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Hasn't hit the press yet, but looks like a high-profile operation whereby they can be seen to be "doing something".

http://cms.met.police.uk/news/arrests_and_charges/major_police_operation_by_clubs_and_vice_unit_to_disrupt_vice_trade

"Brothels advertised on cards are almost exclusively places where women are exploited by brothel owners for profit. Sometimes officers have found trafficked women and even children concealed within their premises. These women are often paid little or no money and sometimes held against their will. Many brothel owners have also often been found to be violent towards women in their employ."

Emotive language, though no source of evidence supplied...

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Hasn't hit the press yet, but looks like a high-profile operation whereby they can be seen to be "doing something".

http://cms.met.police.uk/news/arrests_and_charges/major_police_operation_by_clubs_and_vice_unit_to_disrupt_vice_trade

"Brothels advertised on cards are almost exclusively places where women are exploited by brothel owners for profit. Sometimes officers have found trafficked women and even children concealed within their premises. These women are often paid little or no money and sometimes held against their will. Many brothel owners have also often been found to be violent towards women in their employ."

Emotive language, though no source of evidence supplied...

Jolly decent of them to tip off the gangs that raids might be in the offing. Gives them a chance to move the girls, if trafficked girls there indeed be.

A smarter move would have been to note the numbers down, ring as a prospective customer, get the address and then raid.

Will put this down as one of those initiatives designed to make it look as if things are being seen to be done, as opposed to anything actually being achieved.

A little like the recent reports about Scotland being overrun with trafficked Brazilians, who obviously will blend in with the locals seamlessly, and the Council's mad plan to progress the criminalisation process.

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There is no sense, reason or serious thought behind any public statements or actions on drugs, prostitution, feral kids, underage drinking and the other great angsts of the day.

Anyone see the Dispatches prog on the loan companies lending (legally) to the poor credit sector??

I reckon 600% APR on a Provident check, or 2336% on a "payday loan" pushes more single mums to the game than drugs or pimps ever did.

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One of the few good aspects of the coming squeeze on public spending is thatthere will be less to waste on this nonsense.

I am curious though that the statement says nothing about Mr Malthouse's meeting in ? October with phone companies seeking to get them to stop the accounts of those who advertise in phone boxes. Do I assume that it was less than successful?

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Why is this such a bad idea? The cards are in highly visible places and there are plenty of people around who don't want porn/sex adverts pushed in their face. Better to advertise on the internet surely?

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"This year over 400,000 cards have been seized by Metropolitan Police Service officers."

Call me frivolous, but this inescapably conjures an image of Met officers gathering at large swap meets, where the rarer and more collectible cards change hands for considerable sums.

But I do wonder how many punters use the cards these days. Does anyone here?

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"This year over 400,000 cards have been seized by Metropolitan Police Service officers."

Call me frivolous, but this inescapably conjures an image of Met officers gathering at large swap meets, where the rarer and more collectible cards change hands for considerable sums.

But I do wonder how many punters use the cards these days. Does anyone here?

I think you will find that a lot of tourists use the cards, not all will bring their laptops with them to access the Internet whilst in London, plus you cant really use an Internet cafe to surf escort websites for a few hours.

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Emotive language, though no source of evidence supplied...

Possibly because they have no evidence.

If the authorities really believe that these cards lead to abused, trafficked girls would it not be a good idea to ring the numbers for the address and then carry out police raids. :confused::confused:

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..you cant really use an Internet cafe to surf escort websites for a few hours

I've been known to :eek: usually just needs discretion though a few IME will try and police you :confused:

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I am curious though that the statement says nothing about Mr Malthouse's meeting in ? October with phone companies seeking to get them to stop the accounts of those who advertise in phone boxes. Do I assume that it was less than successful?

According to the Beeb, "it is not known" (last three paras):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8401622.stm

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Had to go to central London today and, about 4 PM walked from Euston Road, down tottenham Ct, along New Oxford St and into Holborn.

Cards had indeed been removed -- or those who normally card had taken the day off.

The efficiency of those who removed them and their commitment to recycling seemed variable, there was a dense scurf of cards on the floor of many boxes along Tottenham Ct, not elsewhere. Along New Oxford St little home-made cards had appeared, perhaps posted by those normally squeezed out?

One assumes that all will soon retun to normal...

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I think you will find that a lot of tourists use the cards, not all will bring their laptops with them to access the Internet whilst in London, plus you cant really use an Internet cafe to surf escort websites for a few hours.

Well, maybe, but what's so special about London? Most other places here and abroad cope without cards.

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Well the plod didnt do that good a job, as when I walked along Euston Road this morning every phone box had loads of cards in. Mind you, I'd never book a girl from one of the cards - too risky.

Tarts 1 Met Police 0.

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Hasn't hit the press yet, but looks like a high-profile operation whereby they can be seen to be "doing something".

Emotive language, though no source of evidence supplied...

Ho, yus!!

"The cards will then be destroyed and recycled.

After the seizures have been completed officers from Clubs and Vice will resume plain clothes activity around phone boxes to catch anyone trying to replace them.

These covert operations will continue on 9.12.09 and throughout the Christmas period. "

Leaving aside the difficulty of recycling the cards after destruction, there is a slight touch of Fawlty Towers here...

Episode 1, (with chorus of Julie Bindel look-alikes singing softly in the back ground) the Vice Squad, in uniform (presumably smelling strongly of moth balls) arrive at a red box at 0900. The carder has, one assumes, done his dastardly deed a couple of hours earlier, but, alas given that "Staff from women's outreach agencies such as the Eaves and Object will also be rolling up their sleeves and joining in" the boys in blue couldn't have started any earlier. [in the current weather rolling sleeves up is probably contrary to Health & Safety guidance, but...]

The joint task force of Met, Eaves, Object, and surely, Poppy, dance a Maypole round the box, and every time the music stops the nearest to the door reaches in and picks a card, any card!

After they have harvested all available cards, they do a little swapping and noting new pictures/numbers/services. Then the nice ladies get taxis back to their lairs, while the Vice Squad join hands and dance round behind some suitable hoarding, where they quickly change into civvies, so they can "resume plain clothes activity around phone boxes to catch anyone trying to replace them."

If we want farce, we'll have a "bobby on the beat" appear, at this stage, and nick the Vice for kerb-crawling, or loitering with intent!

Oh joy!

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Quite typical. But this is what goverments do, they posture.

@Jimmyredcab

No, the answer is that they don't have the resources to raid every brothel in london, especially that they know that in reality they won't find anything in 90%.

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its all about 'targets'

someone has set a target and the authorities see this as their prime mission

Targets come into everything now.

eventually the 'targets' take over and the whole job becomes getting the requisite % on targets - and the real world fades into the background

Its like in the hopsitals where patients now are purely seen as "enabling factors" in the acheivment of targets...

after all lots of new managerial jobs have been created out of this culture.

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It reminds me of a Soviet quota system - you have a taget for steel, coal, emergency patients, spies, saboteurs etc. Looks like we are heading in this particular direction currently.

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its all about 'targets'

Given today's news it's also about making Kit Malthouse look "tough on Crime" to ease his way into the Chair of the Met Police Authority.

We'll ignore the fact that Vodafone told him to Feck Off when he asked them to cut off WGs mobiles for the same reason.

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They'll just find another way, skype, sip, phone diversions, an iphone app maybe, there are already a few escort finder apps, and an A-W iphone/android beta.

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