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Would An Independent Scotland Make Any Difference To Laws On Sexwork?

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If Scotland became independent do you think that would make it more or less likely for a law against sexwork to be passed, or would it not make any difference?

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Labour are more likely to introduce laws, punishing prostitution, they still have a few "feminists" who need to keep themselves busy.. Snp are the party of pragmatists, and will leave it well alone.

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I would suspect that they will have plenty of other larger issues to deal with.

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If Scotland became independent do you think that would make it more or less likely for a law against sexwork to be passed, or would it not make any difference?

 

I think it would make it less likely for such a law to be passed in England and Wales, because it would make it more difficult for Labour to win a UK election.

 

There are Labour MPs who are against criminalisation, and there are Tory MPs who are in favour. But Labour is under more feminist influence.

 

In Scotland, it would make no difference, because such matters are devolved to the Scottish Parliament already.

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Based solely on Scotland's MEPs - they appear to be for a regulated sex industry for consenting adults and

based solely on Scotland's MSPs - who rejected the recent proposal to ban purchasing sexy time and

based on a handful of Scotland's Westminster MPs - who are for outlawing purchasing sexy times ( names available on request ), then I make the following conclusion.

 

An independent Scotland with the out-of-touch Westminster cohort on the dole would end up having even better laws on prostitution, after they had sorted out all the more pressing issues first of course.

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I think it would make it less likely for such a law to be passed in England and Wales, because it would make it more difficult for Labour to win a UK election.

 

There are Labour MPs who are against criminalisation, and there are Tory MPs who are in favour. But Labour is under more feminist influence.

 

In Scotland, it would make no difference, because such matters are devolved to the Scottish Parliament already.

 

if they do get independence, what will be the point of the SNP?  surely after time it will resort to left vs right.  whether it will be labour and tory or quite new scottish parties I dont know.

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Post independence the SNP will have lost its "raison d'etre" and will disappear up its' own fundamental orifice in about 3 years.

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Am I right in thinking if Scotland gets independence and Labour win the general election then that will mean Harriet Harman and her Labour feminist friends will have less power over Scotland's laws?

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Post independence the SNP will have lost its "raison d'etre" and will disappear up its' own fundamental orifice in about 3 years.

Have The SNP not smiled favourably on Swedish Model type laws and aul Rhoda (FSP, Fake Socialist Party) didn't get her insanity passed because of politicing, as much as because of the superb efforts of sex workers fighting this evil!

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if they do get independence, what will be the point of the SNP?  surely after time it will resort to left vs right.  whether it will be labour and tory or quite new scottish parties I dont know.

Actually, post independence in The Republic our version of the SNP then, Auld Sinn Fein split into ultimately the FPI - Fascist Party Of Ireland - Fine Gael and the Mafia Party - Fiannna Fail and as they were both Right Wing parties, We have never had a Left-Right dichotomy, despite having a Fake Socialist Party of our own here, which loves rimming the holes of other mainstream European Fake Socialist Parties!

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I forsee one last try in Scotland, post referendum, obviously. 

 

Rhoda Grant didn't take her defeat and exposure as inexplicably stupid too well, funnily enough, and is making noises 

in the background about a fresh attempt.

 

That's okay, we're ready.  :cool:

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It must be more than a little humiliating for RG when it turned out most of the support for her last consultation came from churchgoers who knew nothing on the topic other than some TV show they had seen at church; and that out of the sexworkers who responded (63- and that figure excludes groups such as IUSW) only 3 were in support and the overwhelmingly majority (60) did not support it.

 

I agree before long either she (or one of her Labour colleagues) will try yet again. Although it would be a pleasant and refreshing change instead of debating the Swedish model to death for the 5th or 6th time in recent years if we could instead debate a proposal that suggested something different such as decriminalization.

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With Margo gone, sex workers have lost a very strong supporter in the parliament (Jean Urquhart is possibly even more pro-sex worker, though), but there's certainly no fundamental support for increasing sex laws in the SNP. The Greens will likely gain a fair few ex-SNP votes after independence, and they're certainly not in favour of draconian sex laws. The Lib Dems (presumably benefiting from a severing of ties with Nick Clegg et al) consider such laws as illiberal, and Tories don't vote for laws that would incriminate themselves...

 

But sex laws are already devolved (as is all of Scots law), so there's no real reason why independence should suddenly change things. It's probably less likely if anything, because the current situation provides the perfect conditions for such laws - mediocre politicians being promoted because Labour sees Westminster as the "real" parliament, combined with a perceived need to be seen *doing things*. That will change when powers over the economy, defence and foreign affairs etc. rest with Holyrood instead of Westminster. The likes of Rhoda Grant will be safely consigned to local government.

 

(Incidentally, independence does not necessarily mean the end of the SNP - for example, one of Iceland's largest two parties remains the Independence Party...)

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Am I right in thinking if Scotland gets independence and Labour win the general election then that will mean Harriet Harman and her Labour feminist friends will have less power over Scotland's laws?

If there is a YES vote in September, should Scotland be allowed to elect MPs to the Westminster parliament in 2015? 

 

My answer would be a resounding NO.

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