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As from Midnight last night, Bulgarian and Romanian citizens are free to live and work in the UK with no restrictions. 

 

I have noticed over the last year or so that the number of Romanian girls advertising on sites like Adultwork has been on the increase. I have punted a few of them now and I have to say they have all been very keen to please and most have given exceptional value for money. In fact the best girl I have ever punted is Romanian.

 

The reason for my post is, I am curious to see if the change in rules will have any effect on the number of Romanian escorts? Personally, I hopes it does, as there seems to be a real shortage of girls in my area that I would actually want to visit. To be quite honest, given the choice between a girl from Bucharest or a girl from East Kent, I will currently go for the former every time.

 

I don't want to see British girls loosing business, but, certainly in Kent, I am not impressed with what they are currently offering. Maybe an influx of Eastern European girls will keep the Brits on their toes and if that means I end up getting a better bang for my buck from British girls in the future then I am all for it! 

 

Will the Romanians now do for Escorting what the Poles did for plumbing, and is that really a good thing?

 

 

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Shouldn't make any difference, the only change is that they're now entitled to benefits etc. If a Romanian wanted to come here to work as a prostitute there's nothing that's changed to make that easier.

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I am not sure if there entitled to benefits I think they are looking into putting restrictions in place

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Point is a Romanian who wants to come here and doesn't intend to leech off the system has been able to do so for years. The Romanian wgs have been here for years.

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Point is a Romanian who wants to come here and doesn't intend to leech off the system has been able to do so for years. The Romanian wgs have been here for years.

Exactly this.The only difference is they can now be employed rather than having to be self employed.As for in some way increasing the punting in your area in some way.If there not already there i doubt that will happen.

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Exactly this.The only difference is they can now be employed rather than having to be self employed.As for in some way increasing the punting in your area in some way.If there not already there i doubt that will happen.

 

Indeed. There's one flat near me that has had a steady stream of Romanian girls for the past 18 months or so. If anything, the changes might lead to fewer Romanian girls, since any Romanian woman wanting to move to the UK now has far more options open to them in terms of employment. But the mass flood of Romanians and Bulgarians that was being predicted was just scaremongering by the media and the political parties, who have all become obsessed with immigration. They've been free to work in most of the EU before this year, and to be honest they're probably more likely to go to France, since French and Romanian are both Romance languages (Spain and Italy have been favoured destinations thus far - again, Spanish and Italian are Romance languages).

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Indeed. There's one flat near me that has had a steady stream of Romanian girls for the past 18 months or so. If anything, the changes might lead to fewer Romanian girls, since any Romanian woman wanting to move to the UK now has far more options open to them in terms of employment. But the mass flood of Romanians and Bulgarians that was being predicted was just scaremongering by the media and the political parties, who have all become obsessed with immigration. They've been free to work in most of the EU before this year, and to be honest they're probably more likely to go to France, since French and Romanian are both Romance languages (Spain and Italy have been favoured destinations thus far - again, Spanish and Italian are Romance languages).

 

Reductio ad absurdum, we should all rush to see the new Romanian WGs as soon as they get off their planes so that they won't feel compelled to compromise the British NHS and welfare systems and become a threat to our British way of life for at least three months!

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Indeed. There's one flat near me that has had a steady stream of Romanian girls for the past 18 months or so. If anything, the changes might lead to fewer Romanian girls, since any Romanian woman wanting to move to the UK now has far more options open to them in terms of employment. But the mass flood of Romanians and Bulgarians that was being predicted was just scaremongering by the media and the political parties, who have all become obsessed with immigration. They've been free to work in most of the EU before this year, and to be honest they're probably more likely to go to France, since French and Romanian are both Romance languages (Spain and Italy have been favoured destinations thus far - again, Spanish and Italian are Romance languages).

Yes it was but it was scaremongering based on the planes full of Romanians from a few years back when the restrictions were first lifted and they could first come and work here. I believe some brit journos went over and they were interviewing people waiting to get on the planes asking them if they were coming here on holiday and not a single one of them was, they were all coming here to work.

 

I guess they were just going on the assumption that it would happen again. I don't believe there are going to be huge surges of Romanains, this time its different, as you said, they already have the right to work here albeit with a special permit card, can't remember what its called but I did have to check to make sure every romanian girl had one before I could put her on the books when I ran a place for a little while but the other european girls didn't need to have one. Perhaps its just this, perhaps this permit has been done away with?

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Reductio ad absurdum, we should all rush to see the new Romanian WGs as soon as they get off their planes so that they won't feel compelled to compromise the British NHS and welfare systems and become a threat to our British way of life for at least three months!

 

*Fights urge to point out there is no such thing as a British NHS since all four nations of the UK have their own versions of the NHS*  ;)

 

Yes it was but it was scaremongering based on the planes full of Romanians from a few years back when the restrictions were first lifted and they could first come and work here. I believe some brit journos went over and they were interviewing people waiting to get on the planes asking them if they were coming here on holiday and not a single one of them was, they were all coming here to work.

 

I guess they were just going on the assumption that it would happen again. I don't believe there are going to be huge surges of Romanains, this time its different, as you said, they already have the right to work here albeit with a special permit card, can't remember what its called but I did have to check to make sure every romanian girl had one before I could put her on the books when I ran a place for a little while but the other european girls didn't need to have one. Perhaps its just this, perhaps this permit has been done away with?

 

Aye, they had to get an Accession Worker Card (basically a work permit) in order to work in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands or the UK. It was a transitional control put in place when Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU in 2007, so now that it's lifted, they've got the same free movement as any other EEA country.

 

(The EEA being the European Economic Area, which includes Norway, Liechtenstein and Iceland as well as the EU countries - minus Croatia, who've only just joined the EU - which is why when people moan about wanting the UK to leave the EU to stop immigrants coming in, they're actually not really directing their ire at the right organisation...)

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will be interesting to see if the amount of Romanian strippers and WG's will increase with the restrictions gone.Most of the women will be only able to do low paid exploited jobs any how. So the money is better in the sex industry be it escorting of stripping. ( still possible to make 6 grand a month as a stripper in London ) . If the Romanians all went home tomorrow the Sex industry in the UK would have a serious hole in it. Strange although they are next door and poorer there are relatively few Bulgarian WGs and Strippers. not sure what it is with the Romanian culture that lends itself to the sex industry it seems disproportionately. The oddest thing of all about the Romanian girls is they so often work for their men but not for guys they meet that are not Romanian, the opposite happens and the non Romanian men get rinsed.. I know several Romanian girls personally and its a common story. The Bulgarians seem to love Afro Caribbean men here as boyfriends  but don't seem as ready to feed them like the Romanian girls do with their Romanian men. (yes i am aware of sweeping statements but the basic trend is true in my experience of girls from Bulgaria and Romania)

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Well Romania is the 7th most populous country in the EU (almost 20 million), whereas Bulgaria is only the 16th (about 7.5 million), so law of averages says there should be more Romanian SWs than Bulgarian ones. There may also be Moldavians pretending to be Romanian (although I suspect it's more likely to be the other way around).

But I suspect the laws in their own countries play a big part too. Sex work is illegal in Romania, whereas it's legal in Bulgaria. I know a Romanian sex worker who plied her trade in Greece instead, and a Romanian web cam girl who had been an escort, but only outside Romania. So there's more onus to emigrate for a Romanian who wants to sell sex than for a Bulgarian.

Bulgarian sex workers are maybe more likely to be controlled by a pimp as well - the Bulgarian Mafia is infamous, but nobody ever speaks of a Romanian Mafia... I suspect the first two reasons are adequate enough explanations though.

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Well Romania is the 7th most populous country in the EU (almost 20 million), whereas Bulgaria is only the 16th (about 7.5 million), so law of averages says there should be more Romanian SWs than Bulgarian ones. There may also be Moldavians pretending to be Romanian (although I suspect it's more likely to be the other way around).

But I suspect the laws in their own countries play a big part too. Sex work is illegal in Romania, whereas it's legal in Bulgaria. I know a Romanian sex worker who plied her trade in Greece instead, and a Romanian web cam girl who had been an escort, but only outside Romania. So there's more onus to emigrate for a Romanian who wants to sell sex than for a Bulgarian.

Bulgarian sex workers are maybe more likely to be controlled by a pimp as well - the Bulgarian Mafia is infamous, but nobody ever speaks of a Romanian Mafia... I suspect the first two reasons are adequate enough explanations though.

 

Interesting analysis.  Can you make any general comparisons of the women in each of the three countries, in terms of appearance, underlying attitudes toward p4p sex and sexual performance?  As you point out, there are far more Romanians than the numbers of the other two countries combined but, judging from the photos on AW (which I suspect tend to be pretty accurate in the case of declared Romanians), they appear to be an inordinately beautiful lot.  Thais and ebonies top my list in terms of performance but if the Romanians can match them in this regard, their full membership in the EU and freedom to work wherever they like is good news for all punters.

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Indeed. There's one flat near me that has had a steady stream of Romanian girls for the past 18 months or so. If anything, the changes might lead to fewer Romanian girls, since any Romanian woman wanting to move to the UK now has far more options open to them in terms of employment. But the mass flood of Romanians and Bulgarians that was being predicted was just scaremongering by the media and the political parties, who have all become obsessed with immigration. They've been free to work in most of the EU before this year, and to be honest they're probably more likely to go to France, since French and Romanian are both Romance languages (Spain and Italy have been favoured destinations thus far - again, Spanish and Italian are Romance languages).

so romanian whores can now apply to fill orders in the amazon warehouse for 6 quid an hour - they're really going to prefer that to earning £200 a day servicing shy brits and frustrated husbands

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I have spent a lot of time in Romania, and had a Romanian gf.  I also speak a little Romanian and understand it as I learnt Latin and Spanish. They combine the best of the Latin background and the Slav influence which has shaped their country and culutre to such an extent.  Lovely people and a lot of them are very good looking, intelligent, and well-educated, like most East Europeans.   I am talking about ethnic Romanians, not the much maligned Roma,  two very different things. So an increase in Romanian WGs can only be a good thing,  although there are risks that they are pimped, or Roma, which latter I would not touch with the proverbial bargepole.

 

"There may also be Moldavians pretending to be Romanian (although I suspect it's more likely to be the other way around)."

Why would it be the other way round?  Moldova is not part of the EU, they therefore don't have the automatic right to work in the EU, although they are ethinc Romanians and some are entitled to Romanian nationality.

 

I was shot down in another thread for saying that many Bulgarian women are ugly.  Shoot me down again. They are. I probably speak with more knowledge than many since I worked in Bulgaria too, and saw a lot of the country and its people.  Interesting, many pleasant people,  I did meet a couple of stunning girls, but the average standard is low. The food is generally poor too. 

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I am not sure about Bulgarians girls. Having been there many times and having had several girlfriends and lovers from there they certainly have good bodies as a trend.  certainly up till a couple of years ago when they were on Grannies organic diet as they could not afford precessed food in the quantities the fatter English girls. They seem to have gotten bustier since i first started going, Noticed by Bulgarian girls who had been away from the country for some years and gone back. I was in Sofia last year though and I noticed that there were no pretty girls walking the streets. I mentioned it to a girl I was seeing and she agreed, It was as if the pretty girls had gone after 21 say to find a better life. Canada Germany Uk Spain etc. I certainly have met over the years some fantastic looking Bulgy girls and the country consistently ranks in the top 10 lists for pretty girls, Brazil and Sweden coming top, but it might be true the list are out of date for BG as many of the pretty ones bugger off after college.

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I was in Sofia last year though and I noticed that there were no pretty girls walking the streets. I mentioned it to a girl I was seeing and she agreed, It was as if the pretty girls had gone after 21 say to find a better life.

I have wondered before when in a strip club full of stunning looking Latvians, Estonians, etc. if they are all as attractive, or just the ones that get out of the country!

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Think it's common all over Eastern Europe. A girl who i know who came from BG where she was making £60 per week (40-50 hours)full time now makes between £600 and £1500 a week as a  stripper. (3/4 nights) Not surprising  that some of the most attractive girls look to better their lives elsewhere. Same in Russia its not the garden of Beautiful girl Eden that some claim. In Latvia they are 8% short of men so a girl gotta get out, same in many towns in Russia where sometimes it 14 women for every man. I spoke to a Russian girl in London who said she had to be the2nd or 3rd lover of a married man in her Siberian city, In London  she was overwhelmed by the attention she got. (22 and very pretty) so the ones who think by looks etc they have a better chance of a better life they go west.

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so romanian whores can now apply to fill orders in the amazon warehouse for 6 quid an hour - they're really going to prefer that to earning £200 a day servicing shy brits and frustrated husbands

 

Aye, but you're making two assumptions there. The first is that all Romanian escorts are happy in their job, and the second is that their only alternative is a minimum wage job. The one I saw a few times in that flat I mentioned made it clear she was working for a pimp, and wasn't particularly happy with him. She has a degree in hospitality or something and had worked in a hotel in Greece before (not as a cleaner, I should add), so there's an example of a girl who might go "fuck it, I can get a 'normal' job here now."

 

But to be honest, I was really referring to the fact that as some Romanian girls go home, there might not be such a steady stream of girls to replace them. I mean, it stands to reason that at least some of the Romanian girls who have come over here have only become escorts because it's the only way they could get a job in the UK. But yeah, equally it could lead to more girls coming over, finding out the UK jobs market is just as bad as Romania, and having to become an escort instead. That's why I just said "might" rather than "will" or even "probably"!

 

 

I have spent a lot of time in Romania, and had a Romanian gf.  I also speak a little Romanian and understand it as I learnt Latin and Spanish. They combine the best of the Latin background and the Slav influence which has shaped their country and culutre to such an extent.  Lovely people and a lot of them are very good looking, intelligent, and well-educated, like most East Europeans.   I am talking about ethnic Romanians, not the much maligned Roma,  two very different things. So an increase in Romanian WGs can only be a good thing,  although there are risks that they are pimped, or Roma, which latter I would not touch with the proverbial bargepole.

 

"There may also be Moldavians pretending to be Romanian (although I suspect it's more likely to be the other way around)."

Why would it be the other way round?  Moldova is not part of the EU, they therefore don't have the automatic right to work in the EU, although they are ethinc Romanians and some are entitled to Romanian nationality.

 

Bulgaria actually has a slightly bigger percentage of Roma people than Romania, so it's perhaps Bulgarians that people should be keeping more of an eye out for if they want to avoid Roma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people)

 

Anyway, the reason I say it might be more likely for Romanians to pretend to be Moldavian than vice versa is because they might think there's less stigma attached to Moldavians than Romanians. Same reason a lot of Albanians pretend to be Italian. There's also the fact that a lot of EE girls like to say they're from a different country from the one they're really from, so law of averages says you're more likely to find a Romanian pretending to be Moldavian than a Moldavian pretending to be Romanian. But by "pretend", I simply mean on their profiles etc, not in terms of trying to sneak into the country under false pretences.

 

Having said that, you're quite right that some have a right to getting Romanian nationality, so there could be Romanian citizens who really ARE Moldavian. I believe the process has been made easier by Romania too, which might explain why "Moldavian" suddenly started appearing in the "nationality" field of girls' profiles much more regularly last year.

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There are so many beautiful Romanian girls on AW that I'd love to see but, a lot of them have that warning on their profile that they may not be genuine!

So hard to tell who's genuine which is a shame because, I have seen so many I'd love to have a punt with but, just can't decide if I'll have a good time or be ripped off.

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There are so many beautiful Romanian girls on AW that I'd love to see but, a lot of them have that warning on their profile that they may not be genuine!

So hard to tell who's genuine which is a shame because, I have seen so many I'd love to have a punt with but, just can't decide if I'll have a good time or be ripped off.

 

I'm not actually sure that there IS any correlation between those who are 'verified' and those who might rip you off.  I have seen a few (non-Romanian) girls in the former category who were fine and a few who were 'verified' but were far from satisfactory, including several where I walked without even removing my clothing or paying.  I believe that AW collects a fee from the girls before verifying them (Strawberry probably will correct me on this) and assume that this is just another nice little earner.  I don't mind spending on two or three of AW's paid services but verification is one I ignore routinely.

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I'm not actually sure that there IS any correlation between those who are 'verified' and those who might rip you off.  I have seen a few (non-Romanian) girls in the former category who were fine and a few who were 'verified' but were far from satisfactory, including several where I walked without even removing my clothing or paying.  I believe that AW collects a fee from the girls before verifying them (Strawberry probably will correct me on this) and assume that this is just another nice little earner.  I don't mind spending on two or three of AW's paid services but verification is one I ignore routinely.

.Dont know about paying,but they do get them to jump through some hoops.Pics with their passports,pics holding a newspaper,soppy signs with their aw number etc.Even if they get verified it doesnt mean anything as the current account holder may not be the one who originally got verified.

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.Dont know about paying,but they do get them to jump through some hoops.Pics with their passports,pics holding a newspaper,soppy signs with their aw number etc.Even if they get verified it doesnt mean anything as the current account holder may not be the one who originally got verified.

I saw one of those being photograped under one of the London Bridges. I think it was fake though. There was a model holding up an Adultwork ref no sign with a Pro looking photographer -- maybe a TheInvisibleMenProject type vicarious-suffering-porn project.

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.Dont know about paying,but they do get them to jump through some hoops.Pics with their passports,pics holding a newspaper,soppy signs with their aw number etc.Even if they get verified it doesnt mean anything as the current account holder may not be the one who originally got verified.

 

Is that a fact - that they actually require passport details and photo?  In any case, you can only take AW's word for their authenticity since the SP is not required to show her actual verification photo on their profile.  As I say, I don't have any way of knowing and therefore I tend to be skeptical and place little emphasis on this factor.  I do think that AW has cleaned up its act over recent years.  They have built a good enough mousetrap that they don't want to risk losing or even devaluing it. 

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Is that a fact - that they actually require passport details and photo?  In any case, you can only take AW's word for their authenticity since the SP is not required to show her actual verification photo on their profile.  As I say, I don't have any way of knowing and therefore I tend to be skeptical and place little emphasis on this factor.  I do think that AW has cleaned up its act over recent years.  They have built a good enough mousetrap that they don't want to risk losing or even devaluing it. 

You honestly havent seen any of the pictures?With their passports,holding them open with the details visible.Stood there holding a hand written sign with the date and their aw number etc?On another forum theyve even been using them as their avatars.

It doesnt mean that much because if you look about youll see accounts getting handed about as some ladies go home and others take their place.

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You honestly havent seen any of the pictures?With their passports,holding them open with the details visible.Stood there holding a hand written sign with the date and their aw number etc?On another forum theyve even been using them as their avatars.

It doesnt mean that much because if you look about youll see accounts getting handed about as some ladies go home and others take their place.

 

Yes, I have seen a number verification photos on AW, but most of them are before AW left the option with the WG as to whether to show or hide the photo - you're supposed to trust AW's judgement/word if the photo is hidden.  And, as you say, you often find a different name on the profile title but a different name within the text in the profile.  I just don't put much credence in their procedure whatsoever.

 

Apropos of this thread topic (though it really is off-topic), here is an amusing article about a Romanian scam in Pattaya:

 

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/695231-romanian-bank-card-fraudsters-arrested-in-pattaya/?utm_source=newsletter-20140109-0821&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

 

Now you know what the enemy looks like.

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