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Cam Girl And Hooker. Is There A Moral Difference?

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Somethimes when I am bored I look in on cam girls.

Usually myfreecams.com.  other cam girl websites exist.

So there blokes are enticed by the girls to pay for them to take off clothes or so rack one off on cam. Some people pay huge sums of cash, like more than a half hour punt. WTF??

 

I have occasionally mentioned to other viewers via the private chat facility that instead to wanking at an online image they could see a hooker, and get grumpy replies.

 

sorry, but i fail to see the moral difference between paying a girl to wank online and seeing a hooker.  Or am I missing something?

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Somethimes when I am bored I look in on cam girls.

Usually myfreecams.com.  other cam girl websites exist.

So there blokes are enticed by the girls to pay for them to take off clothes or so rack one off on cam. Some people pay huge sums of cash, like more than a half hour punt. WTF??

 

I have occasionally mentioned to other viewers via the private chat facility that instead to wanking at an online image they could see a hooker, and get grumpy replies.

 

sorry, but i fail to see the moral difference between paying a girl to wank online and seeing a hooker.  Or am I missing something?

 

Yes, one would be grounds for divorce, the other not ! :D

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I think seeing a hooker is best cos you get to actually feel her boobies!

 

Cams that's mikey mouse bollocks and it would frustrate me, would rather watch a good porno.

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Yes, one would be grounds for divorce, the other not ! :D

I don't think it's the guy who would decide that lol x

Imagine an internet affair where you never met but had Skype sex. Grounds for divorce,,,highly likely x

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I don't get the camming thing, never have done. I imagine the audience to be mainly teenage boys who aren't old enough to actually visit girls.

I would see web cam as less morally wrong, given there's no physical contact and no risk of catching and passing on an sti. Camming seems more aligned to watching porn than paying for physical sex.

But as Chloe says, for you married guys, the decision would be made for you ;)

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Forget about the moral difference, Cov. Unless you believe that provoking sexual arousal in others is morally wrong, morality doesn't come into it. The only problem the man might want to ask himself is: am I happy doing this thing that would cause pain to my wife or whatever?

It's simply a question of boundaries - those of the providers and the punters. Some women will be able to provide a show via webcam, but could not bring themselves to have sex with strangers. Some will be able to pole-dance (and may even get off on it), which requires a different kind of courage from that needed to do a one-to-one full-service, but would not work as what would in standard terms be called a prostitute. And vice versa. Erotic massage is another relevant category here. It's all to do with what they are comfortable with.

In the same way some men will not see prostitutes. Either out of some kind of self-regard ("I don't have to pay for it"), or timidity, or concern about trafficking or whatever. But they will feel happy with a cammer. They might be happy in a strip-club (particularly in company) as that wouldn't be "sad" but a jolly form of male bonding.

The only difference I can see is that the cam-watchers are getting less value for money.

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Many men are too nervous to actually see sex workers, some might be physically unable to can't find the time to sneak off to see someone. Maybe some men don't want actual sex but enjoy wanking off on cam. The reasons are endless. No need to judge them on why they do this or how much they spend. It's far more real than a porn film as there is interaction between the two parties, which I would have thought was the obvious difference. 

 

In terms of morality, I don't think there is anything immoral about either! 

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We know that prostitution is the exchange of cash for sexual services........... but does that mean only actual physical interaction.... as opposed to screen action/sexchat phone calls etc.  ?  I am not sure of that one.... but does it matter?

 

Some men go for the webcam fun because if they book a one to one session they can tell (that should really be request ) the girl to do this or that at his direction..... which I imagine would be more of a turn on than just watching her and hoping she does what he wants.

 

As to whether it is morally worse to take cash for physical sex rather than on screen fun............ there is no answer.... it is entirely subjective.  Some webcam women may believe they are better than real life sp's but in my opinion that is tripe. 

 

Accepting money for a man to do his thing is prostitution in my view...... whether or not he can actually touch her.

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good answers

 

so why are men who are happy to watch on cams so anti seeing hookers?

 

I think being caught by the missus paying to watch girls wank on line is not a marriage enhancing event.

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so why are men who are happy to watch on cams so anti seeing hookers?

 

I guess we all defend our own actions.  If I buy over priced bad tasting wine - when this is first pointed out, I defend what I did.  "I like it".

 

If I was caught watching cam girls, regardless of the money i wasted, my marriage just might survive it.  A single £100 punt and it would not.  Not morality, just the way it would be with the Griffette.

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I do both, had some epic cam meets. 

 

The 'thrill' of the search can be similar to meets, getting value, looking at pics etc. Less effort required, but c2c can be great. 

 

Can scratch the itch, better than porn. Generally costs are low, normally a tenner or so. 

 

Morally I'd say there is a clear difference. It's in the middle of viewing porn, and seeing a real life wg. 

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Morally I'd say there is a clear difference. It's in the middle of viewing porn, and seeing a real life wg. 

 

Leave out the first word as it complicates things and I pretty much agree with you.

 

I would not say cams are literally in the middle but much nearer porn that physical sex but while many wives may hate their husbands doing the first two, I would have thought/guessed a physical relationship is the only one that would be likely to cause a separation.

 

Yes just guessing but that's what we do in hypothetical arguments, isn't it.

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We know that prostitution is the exchange of cash for sexual services........... but does that mean only actual physical interaction.... as opposed to screen action/sexchat phone calls etc.  ?  I am not sure of that one.... but does it matter?

 

 

Thats an interesting point. Prostitution is the providing of sexual services in return for cash, goods or services. Does frigging yourself off on cam so a guy can become sexually aroused class as a sexual service? I would have thought it did really as whats the difference between that and a guy who books an escort only to sit on a chair and have a toss while he watchers her play with her fanny. In person you would definatley class that as a sexual service so why not over cam, in neither case any touching is involved but its the same thing, just further away. It clearly is, to me, a sexual service.

 

Re the moral, I agree, none of this is immoral as who is it that gets to decide whats moral or not, some will say society but I disagree. I say its the church that decided what  moral codes our society is meant to live by long before any of us were born, as far as Im concerned its not the natural religion of this country and most definitely not the religion of our ancestors. Id be interested to hear what the pagans who follow the old style religion, not new fangled wicca have to say on the issue. Not that I am one, but lets face it, its what developed here naturally over thousands of years.

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I would have thought that wives would see a difference - cams are porn, more or less. It's the actual physical contact that wives would find treacherous. That said - being found out watching cams or porn is not good for the marriage - that's for sure - bound to be few dishes flying.

 

I spent a bit of money on cams at one time - it works out at about £1 a minute - I realised that was silly and stopped at about £50. It can be quite nice to look at some of the beautiful ladies on there (most are dogs of course or girls with nice bodies but plainish faces)

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I use both cams and escorts. my wife would not see the difference and I know divorce paper would be served caught doing either.

 

I like Cams better than porn as I can talk to someone and play out a few fantasies, given a choice I would go to an escort and often do, but opportunity is the key.

 

Getting away for a couple of hours is not easy for a punt, 10 minutes camming is easy.  

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I would have thought that wives would see a difference - cams are porn, more or less. It's the actual physical contact that wives would find treacherous. That said - being found out watching cams or porn is not good for the marriage - that's for sure - bound to be few dishes flying.

 

I spent a bit of money on cams at one time - it works out at about £1 a minute - I realised that was silly and stopped at about £50. It can be quite nice to look at some of the beautiful ladies on there (most are dogs of course or girls with nice bodies but plainish faces)

Well I was a wife once before I came into this industry and I can promise you that although there would have been a slight difference the hurt and anger and betrayal would have felt the same….as would the end result have been the same. A wife wouldnt view it as the same as porn. Porn is just a dirty movie, camping is interaction, its real people interacting with each other

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Somethimes when I am bored I look in on cam girls.

Usually myfreecams.com.  other cam girl websites exist.

So there blokes are enticed by the girls to pay for them to take off clothes or so rack one off on cam. Some people pay huge sums of cash, like more than a half hour punt. WTF??

 

I have occasionally mentioned to other viewers via the private chat facility that instead to wanking at an online image they could see a hooker, and get grumpy replies.

 

sorry, but i fail to see the moral difference between paying a girl to wank online and seeing a hooker.  Or am I missing something?

 

You can watch cams from the privacy of your own home without even having to shower, never mind leave the house.

 

 

 

Yes, one would be grounds for divorce, the other not ! :D

 

Not according to the Mumsnet brigade - even still-life  'glamour'  pictures are grounds for some,  never mind moving, live pictures where you interact !

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 (most are dogs of course or girls with nice bodies but plainish faces)

   

 

 

 

 Careful here , the use of the word dog can be offensive to some wg    [ but i think you will be ok as you're on the right side of the fence ] 

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At a basic level,obviously there is a difference.One is,you could say,more physical.On a moral difference,i believe few people see the difference,its all selling sexual services to "perverts".Just loo at the press this weekend and the debacle over the Camerons nanny being found on a cam site.I'll give you the headline from the Sun as its the nearest to hand."NANNY TO PM'S KIDS IN SEX FOR SALE SHOCKER".Next we have "Her Nude Pics On Sleazy Website".Then goes on about websites offering sexual services(cam sites) and includes the old chestnut,"Some services offered on the site are too raunchy to detail on a family newspaper".Exactly the same language used in pretty much every article on prostitution they've ever printed.
The outrage you read associated with these sort of "cam" articles is the same as you find for those about selling sex.Even the way people talk about it.To me,it seems a lot of people view both the same and view the customers of both as equally as "bad".

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I would have thought that wives would see a difference - cams are porn, more or less. It's the actual physical contact that wives would find treacherous. That said - being found out watching cams or porn is not good for the marriage - that's for sure - bound to be few dishes flying.

 

I spent a bit of money on cams at one time - it works out at about £1 a minute - I realised that was silly and stopped at about £50. It can be quite nice to look at some of the beautiful ladies on there (most are dogs of course or girls with nice bodies but plainish faces)

 

Disagree.i have seen some stunners

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I have more of a problem with men referring to women as hookers tbh. 

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Careful here , the use of the word dog can be offensive to some wg    [ but i think you will be ok as you're on the right side of the fence ]

Enjoy the virtual kick you just got in the bollocks....

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yes dog is offensive.  it is gender neutral or masculine.  The right word (some may say but i could not possibly comment) is bitch.

 

"Hooker" though Lydia? We are talking about Cam girls fucking on camera, with fingers and toys up there arse.  We were not talking words. I wont call these slut-slags as "hookers" from now on.  Unless they are from the 60s and starred in "the happy hooker"

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yes dog is offensive.  it is gender neutral or masculine.  The right word (some may say but i could not possibly comment) is bitch.

 

"Hooker" though Lydia? We are talking about Cam girls fucking on camera, with fingers and toys up there arse.  We were not talking words. I wont call these slut-slags as "hookers" from now on.  Unless they are from the 60s and starred in "the happy hooker"

 

on a point of order, fucking is something boys and girls do.  using a dildo isnt fucking.

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