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Reasons To Be Cheerful...

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There's a lot of media attention being given at the moment to the agenda promoted by the antis, who insist that all aspects of punting are evil, degrading and a blot on society that must be stamped out.

 

To counter this, I've been thinking of the positive things about punting and porn - things that the antis want to tell us are wrong. Here's my notes so far, below; please add any that you may think of!

 

Good things about punting & porn

  • it makes me happy! After an enjoyable punt, I feel warm, relaxed and satisfied, at peace with the world and full of the joys of human existence.
     
  • it pays well. The WG gets paid good money to spend as she sees fit, whether that's feeding her children or blowing it on personal luxuries.
     
  •  the WG is empowered, earning her own income, making her own hours and generally managing her own affairs. (While this applies most of all to independents, it's also true of agency and parlour workers to a large extent.)
     
  • it helps to break down social barriers. Both sides of the transaction mix with people they may not otherwise meet and the restrictions on sexual interaction being confined to married couples are diminished. (Some may see this latter point as a negative thing but I don't.)
     
  • it increases knowledge of human sexuality. Punters and WGs are likely to have a broader experience of human sexuality than those with more limited experience of sexual activity, leading to greater understanding and tolerance of others.
     
  • it provides sexual experience for those who may find it difficult or impossible to engage in sexual activity otherwise, e.g. disabled people.

As regards porn, I've learned more about female sexuality (and anatomy!) from watching internet porn than I ever did in school or in my earlier life, which was not short of sexual experiences. I watch porn for personal enjoyment and entertainment. It's cost-effective and private, harming no-one.
 

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Ah, Mr Dury.....now there was a proper fella!

 

From my less lyrical bent, later next week I will be spending two hours with a friendly, beautiful woman I have met many times before, although (due in the main to my personal circumstances) not for five or six years. I will be paying a good price for a service that I know she delivers extremely well and has chosen to deliver for a long time.  I have lived with a pleasant and expectant feeling since arranging the meeting 10 days ago.

 

I can’t see the down side, so cheerful is me!

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There's a lot of media attention being given at the moment to the agenda promoted by the antis, who insist that all aspects of punting are evil, degrading and a blot on society that must be stamped out.

 

To counter this, I've been thinking of the positive things about punting and porn - things that the antis want to tell us are wrong. Here's my notes so far, below; please add any that you may think of!

 

Good things about punting & porn

  • it makes me happy! After an enjoyable punt, I feel warm, relaxed and satisfied, at peace with the world and full of the joys of human existence.

     

  • it pays well. The WG gets paid good money to spend as she sees fit, whether that's feeding her children or blowing it on personal luxuries.

     

  •  the WG is empowered, earning her own income, making her own hours and generally managing her own affairs. (While this applies most of all to independents, it's also true of agency and parlour workers to a large extent.)

     

  • it helps to break down social barriers. Both sides of the transaction mix with people they may not otherwise meet and the restrictions on sexual interaction being confined to married couples are diminished. (Some may see this latter point as a negative thing but I don't.)

     

  • it increases knowledge of human sexuality. Punters and WGs are likely to have a broader experience of human sexuality than those with more limited experience of sexual activity, leading to greater understanding and tolerance of others.

     

  • it provides sexual experience for those who may find it difficult or impossible to engage in sexual activity otherwise, e.g. disabled people.

As regards porn, I've learned more about female sexuality (and anatomy!) from watching internet porn than I ever did in school or in my earlier life, which was not short of sexual experiences. I watch porn for personal enjoyment and entertainment. It's cost-effective and private, harming no-one.

 

 

 

 

As far as the Anti's are concerned their points are that its all good for the guy but the girl is not so happy:

 

So Point 1 plays right into their hands, of course your happy you just fucked some poor defenceless girl for money.

 

Point 2. Does it pay well? how do you know? have you ever sat and estimated the value and put a price on your sexuality, your body, your mind, and soul, then bartered it off to punters at a set price per hour?

 

Point 3. She could be just as empowered by being a hairdresser, or a nail technician, self employment doesn't mean empowerment, and being empowered, also have its flip side of being degraded.

 

Point 4. a comercial transaction doesn't break down the barriers, personal choice does. 

So social economics play more of a part than social structure.

 

Any WG will tell you that, Half of their clients they wouldn't touch if they met them in a pub, but because they need or want the money, they will interact with that person.

 

Point 5 WG's generally have a higher tolerance and understanding of sexual awareness, however not every punter does. nor do they care to.

 

Point 6 That depends on the WG Prejudice towards disabled. Just as some won't see black guys, or asian guys... Some girls can't stomach disabled gents.

 

 

 

I totally understand and I agree with you Max, being that I am in the industry of my own free will and it doesn't bother me...

 

But the above highlights the Anti Agenda and allows for a balanced view.

 

Not all or even half of the girls in this industry share your view... but economical shifts and very little in the way of real time jobs, even for the privileged, are causing a lot to turn to something they would never have even contemplated, 10 years ago, or even 5yrs ago.

 

Now because of the economy, every girl is turning tricks.

 

Even the reports following the last 5 years for newbies, has been quite damning.

 

And while for the punter Fresh Meat may be exciting, it is not always so for the girls, and can actually cause more harm than good in the industry as a whole.

 

Love your post though :)

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Dear Autumn,

I think that you have touched upon some issues that I find important, in my case.

I far prefer to book ladies directly. I choose ladies who appear to be intelligent, healthy and fully in control of their own destinies. The ladies know who I am and have every opportunity to decline the booking, if it suits their preference.

Even on the three occasions I booked at a parlour, it was with Adele and Sadie. Two more independent-minded ladies would be hard to find.

C

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As regards porn, I've learned more about female sexuality (and anatomy!) from watching internet porn than I ever did in school or in my earlier life, which was not short of sexual experiences.

 

Er... You have learned about female anatomy, not sexuality.  Porn is about (boring) male sexuality, not female sexuality. The amount of men that think that women enjoy practices that are widespread in porn is disconcerting.

 

I have watched porn aimed at women and it was different.  But I think that it is still porn, and far away from the real thing.  Women may beg to differ.

 

I watch porn for personal enjoyment and entertainment. It's cost-effective and private, harming no-one.

 

 

Harming no one other than yourself, you mean.

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Dear Autumn,

I think that you have touched upon some issues that I find important, in my case.

I far prefer to book ladies directly. I choose ladies who appear to be intelligent, healthy and fully in control of their own destinies. The ladies know who I am and have every opportunity to decline the booking, if it suits their preference.

Even on the three occasions I booked at a parlour, it was with Adele and Sadie. Two more independent-minded ladies would be hard to find.

C

 

 

And that of course is the varied and wonderful world of the sex industry.

 

But truly how do you know? No disrespect to either of the ladies... As I can't speak for them

 

 

I can say from personal experience...

 

When I first started no there was a lot that I truly didn't understand, and a lot that I had to learn and a lot that I hated.

 

To give you a perspective...

 

I remember once about 4/5 years ago, working from Madam Becky's under Linzi D in MK

 

it was 7:45 and a gent came in... now this gent, had a feeding tube in his stomach, dressed in a tracksuit that was not the cleanest, walked with a slight limp, and had a trachaotomy...

 

In short he was rather in my mind disabled...

 

Now None of the girls on shift wanted to see him, myself included...

 

Obviously the slightly off-putting clothes, plus the disability to put it frankly... I really and truthfully didn't want to...

 

But all the others refused, and Linzi gave me that puppy dog look she has, and said Please Tamz, I sighed, took a deep breath and  said "oh ok".

 

I think I also added, but next time someone else takes one for the team...

 

I will add to this point I hadn't see anyone with anything like this type of disability.

 

 

Now:

 

I didn't really want to do it, I really would rather have not, and to be honest, his dress, and disability did nothing for me, and if I'm honest I think I had had 1 other client that day and honestly based it on ok I kinda need the extra £40.

 

 

So I went in and saw him...

 

What I felt, when I left that room however, was a very deep sense of shame and disgust with myself, ( And not for the reasons people will assume.)

 

Because he had some dirty clothes I had automatically made an assumption, about the man that the hygiene wouldn't be good either, and that I was about to "grin and bare it" for the sake of the £40.

 

However The Gentleman ( I I will use this term to the fullest here) was exceptional.

 

Ok it took a little longer for him to speak, and the tube in his stomach/chest area really didn't interfere.

 

I asked what he wanted, and when he said DFK, GFE, OWO, I must admit my heart hit my stomach.

 

 

I had assumed he would be dirty and unhygienic, because of stories I had listened to from both society and girls I had worked with, saying that the care disabled people got wasn't always the best ( you know with ones where care workers have left people sat in their own urine and faeces for days.)

 

I got the shock of my life, this gentleman actually taught me a valuable lesson that I should have learned and had "spouted" the moral rights of loads of times.

 

 

This Gentleman was Immaculate, and under the tracksuit, and long johns and the boxers, ( the long johns and boxers smelled of bounce tumble dryer sheets btw) His cock was immaculate, clean and his kissing was gentle and tender.

 

and I actually ended up having a great time, and made a point of making sure I gave him everything he asked for, and then some.

 

He did come back and see me, and every time I heard his name mentioned on my appointment list, I actually smiled and looked forward to the booking.

 

 

And the reason I felt disgusted  and ashamed of myself was because I assumed a whole lot of nasty stuff about a perfect gentleman, when I should have known better.

 

 

BTW just as a side note, I have never made the same mistake again, and actually rather enjoy my disabled customers more thanks to that experience.

 

 

The point is, I initially shoved down my revulsion for the sake of £40 and not only got the shock of my life and a valuable lesson to take away ( as well as the £40)

 

Can you say having spoken to me I am not an independent minded lady?

Even when I first joined this board, most guys would have said the same about me...

 

This was my point... You truly will never know because it's unlikely ( unless you date that particular WG)  that she will ever tell you what she truly thinks of you and your £40/ £60/ £80/ £100 for those 30 mins.

 

I'm just glad that I learned that lesson as it made me look at my clients as People rather than just cocks with cash, and oddly enough that was 3/4 years in the job.

 

 

As they say money talks... and everyone has a price.

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Back to the topic; it has stopped raining; I am in good health; I can afford to punt as much as I wish to; I know where my next meal is coming from: the revenue have just sent me a refund;

 

That is 5 reasons for now and I bet I could find several more tomorrow.

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Apart from healthy friends family and punters I managed to not get banned from the decent forum, reason enough to be cheerful lol x

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TBH I don't agree with much on that list; all rather one-eyed to me but I lack the will to dissect the platitudes. Still, I have reason to be cheerful. I've finally met a girl I really rather like.

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Great story Ms Temptation. Well done. Thanks for sharing.

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Er... You have learned about female anatomy, not sexuality.  Porn is about (boring) male sexuality, not female sexuality. The amount of men that think that women enjoy practices that are widespread in porn is disconcerting.

 

I have watched porn aimed at women and it was different.  But I think that it is still porn, and far away from the real thing.  Women may beg to differ.

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Harming no one other than yourself, you mean.

 

No, I have learned some things about female sexuality and also, as I said, some things about female anatomy. For example, I enjoy watching lesbian porn - no men involved - and the whole dynamic is generally different from the more mainstream M-F encounters. It reveals lots about female sexuality.

As far as the anatomy comment goes, I meant that half-jokingly: "OMG, who would have thought she could get something that size up there in that position!" or "I would never have guessed she could squirt that much that far!" etc.

 

You say: "Porn is about (boring) male sexuality, not female sexuality." Really? And what evidence do you have for such a sweeping generalisation? A lot of it may be but certainly not all - you should broaden your horizons!

 

As for harming no-one but myself - well, that may be your view, it isn't mine. As far as I'm concerned, it isn't harming me or anyone else.

 

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TBH I don't agree with much on that list; all rather one-eyed to me but I lack the will to dissect the platitudes. Still, I have reason to be cheerful. I've finally met a girl I really rather like.

 

I'm sorry that you don't want to dissect my platitudes :cool: - I've found your contributions on Pnet some of the more thoughful and interesting ones over the years! Glad that you've found True Happiness!

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I totally understand and I agree with you Max, being that I am in the industry of my own free will and it doesn't bother me...

 

But the above highlights the Anti Agenda and allows for a balanced view.

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Not all or even half of the girls in this industry share your view... ..

 

Love your post though :)

 

Thanks, Autumn - I think! :mellow: I appreciate you playing devil's advocate!

I put up the list in order to stimulate some responses - I didn't intend it to be an authoritative, once-and-for-all statement. We hear so much from the anti's about how evil punting is and how all punters are nasty, twisted, perverted, abusive, dirty-raincoated, knuckle-dragging Neanderthals, so I started thinking: "Well, why do I do it then?" and decided to list some of the good things.

Nothing is ever 100% good or bad and it's always possible to cherry-pick examples that fit a particular view. I'm just trying to provide a counter to the propaganda that's peddled by the antis, to show that there is a positive side to the business.

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Thanks, Autumn - I think! :mellow: I appreciate you playing devil's advocate!

I put up the list in order to stimulate some responses - I didn't intend it to be an authoritative, once-and-for-all statement. We hear so much from the anti's about how evil punting is and how all punters are nasty, twisted, perverted, abusive, dirty-raincoated, knuckle-dragging Neanderthals, so I started thinking: "Well, why do I do it then?" and decided to list some of the good things.

Nothing is ever 100% good or bad and it's always possible to cherry-pick examples that fit a particular view. I'm just trying to provide a counter to the propaganda that's peddled by the antis, to show that there is a positive side to the business.

Yes but the antis are the very people who have no contact with punters and therefore are the last people who would even know. Them making comments about punters is like me making comments about astronauts, i know what they do but thats as far as it goes. 

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