bring struck off anyone's books, so why a problem with private punting?

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