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Punting Vs Dating

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It may have been discussed here couple of times I just wasn't able to find it....

I would like to discuss about pro and contra of punting vs extramarital affairs.

1. Risk. I think there is much higher risk with dating as we want (and have) to maintain a relationship. You can get caught easier as higher number of sms emails, etc. Health? I don't know.

2. Price. These days you do it online. You pay membership fees here and there otherwise you won't find a willing woman. Lot of websites lie. Fake profiles, etc. Scammers. You go out for dinner with the woman. You end up paying much more than punting.

3. Experience. This is the tricky part. I've been visited couple of WGs (really just couple. 5 or 6)

and it is never been as satisfying as with a woman I chatted before. Maybe it's just me or I am not experienced enough but always feel that awkward emptyness if I have sex with a woman I've just met.

I am really curious about your opinion.

And of course if WGs can add something to it from their experience that welcomed too.

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As far as I can see it, there is no correlation between the two which is why men punt :)

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You have posed an interesting question but, if you don't mind me saying, you could have organised your pros & cons of punting vs affairs in a more logical way.  

I was thinking of a table but I don't know how to do one on here.

Maybe:

1.Risk

   Punting: being spotted going in/out of brothels; phone messages/calls, explaining spending .......

   Affair:    

 

2.Price

   Punting:

   Affair:

 

3.Experience

   Punting:

   Affair:

 

On the subject of not chatting with the wg you're with, what's preventing you from taking your time and having a chat while you're making love to her?  It's up to you how you spend your time with her.  Most escorts have clients who don't want sex at all; they simply enjoy the lady's company. 

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As far as I can see it, there is no correlation between the two which is why men punt :)

It is only partially true. Men want everything but if there is a lazy way, they take the chance.

There is one more thing for punting. No complications.

Like ordering the dinner in a restaurant. I would rather have girlfriends if it would be easier.

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You have posed an interesting question but, if you don't mind me saying, you could have organised your pros & cons of punting vs affairs in a more logical way.  

I was thinking of a table but I don't know how to do one on here.

Maybe:

1.Risk

   Punting: being spotted going in/out of brothels; phone messages/calls, explaining spending .......

   Affair:    

 

2.Price

   Punting:

   Affair:

 

3.Experience

   Punting:

   Affair:

 

On the subject of not chatting with the wg you're with, what's preventing you from taking your time and having a chat while you're making love to her?  It's up to you how you spend your time with her.  Most escorts have clients who don't want sex at all; they simply enjoy the lady's company.

You are right. I could have organised better. :-)

Of course I can chat with a WG. But there is always a fair distance between the punter and wg.

I can have a meaningless conversion just not to be silent.

Btw. It is quite highly priced conversion as you pay for the time and not for the sex acts you are practicing.

What I meant was I only get her body but usually nothing from the woman inside.

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My view:

 

PUNTING RISK: Almost none if you're even vaguely sensible. The biggest risk is your phone but honestly, unless you have a snooping, suspicious other half it's a pretty minimal risk. As for being seen coming in and out of brothels, no partner I've ever had would know a brothel if she saw one. And a random flat in MK is just a random flat in MK, and if she saw me coming out of a random flat it'd quickly become "where my mate from the tennis club" lives. And no, she wouldn't then say "prove it." If you're in a relationship with someone who would do that, you need to end it quickly for reasons entirely unrelated to punting. And as for expenditure, I no more have ever expected a partner to explain her withdrawals from a joint bank account any more than I would expect to have to explain the same to her. We earn the money. We spend it how we want. I've never been in a relationship where we audit each others outgoings on an ongoing basis. Why would anyone do that? We're both adults. But lunch/petrol/train tickets all require cash if it comes to it and "occasions" (birthdays, Christmas') can be used to explain many a hidden expenditure if you need them to quite apart from the old chestnut that the card wouldn't work so I withdrew cash to pay for "x" instead.

 

Basically, given some of the stuff written about risk here, I can see why people punt in the first place given the suspicious and possessive people they appear to be married to.

 

AFFAIR RISK: Love. Plain and simple, end of. Affairs involve attachment. Attachment is a threat. It makes discovery far more likely, for one thing. The average marriage doesn't work well with three sets of passion and a similar number of expectations!

 

PUNTING PRICE: Punting is extremely inexpensive and very good value for money. 50 or 60 pounds for half an hour is negligible. Let me put it this way; when I first punted it cost me about a pound to go to a First Division football match and a tenner for a punt in Soho (if not less). Today, it costs 50 quid for a ticket to the average Premiership football match and I can get a half hour punt for that, if not ten quid more. Ergo, punting used to be ten times more expensive than football as a form of entertainment. Now, it's the same.

 

AFFAIR PRICE:  High, both emotionally and financially. Dating, hotels, travel, and subterfuge all of which are involved in affairs can cost money. And since affairs probably involve more frequent liaisons than punting, the cost must rise proportionately. I would expect the cost of a worthwhile affair calculated monthly must far, far exceed that of punting.  Plus, in an affair you probably want to keep spending money on the lady, albeit against your better judgment.

 

PUNTING EXPERIENCE: You can befriend escorts and have thoroughly enjoyable experiences with them. They are, after all, human beings of the female variety just like the girl you might otherwise have an affair with. Of course, your relationship with a WG will be less intense and as a result, there's no avoiding the fact that it'll be less emotionally rewarding and thus slightly less "fun". But that doesn't mean there can't be interplay and a frisson of excitement -- particularly with a regular -- at all. The loss of a deep emotional experience is, really, the loss of the biggest risk involved in affairs and the best reason not to have one in the first place.

 

AFFAIR EXPERIENCE:  Probably highly intense and massively enjoyable (until it blows up in your face, which it will). The degree of intensity is probably also directly proportionate with the degree of risk taken and the size of the explosion that will follow its discovery. Affairs, thus, = avoid.

 

In the end, unless you have a predilection for Russian Roulette, it's punting that wins every time!

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My view:

PUNTING RISK: Almost none if you're even vaguely sensible. The biggest risk is your phone but honestly, unless you have a snooping, suspicious other half it's a pretty minimal risk. As for being seen coming in and out of brothels, no partner I've ever had would know a brothel if she saw one. And a random flat in MK is just a random flat in MK, and if she saw me coming out of a random flat it'd quickly become "where my mate from the tennis club" lives. And no, she wouldn't then say "prove it." If you're in a relationship with someone who would do that, you need to end it quickly for reasons entirely unrelated to punting. And as for expenditure, I no more have ever expected a partner to explain her withdrawals from a joint bank account any more than I would expect to have to explain the same to her. We earn the money. We spend it how we want. I've never been in a relationship where we audit each others outgoings on an ongoing basis. Why would anyone do that? We're both adults. But lunch/petrol/train tickets all require cash if it comes to it and "occasions" (birthdays, Christmas') can be used to explain many a hidden expenditure if you need them to quite apart from the old chestnut that the card wouldn't work so I withdrew cash to pay for "x" instead.

Basically, given some of the stuff written about risk here, I can see why people punt in the first place given the suspicious and possessive people they appear to be married to.

AFFAIR RISK: Love. Plain and simple, end of. Affairs involve attachment. Attachment is a threat. It makes discovery far more likely, for one thing. The average marriage doesn't work well with three sets of passion and a similar number of expectations!

PUNTING PRICE: Punting is extremely inexpensive and very good value for money. 50 or 60 pounds for half an hour is negligible. Let me put it this way; when I first punted it cost me about a pound to go to a First Division football match and a tenner for a punt in Soho (if not less). Today, it costs 50 quid for a ticket to the average Premiership football match and I can get a half hour punt for that, if not ten quid more. Ergo, punting used to be ten times more expensive than football as a form of entertainment. Now, it's the same.

AFFAIR PRICE: High, both emotionally and financially. Dating, hotels, travel, and subterfuge all of which are involved in affairs can cost money. And since affairs probably involve more frequent liaisons than punting, the cost must rise proportionately. I would expect the cost of a worthwhile affair calculated monthly must far, far exceed that of punting. Plus, in an affair you probably want to keep spending money on the lady, albeit against your better judgment.

PUNTING EXPERIENCE: You can befriend escorts and have thoroughly enjoyable experiences with them. They are, after all, human beings of the female variety just like the girl you might otherwise have an affair with. Of course, your relationship with a WG will be less intense and as a result, there's no avoiding the fact that it'll be less emotionally rewarding and thus slightly less "fun". But that doesn't mean there can't be interplay and a frisson of excitement -- particularly with a regular -- at all. The loss of a deep emotional experience is, really, the loss of the biggest risk involved in affairs and the best reason not to have one in the first place.

AFFAIR EXPERIENCE: Probably highly intense and massively enjoyable (until it blows up in your face, which it will). The degree of intensity is probably also directly proportionate with the degree of risk taken and the size of the explosion that will follow its discovery. Affairs, thus, = avoid.

In the end, unless you have a predilection for Russian Roulette, it's punting that wins every time!

Thank you. This is quite complete answer.

Covering everything.

I only would like to comment on punting experience.

I understand they are human being and I always treat them as I treat any women. But I always have that feeling I can't closer to them as there is a wall between us which built up on the business we have. I would be happy to meet one once for chat and talking snd next time for bedtime fun.

Is there a WG out for this?

Oh, yes I know there is something they call dinner date, but once it's pricey in money and time.

And I am still not sure if the "wall" can be removed.

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If you want to remove the "wall"... Then pull all the bricks out from the bottom! Paying for sex for me is handing over money to the lady because she has to have money to live and pay bills etc...After that lets really enjoy eachother...

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One plus side to punting is wgs are better in the sack. They have more sex with more blokes than civvvies so have learned how to do it well. Well the gooduns have anyway!

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I think the answers to this is fairly obvious (i.e. punting is lower risk, cheaper and a ... let's call it 'healthier' experience than an affair). 

 

If you feel like having an affair, get a divorce / break up with your gf because that means there are bigger issues than just the sex (i.e. real love feelings involved).   If it's just the sex that's missing in your relationship but you really enjoy your partner and care for / love them (seems to be most common), then punting is a solution.  In my opinion, as soon as you enjoy spending more non-sex time with another woman than your partner, it's time for some drastic change - divorce / break-up is not a bad solution in that case and will be much easier / less hurtful to your partner before you have a proper affair if she finds out (and I presume it's pretty difficult to really hide a full-on affair).

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Two very different things entirly...

Risk - depends on your circumstances and your own attitude for acceptable risk levels...

Price - money is money and no real difference as i would spend pretty much the same on a lady i was dating to a lady i was seeing for a short encounter of the sexual kind (barring any special occassions and lifes little luxeries of course)...

Experience - two completely different worlds...however (and this may not happen to all) once in a while there is an overlap...

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Two very different things entirly...

Risk - depends on your circumstances and your own attitude for acceptable risk levels...

Price - money is money and no real difference as i would spend pretty much the same on a lady i was dating to a lady i was seeing for a short encounter of the sexual kind (barring any special occassions and lifes little luxeries of course)...

Experience - two completely different worlds...however (and this may not happen to all) once in a while there is an overlap...

Is it just me who feels it's not full satisfaction?

Or will I get used to it?

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I think the answers to this is fairly obvious (i.e. punting is lower risk, cheaper and a ... let's call it 'healthier' experience than an affair).

If you feel like having an affair, get a divorce / break up with your gf because that means there are bigger issues than just the sex (i.e. real love feelings involved). If it's just the sex that's missing in your relationship but you really enjoy your partner and care for / love them (seems to be most common), then punting is a solution. In my opinion, as soon as you enjoy spending more non-sex time with another woman than your partner, it's time for some drastic change - divorce / break-up is not a bad solution in that case and will be much easier / less hurtful to your partner before you have a proper affair if she finds out (and I presume it's pretty difficult to really hide a full-on affair).

It's only the sex what's missing.

Probably I just want too much from sex. Something bigger than it really is.

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Had an affair once and realised it's not for me. She was married too. We both got out of it in time before it could get too serious.

 

I'm not in search of affection. I already have that from my family. Just sex - and a satisfying variety of it.

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I'm happy with pretty much every aspect of my life apart from no sex life. An affair involves too many complications with emotions and all sorts of other unwanted baggage, so that's where punting fits for me.

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It is only partially true. Men want everything but if there is a lazy way, they take the chance.

There is one more thing for punting. No complications.

Like ordering the dinner in a restaurant. I would rather have girlfriends if it would be easier.

One reason why I am nobody's girlfriend :)

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When we were students, one of my oldest friends conceived the long-term ambition of having a mistress. He found a deep appeal in the idea of having a second woman apart from his future wife permanently available for him. He was so taken with this fantasy that it seemed to become one of the major incentives in his life to get on in the world.

He has indeed got on - is right at the top of his chosen profession. I've never asked him whether he made this dream a reality. It seems like madness to me - a way of multiplying your problems. His marriage is a happy one, though I suspect not the greatest thing in the world sexually. I wonder if he's seen sense and decided to become a punter. Don't know if I'll ever ask him.

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Had an affair once and realised it's not for me. She was married too. We both got out of it in time before it could get too serious.

I'm not in search of affection. I already have that from my family. Just sex - and a satisfying variety of it.

Satisfying variety.... That sounds good.

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One reason why I am nobody's girlfriend :)

Why every woman is so complicated? :-D

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When we were students, one of my oldest friends conceived the long-term ambition of having a mistress. He found a deep appeal in the idea of having a second woman apart from his future wife permanently available for him. He was so taken with this fantasy that it seemed to become one of the major incentives in his life to get on in the world.

He has indeed got on - is right at the top of his chosen profession. I've never asked him whether he made this dream a reality. It seems like madness to me - a way of multiplying your problems. His marriage is a happy one, though I suspect not the greatest thing in the world sexually. I wonder if he's seen sense and decided to become a punter. Don't know if I'll ever ask him.

I never heard if there were any marriage the "greatest thing in the world sexually". :-)

But it would be interesting to know how he ended up...

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Is it just me who feels it's not full satisfaction?

Or will I get used to it?

When you connect with someone (mentally and physically) you will discover something far greater than full satisfaction...

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When you connect with someone (mentally and physically) you will discover something far greater than full satisfaction...

Did you have that with a WG?

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I've not been tempted to either when in a relationship.  However, if I was it would be punting, as to repeat a phrase, it's the ability to walk away afterwards.

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There is one big advantage to punting vs an affair -

 

it is EASY to get laid for money

 

having an affair - finding one - may not be so easy - you may have to wait for an opportunity - which may not come. Oddly enough when I was single I had one gaping chance when I did an evening class - a married woman - but I thought, no - something better will come along. How I regret that. I have also had chances to be unfaithful and kept clean - I regret that too! When you are young you always think there's plenty of time to do this and that.

 

I would have thought that from an experiential point of view - an affair is streets ahead of paid sex as it is mutual

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Affairs are ok if you find a woman that is single or separated.  I would feel very uneasy going out with a married woman that was doing it behind her blokes back.  He may hit me for starters if he finds out!!  I would rather use my brains and see a working girl if I need sex with a beautiful lady.  I had a bad run with some wg but recently I have clicked with a few fit ladies  and the sex has been enjoyable so it doesn't have to be clinical.  Its been just as good as going out with a girl on a date etc.  ok cost considerations but then again if you have a girlfriend or wife that costs you as well and sometimes more as you don't know what they want until its too late.  At least the price is highlighted with a wg! 

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