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Documentary Research - Escorts In Relationships

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Hi, my name is Ryan and I work for a TV production company called Films of Record. We've been established for over thirty years and make documentaries such as BBC2's Great Ormond Street series. I am currently researching into the area of escorts and specifically those in relationships for a potential documentary.

 

Im trying to speak to escorts with partners who know that their husband/wife/girlfriend/boyfriend is an escort. If you yourself are an escort in a relationship or you know someone who is an escort and might be interested in answering some quick questions, I'd be very grateful to hear from you!

At the moment this is just for research so you wouldn’t have to worry about taking part in anything and anything you said would be confidential! Feel free to send a private message or email my colleague Laura at laurac@filmsofrecord.com.

Thanks very much for your help,
Ryan

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Why do I sometimes feel like we are the new lab rats of social dissection . 

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Why do I sometimes feel like we are the new lab rats of social dissection . 

Beyond tedious. Beginning to feel like some freaky species.  :mad:

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Where's Sir Lancelot?

 

 

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Beyond tedious. Beginning to feel like some freaky species.  :mad:

are we becoming trendy do you think,  the societal  brown as  in "brown is the new black" . I wonder how many papers have been written. Is there an official "whoreology" degree. 

 

Now waiting for the following 

 

a…sti - medical trends in the sex industry

b... Parental relationships - mothers in the sex industry

c…Eating habits of sex workers- do they power breakfast or graze

c…Physical exercise within the sex industry- how does this work effect their bodies

d…Bunions- do sex workers suffer from more foot problems due to killer heels

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e...Shopping. What's the sex worker's preferred choice? Tesco, ASDA, Sainsburys, Morrisons, or Waitrose?

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The 'relationship' aspect has me thinking that perhaps a new soap will be written, around the lives of a variety of sex workers.

 

Got to be better than another dreary social documentary.

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Now then, I believe this thread requires a response

 

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it looks like a credible project so good luck to the OP

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are we becoming trendy do you think,  the societal  brown as  in "brown is the new black" . I wonder how many papers have been written. Is there an official "whoreology" degree. 

 

Now waiting for the following 

 

a…sti - medical trends in the sex industry

b... Parental relationships - mothers in the sex industry

c…Eating habits of sex workers- do they power breakfast or graze

c…Physical exercise within the sex industry- how does this work effect their bodies

d…Bunions- do sex workers suffer from more foot problems due to killer heels

PHD. in Whoreology would make a killer CV!

-W

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e...Shopping. What's the sex worker's preferred choice? Tesco, ASDA, Sainsburys, Morrisons, or Waitrose?

Surely M&S after a bit of S&M  :ph34r:  Not just any S&M M&S S&M ..... :wacko:

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Are sex workers normal people who live normal lives apart from their work ? Yes :)

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Surely M&S after a bit of S&M  :ph34r:  Not just any S&M M&S S&M ..... :wacko:

:D

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Wtf, another government shill with a government attitude thinking he's on first name terms with everyone.

 

Well Ryan it's Mister Bongo to you, and you are claiming as worthwhile pedigree some documentary-making form for BBC2 , a channel funded by compulsory licence fee extraction from people who have no formal say in how their money is spent, and lies to its viewers by saying things like "we are accountable to you".

The BBC whose licence fee is set by the State, charter is renewed by the State ( not the licence-payer ) and whose every single employee and contractor is appointed by someone who is appointed by someone who was appointed by the State.

 

The very same State that believes that laws should exist preventing adults who sell sexy times from discreetly share premises for the purpose of safety, practicality and companionship of the workers.

 

The very same State which funds the NHS to make us healthy and then spends billions subsidising landed rich people to produce sugars and fats that make us fat and unwell and are cheaper than they would be if it was left to the free market ( I saw the ones in Gt Ormond St with the sugar problems )

 

You can take your titillating doc and stick it in the bit of your State shill committee room where the sun doesn't shine.

 

Other than that, have a nice week.

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Wtf, another government shill with a government attitude thinking he's on first name terms with everyone.

 

Well Ryan it's Mister Bongo to you, and you are claiming as worthwhile pedigree some documentary-making form for BBC2 , a channel funded by compulsory licence fee extraction from people who have no formal say in how their money is spent, and lies to its viewers by saying things like "we are accountable to you".

The BBC whose licence fee is set by the State, charter is renewed by the State ( not the licence-payer ) and whose every single employee and contractor is appointed by someone who is appointed by someone who was appointed by the State.

 

The very same State that believes that laws should exist preventing adults who sell sexy times from discreetly share premises for the purpose of safety, practicality and companionship of the workers.

 

The very same State which funds the NHS to make us healthy and then spends billions subsidising landed rich people to produce sugars and fats that make us fat and unwell and are cheaper than they would be if it was left to the free market ( I saw the ones in Gt Ormond St with the sugar problems )

 

You can take your titillating doc and stick it in the bit of your State shill committee room where the sun doesn't shine.

 

Other than that, have a nice week.

The value of a site like this is that it leaves people free to express their own opinions, which may differ wildly. That is the case here between my view and that of Mr Bongo. He seems to confuse the fact that Mr Ryan is part of a supply process to BBC2 with the television channel itself. It's a bit like blaming Sage, or some software supplier, for the shortcomings in Tesco's accounting. He works for a company called Films of Record. I have taken the trouble to look at their website : They are a very respectable company founded in 1979, and their founder has received a BAFTA Lifetime Achievement Award for his work. They produce what appears to be well-researched films for various organisations. What Mr Ryan is doing is trying to do his research properly, and has come, in my opinion, to the right place to do it. We are all quick to condemn the badly informed who pontificate on their misinformed views on prostitution : now, we are in danger of criticising those who attempt to do the opposite.

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It just seems like "ask a ho" season to me thats all. I have no issue with people wanting to be better informed about this industry it just feels like every aspect of our existence is being put under a spotlight. To be honest there are far better subjects the guy could be doing on the sex industry than the subject of partners, he could be looking into why its still illegal for indies to work in pairs and just how important it is in terms of safety, he could be looking at the many ways escorts really work to prove we dont all stand on the street as per the usual information given, it could be looking at the statistics for sexualy transmitted diseases in the uk sex industry as a whole to show people that we are not the disease carriers that some still think we are, it could be looking at the real use of drugs by escorts who are not on the streets to show that we are in fact not a bunch of drug addicts which is what the public is lead to believe half the time. There are so many basic concepts about us within the sex industry that could be smashed before you go looking at the things about us outside of the industry.

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It just seems like "ask a ho" season to me thats all. I have no issue with people wanting to be better informed about this industry it just feels like every aspect of our existence is being put under a spotlight. To be honest there are far better subjects the guy could be doing on the sex industry than the subject of partners, he could be looking into why its still illegal for indies to work in pairs and just how important it is in terms of safety, he could be looking at the many ways escorts really work to prove we dont all stand on the street as per the usual information given, it could be looking at the statistics for sexualy transmitted diseases in the uk sex industry as a whole to show people that we are not the disease carriers that some still think we are, it could be looking at the real use of drugs by escorts who are not on the streets to show that we are in fact not a bunch of drug addicts which is what the public is lead to believe half the time. There are so many basic concepts about us within the sex industry that could be smashed before you go looking at the things about us outside of the industry.

I agree with you. But, at the same time, I think it is better for the topic of prostitution to be brought into the open, perhaps leading to the topics you are talking about, than to be swept under the carpet.The more open the discussion, the greater likelihood of reform.

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Imagine Tesco's dodgy accounting practices had been going on for 20+ years, and that Sage knew about this, and that Tesco was 2/3rds plus of Sage's income.

 

That's how in bed with each other the 'independent' production companies are with the State broadcasters. Checking out Films of Record, it looks like at least two-thirds of their output is bought by State broadcasters accountable to politicians. When they meet in committee and think about who will buy their output, they will be predominantly thinking about whether they can sell a project to one of the government bulls on the block, rather than to the viewers.

 

I agree that Roger Graef is one of the good guys, started in US theatre, then UK theatre, came to tv quite late - a very diverse bio.

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I note that they have a whole forum section dedicated to these kind of requests over on SAAFE

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You will find escorts:

 

1. with partners that know

2. with partners that don't know

3. without any partner

4. escorts that are married to ex-clients

 

Sometimes the partners are actively engaged, sometimes they are not. etc,etc

 

I found out the above during the course of normal bookings.

 

You won't find out how many of each group there really are, because you don't have the resources to do this.

The trouble is you can only find out things that are TOTALLY OBVIOUS.

That's why all this "social research" is pointless.

 

At a guess most escorts are normally married women.

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You will find escorts:

 

1. with partners that know

2. with partners that don't know

3. without any partner

4. escorts that are married to ex-clients

 

Sometimes the partners are actively engaged, sometimes they are not. etc,etc

 

I found out the above during the course of normal bookings.

 

You won't find out how many of each group there really are, because you don't have the resources to do this.

The trouble is you can only find out things that are TOTALLY OBVIOUS.

That's why all this "social research" is pointless.

 

At a guess most escorts are normally married women.

Too much guess work about wgs altogether in my view!  What makes you think the majority of wgs are married?

 

 Attempts to make clear the facts and reality do not seem to have come to much where telly progs are concerned..... making me wonder just what the researchers are actually doing.  The few of us voicing that we will not join up means little.... there are plenty of pros who will readily expose themselves (ignore pun). 

 

I agree with Chloe's comments above...... dispelling the myths and assumptions should be foremost.  It has failed over and over again.

 

With hardly an exception the last few documentaries aired on the subject of wgs/doms etc have only fuelled scorn and ridicule.... not the fault of those who have been willing to participate....... but the damned editing which is the thorn...... 

 

sincere intentions are in the minority when producers go forth and make these programmes.....  I have always believed they are mostly made to titillate and titillation draws viewers.

 

same old same old....... count me out.

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Exactly Lynn, more viewing figures generating yet nothing is given back to the industry but bad editing and ridicule. 

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Sounds like a ratings winner.........

Just because I'm a prostitute it does not been my personal life is any different to non WGs.

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You will find escorts:

 

1. with partners that know

2. with partners that don't know

3. without any partner

4. escorts that are married to ex-clients

 

Sometimes the partners are actively engaged, sometimes they are not. etc,etc

 

I found out the above during the course of normal bookings.

 

You won't find out how many of each group there really are, because you don't have the resources to do this.

The trouble is you can only find out things that are TOTALLY OBVIOUS.

That's why all this "social research" is pointless.

 

At a guess most escorts are normally married women.

I don't think most escorts are married women.  Some are but a lot are not or separated.  I always think if I had a partner and she was an escort yes perhaps at first I would accept it but after a while it would become boring like wanting to know how many escorts have partners! Who cares!  I hope tax payers BBC licence money isn't going to be wasted on such a documentary!!

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Am I the only one that thinks it's a wee bit dodgy that "Ryan" is creating a profile on here (presume with an email address) and then asking that we contact his female "colleague".

 

Why didn't Laura post the request and why wouldn't "Ryan" want us to mail him directly?

 

It could be that poor Laura is the victim of prank - being mailed by those naughty people (that's us folks) on that naughty site (this one).

 

CG

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Am I the only one that thinks it's a wee bit dodgy that "Ryan" is creating a profile on here (presume with an email address) and then asking that we contact his female "colleague".

 

Why didn't Laura post the request and why wouldn't "Ryan" want us to mail him directly?

 

It could be that poor Laura is the victim of prank - being mailed by those naughty people (that's us folks) on that naughty site (this one).

 

CG

 

 

I tried to leave a facetious comment about this at the start but maybe my humour was misunderstood.

 

I reckon it's some guy getting off on any info he could get from the forum women and 'Laura'? Ryan in a dress. Call me a cynic but.............

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