Autumn Temptation

When Did Punting Become Complicated?

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Yes you can have a "spark" and yes we know some date...

 

But when did punting turn into a relationships with a cash transaction?

 

When did punters suddenly decide that they should know if we pay our taxes, or if we have insurance on our cars?

 

What happened to an uncomplicated transaction?

 

Finding a girl attractive, booking her, having great sex, leaving, and not dissecting it to death.

 

Or if we are married, and if our husbands know, what our dogs name is...

 

 

I know as people and humans, we can have civil polite conversation that doesn't delve into either side's personal life.

 

When did clients start needing to know the ins and outs and exactly which I of which T is crossed & dotted,

 

parlour owners,

WG's

Agencies?

Security protocols 

 

All of it ...

 

It's all questioned and dissected within an inch of it's life.

 

Why?

 

 

Can the guys answer me something... 

 

Do you care? or are you just happy getting your end away with a nice conversation after, and happy to walk back to your life, 

 

Or 

 

Do you really need to get embroiled in the lives and times politics of Wg's and their lives.

 

 

 

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Doesn't describe me - can't explain these guys either.

 

But I am not very extroverted - conversation is tough sometimes.  Perhaps these guys ask questions about the business since they are not sure what else to talk about.

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Yes you can have a "spark" and yes we know some date...

But when did punting turn into a relationships with a cash transaction?

When did punters suddenly decide that they should know if we pay our taxes, or if we have insurance on our cars?

What happened to an uncomplicated transaction?

Finding a girl attractive, booking her, having great sex, leaving, and not dissecting it to death.

Or if we are married, and if our husbands know, what our dogs name is...

I know as people and humans, we can have civil polite conversation that doesn't delve into either side's personal life.

When did clients start needing to know the ins and outs and exactly which I of which T is crossed & dotted,

parlour owners,

WG's

Agencies?

Security protocols

All of it ...

It's all questioned and dissected within an inch of it's life.

Why?

Can the guys answer me something...

Do you care? or are you just happy getting your end away with a nice conversation after, and happy to walk back to your life,

Or

Do you really need to get embroiled in the lives and times politics of Wg's and their lives.

Autumn, i have a question for you?

What are your goldfish called...lol

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Boundaries...

some of your customes dont seem to understand ?

 

just ask them for their professional linked-in resume... 

That should wake them up.

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Yes you can have a "spark" and yes we know some date...

 

But when did punting turn into a relationships with a cash transaction?

 

When did punters suddenly decide that they should know if we pay our taxes, or if we have insurance on our cars?

 

What happened to an uncomplicated transaction?

 

Finding a girl attractive, booking her, having great sex, leaving, and not dissecting it to death.

 

Or if we are married, and if our husbands know, what our dogs name is...

 

 

I know as people and humans, we can have civil polite conversation that doesn't delve into either side's personal life.

 

When did clients start needing to know the ins and outs and exactly which I of which T is crossed & dotted,

 

parlour owners,

WG's

Agencies?

Security protocols 

 

All of it ...

 

It's all questioned and dissected within an inch of it's life.

 

Why?

 

 

Can the guys answer me something... 

 

Do you care? or are you just happy getting your end away with a nice conversation after, and happy to walk back to your life, 

 

Or 

 

Do you really need to get embroiled in the lives and times politics of Wg's and their lives.

 

maybe is cos the whole thing is a little exciting and taboo.

 

and the TV shows businesses under the spotlight.  airlines, hotels etc.  so that gets our curiosity going.

 

and its more interesting than corrie.

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I think this thread is interesting given the fact we've had recent threads like."wg asked me out"...and "wg asked me if I've got a girlfriend or wife"etc...I think bothsides of the fence will ask eachother unprofessional questions from time to time.As what we've seen from ops topics on here and things wg's have said to me!

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It never comes up in my punts. I get where do I come from, what am I doing in London and that is it. I make polite noises about their home country if they are foreign. The rest I do not give a stuff about 

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There is a message board called Punternet and from that people got the idea of expressing opinions, responding to others' opinions and asking and answering questions.

 

So it's all G's fault.

 

When  we looked at a pic in a phone box and went and fucked a completely different woman at the flat, there was nowhere to complain and no one to complain to.

 

When we fancied a girl we saw floating through a parlour we had no one to ask if she was all show and no go or not so we did or didn't book with her and had nowhere to tell all till Pnet.

 

All G's fault.

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I do care because my regular lady is a friend who I have known for years and if she is happy, I am happy. We know a lot about each other as friends do and yes we are friends with benefits. But as with friends there are areas we do not go. I am a widower and she does not ask me about my past sex life although I have told her it was great. She is a catholic but I don't ask how she reconciles that.

In answer to your question, I suspect that more of us have friendship sex than ever used to happen in the past.

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Autumn, i have a question for you?

What are your goldfish called...lol

Salt & Pepper. Lol

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I do care because my regular lady is a friend who I have known for years and if she is happy, I am happy. We know a lot about each other as friends do and yes we are friends with benefits. But as with friends there are areas we do not go. I am a widower and she does not ask me about my past sex life although I have told her it was great. She is a catholic but I don't ask how she reconciles that.

In answer to your question, I suspect that more of us have friendship sex than ever used to happen in the past.

I also "care", 

 

but at the onset, there have to be boundaries.

and even as the (business)relationship evolves, as it as in some cases,

you have to make that happen gradually, carefully.

and with a good regular, Sex becomes just a little more the just sex.

 

but still: be careful. ppl change, we all evolve...

She may get into a relationship (with another lesbo...?) and that will then complicate matters.. 

or her kids will open her email...

Be Careful! 

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I think it's the novelty factor - this is not something that people generally talk about so they go a bit crazy when they finally can. It's also a taboo world still which makes it very interesting for lots of people. I agree though, sometimes it's a bit over the top.

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when did punting turn into a relationships with a cash transaction?

I blame the internet. More specifically punting forums. Guys started gathering to swap notes and get a bit more VFM into their expensive hobby. WGs noticed these gatherings and wanted to join in, some just for banter, others to market themselves. Thoughts were shared. Boundaries were crossed. All of a sudden we can see the other persons pov, even if we detest it. For some, finding out more about the other person's pov becomes a goal in itself. Double edged swords and all that.

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re: Post 8

 

Those comments remind me of a client I met some time back..... it was when I first went indie and advertised in a trading mag..... just a box ad and no links or photos etc.

 

We had a good time and got chatting as you do.  He was one of those guys who shied away from the internet.  The conversation got around to forums and discussion boards such as this one....... I remember his very words:

 

"are you telling me that clients and girls have debates and actually TALK about sex! You mean you actually discuss it all?" and he laughed out loud..... thought it was hilarious and just daft. He just couldn't understand why there should be a discussion of any kind on the simple subject of paying and playing.

 

He had a point.

 

G's fault again.

 

:)  

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and its more interesting than corrie.

 

 

Well that can certainly be said: 

 

Sans Punternetgate 1 - ??

 

Anyone know what number we are on for board wars over all this crap?

 

 

I'm not saying an intimate encounter shouldn't have some personal touches.

 

Or that getting closer to a girl shouldn't go further ( hence recent spate of my WG asks me out, or Is a connection Important)

 

I don't disagree with that dynamic.

 

But Boys attacking girls and yes ladies we are just as guilty for attacking punters, over certain issues.

 

Do we really need to hash all that stuff out again and again?

 

Ok Example:

 

Do we really need to have a war over age? I get you want truth, and you prefer a 21 yr old to a 40 yr old.

 

But for half of you your first port of call is a pic... if you fancy her then you look at age etc...

 

If she looks 50 and claims to be 18 fair enough we all get screwed, you as the punter, and us as the honest SPs.

 

But seriously If She claims 18 and is actually 21 but looks 18, does it really and truthfully matter??

 

Or the Nationality thing...

 

Does it matter that she's romainian, but claims polish, if the service is still there?

 

When it's a paid for transaction, do you really need to know where she was born, her mothers maiden name, and that she is actually 27 but the profile says 21??

 

Etc Etc...

 

 

And then we attack each other... the honest SP rightfully pissed, and the Punters assuming and calling all Sp's Liars.

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Yes you can have a "spark" and yes we know some date...

 

But when did punting turn into a relationships with a cash transaction?

 

When did punters suddenly decide that they should know if we pay our taxes, or if we have insurance on our cars?

 

What happened to an uncomplicated transaction?

 

Finding a girl attractive, booking her, having great sex, leaving, and not dissecting it to death.

 

Or if we are married, and if our husbands know, what our dogs name is...

 

 

I know as people and humans, we can have civil polite conversation that doesn't delve into either side's personal life.

 

When did clients start needing to know the ins and outs and exactly which I of which T is crossed & dotted,

 

parlour owners,

WG's

Agencies?

Security protocols 

 

All of it ...

 

It's all questioned and dissected within an inch of it's life.

 

Why?

 

 

Can the guys answer me something... 

 

Do you care? or are you just happy getting your end away with a nice conversation after, and happy to walk back to your life, 

 

Or 

 

Do you really need to get embroiled in the lives and times politics of Wg's and their lives.

 

I was  a bit inspired by a few lines of the Autumn posts. She always write in style, where you can see some poetry to it. (May be its only me).

 

So, I decided to continue:

 

Yes you can have a "spark"

 

Yes you can have spark during a date.

Some through disguise, some cos its fate.

 

 

Do you pay taxes? He scratching his face

Get him to hold the nearest vase…

Tell him you bought it in Monte Carlo

Some Manc guy done same..I think it was Barlow.

No need to blame the dim beloved Gary

Hi does buy his black pud in market in Bury.

 

Whats is your fish called, the one with a horn?

All my fishes like that, thats the way they were born!

What is the orange one, kissing the snail?

I want to fuck you…. please don’t derail!

Her name not Wanda, her name is Sneeze

I never seen fish who got cold in the breeze.

 

 

Does your partner agree with what are you doing?

He certainly does, and right now he might spewing

How you can put poor guy through such torture?

Why fake concerns? Hell not really scorching.

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Definitely one of your "better" posts Xenia ;)

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re: Post 8 Those comments remind me of a client I met some time back..... it was when I first went indie and advertised in a trading mag..... just a box ad and no links or photos etc. We had a good time and got chatting as you do.  He was one of those guys who shied away from the internet.  The conversation got around to forums and discussion boards such as this one....... I remember his very words: "are you telling me that clients and girls have debates and actually TALK about sex! You mean you actually discuss it all?" and he laughed out loud..... thought it was hilarious and just daft. He just couldn't understand why there should be a discussion of any kind on the simple subject of paying and playing. He had a point. G's fault again. :)

I remember a conversation with a lovely lass in the north west (part timer, good job, studying, just out to have fun and make a bit more cash etc etc) who had no idea such things as punting forums existed. When I mentioned that I was a member of one, she looked really puzzled for a bit and her first question was "what do you all talk about?". Before I could answer, a look of horrified comprehension came over her face and she sputtered the word "us?". I quickly changed the subject ......

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This isn't anything new. Its been questioned many a time since I came onto this forum and that was almost 6 years ago so Im sure there problem has always been there as long as there have been  men and women meeting who they find they want to know more about. Regardless of transactional or emotional  people have a strong basic urge to connect, its quite simple. Perhaps some people just sub consciously cannot cope with a completely impersonal sexual  interaction with another person. 

 

How often have we seen these

 

"do you need an emotional connection"

"I've fallen for a wg"

"I've fallen for a punter"

"I need to be able to conversate with the escort/punter"

 

These are just a few examples which indicate that the drive to know more is very strong and also very widespread. Despite everyone acting like its just about a bonk for cash a lot of people don't realise that psychologically they need more than that probably because the only reason they are bonking for cash is because the person they wish to connect with is unavailable, I guess wanting or needing to know a bit about the other person is just natural and our industry is not natural, its man/woman made.

 

Its about connections. Our brains are wired to connect with other people so not connecting is effectually going against our own nature

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Yes you can have a "spark" and yes we know some date...

 

But when did punting turn into a relationships with a cash transaction?

 

When did punters suddenly decide that they should know if we pay our taxes, or if we have insurance on our cars?

 

What happened to an uncomplicated transaction?

 

Finding a girl attractive, booking her, having great sex, leaving, and not dissecting it to death.

 

Or if we are married, and if our husbands know, what our dogs name is...

 

 

I know as people and humans, we can have civil polite conversation that doesn't delve into either side's personal life.

 

When did clients start needing to know the ins and outs and exactly which I of which T is crossed & dotted,

 

parlour owners,

WG's

Agencies?

Security protocols 

 

All of it ...

 

It's all questioned and dissected within an inch of it's life.

 

Why?

 

 

Can the guys answer me something... 

 

Do you care? or are you just happy getting your end away with a nice conversation after, and happy to walk back to your life, 

 

Or 

 

Do you really need to get embroiled in the lives and times politics of Wg's and their lives.

 

I was thinking the same the other day.  Plus, despite being lots of girls who post here regularly, guys still ask info on some girls (or same agencies in the London forum) who never bothered to post anything around and simply rely on some heavily photoshoped pictures.  

 

To draw a comparison, I never trust reviews on hotels written by a traveller on a well know travel site, saying 'what a great place', yet that person never bothers to write a review ever again.  Why should I trust it here or anywhere else?

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I suppose it is the variant of the age old question, "Why is a nice girl like you doing this job?"

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I was thinking the same the other day.  Plus, despite being lots of girls who post here regularly, guys still ask info on some girls (or same agencies in the London forum) who never bothered to post anything around and simply rely on some heavily photoshoped pictures.  

 

To draw a comparison, I never trust reviews on hotels written by a traveller on a well know travel site, saying 'what a great place', yet that person never bothers to write a review ever again.  Why should I trust it here or anywhere else?

some people cannot afford to go on holiday often

 

this is why reviews by first time reviewers on this site can only be done for ladies who have already been reviewed by someone else

 

to be honest I think a lot of hypocrisy comes into play regarding the exchange of information. I know girls who have happily given details of their lives to certain clients then bitch and moan when another guy asks a simple question in the name of conversation. The fact is that if you are really that protective of your personal life then you wont tell anyone, if you cherry pick then you stand the risk of one punter talking to another punter then the other punter turning up thinking you are an open type of person, they ask a little question and then get bitched about when the reality of it is that  you have given the impression that you are fairly open regarding your life…punters talk so of all things why do some girls think they wont talk about that too

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I suppose it is the variant of the age old question, "Why is a nice girl like you doing this job?"

So by default we could ask the guys "whats a nice guy like you doing paying for it?" x

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I just like talking...

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I just like talking...

Me too. I would find it hard to chat without saying anything personal whatsoever. 

 

This thread has brought to mind a thread I read somewhere, maybe here maybe not. Basically a guy had been chatting to the escort he booked and she was so happy at becoming a grandmother that she blurted it out and told him. He was disgusted that he had found himself to be fucking a grandmother even though she was not an old woman. I guess when it comes to talking to us girls its a case of "be careful what you wish for" as you may here something you dont actually want to here lol 

 

The general consensus If I remember correctly though was that the guy was an utter dick for his bad attitude

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