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Before You Leave A 'no' Against A Lady's Name...

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I will not state whether I am involved in the sex industry or not, but I am very disgusted at the quantity of 'negative' reviews on here.

Putting a big red NO against a lady's / establishment's name for seemingly trivial issues is a VERY spiteful thing to do.  Not only this, put for the ladies it can be very harmful to their reputation and their income.

I firmly believe that only a 'NO' should be put against someone's name for the most serious of reasons, such as (but not limited to):
-The girl not as described (again, only if the pictures differ massively from her actual appearance, such as a size 8 in the pictures and a size 20 in the flesh)
-Stealing items/money
-Extremely foul hygiene or a very nasty personality towards the punter
-Threatening or blackmailing behaviour
-DEMANDING that you leave well before your paid-for time slot has expired
Etc.
 

Reviews that have a 'NO' against them, 99% of the time, seem to have very, very neutral information about the seemingly terrible experience. For example, 'she would not look at me during intercourse', 'flat was not as big as expected', 'my cock was only semi-erect when she put the condom on', and other trivial, nasty comments which do not deserve reputation damage. There are too many reviews like this with a 'NO' against them, which isn't fair on the lady, who likely depends on the job for her income.  How would you like it?  It damages reputation and hurts feelings - very spiteful of you.
No escort wants to have explicit details of the bookings posted on the internet, some of them have partners and friends who also not want to hear about the experience in SUCH great detail, down to the incremental moments.
It would be polite to generalise the experience and not write about it in such detail, unless it was truly unique.  Establishments/agencies and independents should attempt to bar 'punters' who tarnish reputations negatively when they are not deserved.
Many ladies do not give 'their best' for two main reasons:
1) Poor personal hygiene from the punter; you MUST be freshly showered without a hint of body odour, cock cheese or other disgusting things, nor does it hurt to take a breath mint
2) Rude behaviour; asking for free time, playing the girl off against the competition, insisting she drinks/does coke when she has said no, and tutting when she asks for the money and counts it.  I'm sure you count your wages when you are paid?
Escorts should always try to give great customer service too, but as I have said above, only negative reviews should be left against someone's name if the offence is of a serious nature (otherwise you're just being a spiteful cunt).
The prices of escorts are not very high in many places, particularly massage parlours - very similar to those of hair salons actually, yet would you leave such a spiteful review against your barber if he 'didn't make eye contact and smile' at you all the way through?  Just think of what the poor escort has to do to service you (if you are rude or unclean), maybe then you'll have a bit of sympathy and the decency not to tarnish her reputation without a good enough reason.

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I sort of agree with you but then I thought it through the service provider sets the list of what makes a negative point? The punter is a "spiteful cunt" if he strays from that list?

I like to think punters who read reviews online tend to go beyond the headlines and can decide himself on the importance of such things.

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I would only put a NO in the recommended section if the service provider was physically substantially different and less appealing than advertised, or gave such a bad service that I felt I had been conned out of my money.

 

At the end of the day (or at the end of the appointment more literally), the punter is paying a lot of money, and he expects value for money for that service.

 

Let us not forget there are many out there struggling to get a job a £6 per hour. The average monthly wage in some EE countries is around £800, probably far less in China.

 

Let us also not forget that there are a lot of service providers "borrowing" photos to make themselves look much more appealing. We the punters should do our due diligence on every SP to check the photos before making the booking. It really isn't that hard to check photos these days.  

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I remember reading a review that was given a no because the lady had a ladder in her stocking. I just thought "twat" and it wasn't about the lady. I think the guys have enough brain cells to read a negative review and come to a sane conclusion if it's negative for a petty reason and that won't damage her rep it will damage his credibility.

Plus of course on this site a lady has the right to put her side of the story in a rebuttal which shows up under the review if she is in disagreement with the stated facts or comments. I notice the majority go without rebuttal

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If you worry about the effect of a negative comment on here, try telling those on UKP.

 

There is a system on here and punters use it as they see fit. Stupid reasons for a negative review will be seen through as Chloe says and negative ones will be set against positive ones.

 

Positive ones are used as advertising by SPs/parlours so you are saying we MUST contribute the the publicity unless YOUR prescribed list of criteria is met. NO thanks.

 

It is a recommendation so a yes because you want us to put yes means someone might more likely book with someone lies there like a sack of potatoes looking at the clock and yawning??

 

SPs can have all their reports removed and can refute what they see as unfair criticism.

 

I am as fluffy as they come and I think your point is wrong (and if you pay as much for a hairdo as for a punt, you must be richer than me) and it is not up to punters if it's a big red no or small black one, is it.

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Any reviews I write, not many on here I'll admit! are what I consider a fair account of a booking. I'd certainly not put a no for something trivial, or if I did I'd qualify it in the write up. it would have to be something that genuinely ruined the punt, and I'd agree some No's seem a bit trivial. That said, it's the reviewers right to recommend or not, based on their experiences at the time. They were there, we weren't. It might be a combination of fairly trivial things which had a cumulative negative effect.

At the end of the day the NO is only saying the reviewer wouldn't recommend the lady, or wouldn't see her again - but that in itself would have little to no bearing upon whether I'd book her or not. I'd read the review first and make a judgement as to why the review was a NO. I'd also base it against other reviews of the same lady. If the NO was something I considered trivial I'd take no notice of it anyway.

A quick glance of the last 500 reviews shows only about 12% are a NO - not a huge percentage I wouldn't have thought, and I really don't see what the problem is.

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I think either a recommemdation or a 'no' should be justified in the write up.I also think silly one liner reports should not see the light of day.I once had a report that basically said this 'Bibi was fun and gave a good service but I don't like bbws so I won't book again.'Not only a useless review for fellow punters...surely most potential clients want to know what sort of services and how it was delivered...but why book a bbw when you don't fancy them?I make it clear what size I am and my photos are pretty much bare all selfies.Aside from that...I had been in a 2 hour booking with a regular when this silly person was supposedly in a 30 minute booking with me.

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I think either a recommemdation or a 'no' should be justified in the write up.I also think silly one liner reports should not see the light of day.I once had a report that basically said this 'Bibi was fun and gave a good service but I don't like bbws so I won't book again.'Not only a useless review for fellow punters...surely most potential clients want to know what sort of services and how it was delivered...but why book a bbw when you don't fancy them?I make it clear what size I am and my photos are pretty much bare all selfies.Aside from that...I had been in a 2 hour booking with a regular when this silly person was supposedly in a 30 minute booking with me.

ah you always get one bibs. I have a negative comment somewhere saying that I looked shit in my body stocking…except that I have never owned nor worn a body stocking. They just assumed its standard "ho wear" safe embellishment  I guess for their bullshit. x

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I would not call a 12% negative review rate a particularly high quantity. In fact I’ve just looked at a few windows of reviews going back over the last 15 years and they pretty consistently fall in the 10 to 12% range, so I would have thought that statistically that was a pretty accurate measure of the state of affairs. In fact, I might have expected ladies to have improved their level of service over those years as that is what the government expects out of most of the rest of the service sector! :)

 

But the review invites the reviewer to state whether he would recommend the lady, and so if he wouldn’t, so be it. There’s nothing spiteful about it and the reasons for his NO can usually be gleaned by reading the review.

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Perhaps sticking to the old phase 'if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all' applies to escort reviews too?

If a client is not happy over a trivial issue (such as a ladder in the stocking, or having a hair out of place), it really isn't fair to leave a review that's available to the whole world stating that she's not worth visiting.  Escorts are still people and nobody is perfect.  

Perhaps unless it's really serious, and I have heard/read some horrid things that escorts have done (in terms of stealing rolexes and being very nasty to disabled clients), then you simply don't return.

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I have to admit that I find it very strange how reviews containing such intricate details are left for some ladies.  I have just read too many reviews on PunterNet where the price has been as low as £40, and a 'NO' has been placed against the lady's name for something really small and inconsequential.  Regarding prices, some parlour prices are similar to those of hair salons/beauty spas, yet there's no website containing such intricate reviews on your local hairdressers or beauty therapists. Don't forget that the escort is selling an extremely intimate service and the job is hard enough for her to begin with - it takes a lot of courage to have sex with a stranger. How would you like it?

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I have personally done a few maiding shifts in a few parlours, and I have been sitting there when the owner has called an escort to one side and spoken to her regarding a negative review.  Of course, some are deserved, but many are not, and I've seen the damage it can have on a lady's emotions not to mention her income! Let's also not forget the fact that if many poor reviews are left for escorts the really serious issues won't stand out!

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I would agree with English 2014.  Very rarely I read reviews, purely because having met girls in real life and how they behave towards other women or how they talk about clients, it got me very disgusted.  I am equally shocked by their amazing reviews or negative reviews for girls who really make the effort.  I concluded some reviews are written purely for advertising, some by guys who might pass though a 'phase' and are not happy with many things in their private lives therefore will be negative and some reviews are written by guys simply stating what happened.  We are all different and perceive the reality in different ways.

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If there is one negative review then I csn discount it. Several point to a trend. Sometimes the early warning signs that a woman is getting fed up could be laddered stockings or a messy unmade bed.

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But the review invites the reviewer to state whether he would recommend the lady, and so if he wouldn’t, so be it. There’s nothing spiteful about it and the reasons for his NO can usually be gleaned by reading the review.

 

Actually the large red 'NO' is fairly prominent, and the first thing that a person sees when scrolling through the list of ladies names.  She may be perfectly lovely and suitable for the client, but I doubt he would bother looking into her negative review after seeing that great big red no against her name.

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The OP is missing the point of a review site, as has already been said, if a provider is good enough, they will get good reviews, if not, a bad review acts as a caution/ warning to others. 

 

Negativity is in the eyes of the person giving the report, some reasons are trivial, but they can be a good guide, and some reviewers have a great track record of supplying good data, eg Manmeat.

 

Ultimately, I or my little friend, make the decision, but a properly researched punt is usually better than a 'pot luck' punt. 

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Quick response to earlier points: You didn't say you were a female - punters don't pay that much for hair dos and don't go to beauty therapists. As I said before, the big red No is up to Pnet, not the punters. We say yes because of the typography now?

 

As someone else has said, we recommend to other punters or we don't. I am not going to lie - simple as that.

 

Go and tell UKP not to write critically about 'WGs' as they call them and when you have fluffied them up, come back to us - they are apoplectic when we praise (yes they have positives too but also BIG RED NEGATIVES).

 

But be ready to be eaten alive - or is it you that wrote about the topic on there a few days ago?

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Just re-read my post and had a look at the UKP thread I referred to.

 

Presumably not English2014 who started that thread but also apparently hasn't contributed to it.

 

As I said, I think she may get short shrift on that forum but there is a fairly good exchange of views in the thread and it also has to be said that positive punts are freely described in the review section, apparently not unsubmitted for fear of criticism it seems and good performers praised usefully get positive responses from readers.

 

But I do feel the 'we pay they perform' stance sits a little uneasily with me at times. 

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Go and tell UKP not to write critically about 'WGs' as they call them

 

Ah, you've stumbled on our new word filter ;)

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If there is one negative review then I csn discount it. Several point to a trend. Sometimes the early warning signs that a woman is getting fed up could be laddered stockings or a messy unmade bed.

I doubt it. I couldnt tell you how many times Ive been attacked by the "man toenail dagger" or the dry hard skin on his foot has scratched a hole in my stockings which were perfectly nice when he arrived or the attack of the killer watch strap has popped a hole in them the second he has run his hand over my leg. Ive had lingerie snagged by a guys rough dry skin before now so that it has pull lines all over it. If someone can't be arsed to make the bed for you then yes, fair enough, a sign that she doesnt really care much but a laddered stocking, no, sorry, dont buy that at all. More like she didnt realise it had laddered. Thankfully its summer so I haven't really been wearing them but winter is coming…stocking time and Im wishing they would sell kevlar infused stockings

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From y experience, the clients who have a class would never ever leave a bad review just to feel better because they could humiliate somebody on the net. Usually those who write bad , offending reviews are not so confident in normal life .

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I will not state whether I am involved in the sex industry or not,

 

I think we can draw our own conclusions.

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Actually the large red 'NO' is fairly prominent, and the first thing that a person sees when scrolling through the list of ladies names.  She may be perfectly lovely and suitable for the client, but I doubt he would bother looking into her negative review after seeing that great big red no against her name.

Then he's a fool. If I was looking for a review of a wg and saw a big red NO against the review I'd still read it as I'd want to know why!

Then I might make a judgement which could be anything from I wouldn't see the wg, to the reviewer is a tosser. I can't believe a serious punter wouldn't read the review anyway.

The only reviews I have problems with are ones nasty for the sake of it or obvious fakes. If it comes across as an honest appraisal of a booking I don't have a problem with it, and in no way should people be discouraged from writing a negative review or not recommended if that's how they really feel. If every single review is a positive and a yes, and there are no negatives - there'd be little point in having a review system.

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To be honest Im wondering why the complaint is going on here and not on the site that really has the nasty reviews. At least the ladies get the right to reply on here without someone tearing them a new one verbally and smearing her name in the dirt. Its about as fair as you can get here. There is even now a neutral button in case the punt wasnt good nor bad. 

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Ah, you've stumbled on our new word filter ;)

 

Something new every day.

 

Does their exact version get through: pro$$ie

 

 

 

Apparently not!

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