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Amnesty International Comes Out In Support Of Sex Workers' Rights

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Amnesty International after much research has at last come out in favour of sex worker's rights! Guess what?

It faces abuse from the usual suspects!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545003/Amnesty-calls-legal-prostitution-Charity-says-laws-ban-people-buying-selling-sex-breach-human-rights.html

A renegade section in Scotland came out in support of Rhoda Grant and her efforts to criminalise punters, but was told off by Uk HQ!

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I use to make donations towards Amnesty UK and stopped when they supported the 2009 bill. I don't think I will be changing my mind in a hurry.

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Amnesty Ireland are sitting on the fence, apparently a global decision is due, I wish they'd hurry up, Irish sex workers 

are suffering in the interim. 

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Amnesty Ireland are sitting on the fence, apparently a global decision is due, I wish they'd hurry up, Irish sex workers 

are suffering in the interim. 

They fight for everyone else's bloody rights…they need to get a giddy up because if the dont support then what are we to them…less than human. We are humans who have rights…really a no brainer 

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They fight for everyone else's bloody rights…they need to get a giddy up because if the dont support then what are we to them…less than human. We are humans who have rights…really a no brainer 

The danger is they may adopt the Swedish model. Protect sex workers by criminalising the purchaser.

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This has kicked up quite the fierce debate.

 

https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/questionsforamnesty

 

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QuestionsForAmnesty&src=hash

 

The antis are out in full force throwing around their insults and accusing Amnesty donators of supporting rape. And I saw a disturbing pic of male dolls lining up to have sex with a naked barbie tied to a stump I need to try and get out of my head. The antis will sleep well tonight.

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Been thinking about this overnight, and it seems to me that this raises all sorts of issues about societal views of sexuality. ChloeKisses mentioned sex workers' rights (and obviously no-one here is going to take issue with that), but what about the rights of a huge variety of clients, many of whom for one reason or other are marginalised? I am talking about the wounded, the injured, the disabled, the ones too psychologically or emotionally damaged or fragile who regard themselves unfit for human consumption, and for whom sex workers are a lifeline. When you look at it like that, it starts looking like a diversity issue. Criminalising the client will effectively be saying to a whole section of the male population that unless you can get sex through socially acceptable channels you will be punished. The way I am framing it in the letter to my MP and to Amnesty (of which I am a member) I am writing in my head is that effectively we are telling the young man who we put in harm's way in Afghanistan and who has come back with his mind and body broken and his marriage in shreds is that he is going to go to jail if he pays for sex. I would love to get The Sun on a campaign for sex rights for Our Boys (Rookie hero jailed for buying nookie, etc ) but have to recognise that for the fantasy it is!

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It would be good that all those with twitter accounts supported Amnesty proposed decriminalisation stance.  It basically decriminalises sex work, and that includes managers and brothels.  They antis are out there attacking good people and accusing  Amnesty of being run by punters and pimps.  The main argument the antis have is that one guy back in 2008 (Douglas Fox) proposed at his local Amnesty branch that sex work was decriminalised.  To believe that the main board of Amnesty would take this one proposal from a 'sex worker whose partner who runs a small escort agency' is absolutely incredulous to believe.  He has now been accused of running the sex industry in the North East.  His partner has 7 female escorts on the escort website.  Doesn't sound big to me.

 

Anyway what ever you feel of Douglas, Amnesty should be supported in going forward with a decision on decriminalisation all sex work as in the New Zealand model. Get onto twitter support @AmnestyUK and use the hash tag #questionsforamnesty

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A tweet from @skyaballoon83;


 


"SW rights activists: "Here's some evidence, argument". Radfems: "Here's a picture of a COCK. LOL!""


 


 


He/she makes a good point. The antis have replaced the candle in Amnesty's logo with a penis (like something a little child would do) and are posting it over and over.


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Good luck with ever getting a generally tolerant view to sex in exchange for money. To me the biggest factor that people don't address is that women, by and large, do not want relatively affordable paid for sex because it reduces their own pussy-pass leverage and gives men OPTIONS. Anybody who thinks that women don't take advantage of mens innately stronger sex drives is deluded. Women have always used the sex "tap" being turned off as a way to get what they want. All we see in the media is how "up for it" women are, I'd love to see a Matrix-like analysis of the sexual world Im guessing loads of men are getting f all off their wives. Many women in private probably confess to losing interest as they get older, its just un-PC to say it. A mate of mine has been saying his Mrs isn't interested any more, fair play to him he's made a stand on it and said he'd never have got married in the first place if it meant the sexless hell it has become, I'm guessing he's not alone. Thing is any man who brings this up is likely to get called a sexist pig, or blamed for his own sexual inadequacies (your not getting any cos your shit in bed etc). Best to STFU and wank to porn lol.

 

The media makes it seem everybodys shagging my instincts are that the reality is far different. Why else would religion have deemed a womans duty to offer sex to men virtually on tap? That, by law, she was expected to give out. Theres no way on earth I'm investing time and effort in a woman if she's not giving out, they can shove their chivalry up their arse lol.

 

If women had the same attitude as macaque female monkeys the world would be a safer and saner place lol. Sex "therapists" on the NHS might be an idea hahahahaha. Worker productivity would probably drop but well-being charts would go thru the roof ;)

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It would be good that all those with twitter accounts supported Amnesty proposed decriminalisation stance.  It basically decriminalises sex work, and that includes managers and brothels.  They antis are out there attacking good people and accusing  Amnesty of being run by punters and pimps.  The main argument the antis have is that one guy back in 2008 (Douglas Fox) proposed at his local Amnesty branch that sex work was decriminalised.  To believe that the main board of Amnesty would take this one proposal from a 'sex worker whose partner who runs a small escort agency' is absolutely incredulous to believe.  He has now been accused of running the sex industry in the North East.  His partner has 7 female escorts on the escort website.  Doesn't sound big to me.

 

Anyway what ever you feel of Douglas, Amnesty should be supported in going forward with a decision on decriminalisation all sex work as in the New Zealand model. Get onto twitter support @AmnestyUK and use the hash tag #questionsforamnesty

They are calling him a pimp now, frankly if he is well enough i think he should get his solicitors involved

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It's illegal to be a pimp in all UK jurisdictions. If they are so sure he's a "pimp" then instead of name calling on the internet why don't they go and present their evidence to the police.

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@_anima_i is encouraging people to "Storm ur local amnesty offices + make sure they understand u don't agree.". Isn't encouraging rioting and intimidation illegal?

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img703/7771/6h35.png

Whatever made you think these people were sane enough to stage their protests properly. They advocate brute force, they are trying to FORCE amnesty to change their public views…usual bullying tactics. 

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Whatever made you think these people were sane enough to stage their protests properly. They advocate brute force, they are trying to FORCE amnesty to change their public views…usual bullying tactics. 

 

If @_anima is advocating that type of behaviour then their ethics are on a par with the Taliban :rolleyes:

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I've joined AI.

 

The antis will always attract more voices.

 

Most prostitutes and their customers do not wish anyone any harm, but cannot speak out for fear of being outed. Many on the anti side may visit prostitutes themselves but are not able to say so.

 

For this reason the full story can never be heard.

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Well done Strawberry. I have been a member of Amnesty for many years and I await with interest the publication of their report. I shall undoubtedly be writing a letter of support when it appears

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I've joined AI.

 

The antis will always attract more voices.

 

Most prostitutes and their customers do not wish anyone any harm, but cannot speak out for fear of being outed. Many on the anti side may visit prostitutes themselves but are not able to say so.

 

For this reason the full story can never be heard.

I have rejoined. I was a member as a teen in the 80's. You can track your AI journey with an activity footprint. 

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I saw my arse over Amnesty's views on a certain foreign adventure which started in 2001 ( effectively saying that ISAF should not leave for many more years ) and cancelled my direct debit this time last year. It was a pity, because they have some good core values.

 

Based on this progression on Amnesty's own web-site , they have become more alarmist than tolerant over the last 6 years:

2008 : 'recognising the basic principle of difference between coerced and non-coerced sex workers'

to

2012: 'the particular and inextricable relationship between prostitution and trafficking for sexual exploitation has not been highlighted sufficiently this should be stressed and prioritised in reviewing policy'

 

That 2012 comment is a long way off the beam of level-headedness I'd like to see. Operation Pentameter showed that there was no particular or inextricable relationship. The link is clearly not inextricable. The 'principle of difference' had been abandoned by the 2012 AGM it seems.

 

If the 2014 AGM endorses the principle in SlickWilly's original article that:  'Amnesty International is opposed to the criminalisation or punishment of activities related to the buying or selling of consensual sex between adults.', then I'll rejoin in a flash. Not yet though.

 

Don't get me wrong, I've no doubt sex trafficking exists and we should always be vigilant and report concerns to Crimestoppers, Redline or whoever is appropriate. It's just that on recent form Amnesty members at their AGMs have shown a slight prohibitionist tendency which is in contrast to the ( presumable ) academics who drew up the latest policy document for their members' consideration at the next AGM ( April I believe ).

Edited by bongo

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Edinburgh University Students Union voted last night to advocate decriminalisation of sex work and to support it's own students who are sex workers.

 

Rhodda Grant wanted to come along to the meeting, but not being a student at the uni wasn't allowed in.

 

http://www.journal-online.co.uk/article/11358-eusa_passes_motion_support_sex_workers

 

And thank goodness for that.

 

I know more about space travel than RG knows about sex work. 

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