MisterLukey

Asking For An Agency's Girl Personal Number?

67 posts in this topic

Has anyone punted with an agency girl and during the meeting asked the wg for her direct number so future appointments can be made directly with her?  Is it a good idea or not the done thing?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd say most blokes have done this with agency girls.Some girls will agree some won't some worry the agency may find out and get funny about it.No real harm in asking her though.You could always just ask if she ever does private or indepedent bookings and see what she says.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd imagine it happens but would be frowned upon, certainly by the agency.

Says me who regularly sees an agency girl privately! ;) The difference being I knew her before she did agency work, and I don't see her on days when she is taking bookings through the agency.

If I was to see her on her agency days, I'd go via the agency so she didn't get into trouble.

A wg I saw about a year ago fell foul of an agency for doing precisely what you mention, and after she left and set herself up on AW, the agency pursued her mercilessly and constantly got her profiles shut down, and had several of their fanboys placing ghost bookings so they could leave her poor feedback comments. To this day, her profiles on AW now contain no pictures and very little about herself to try and avoid further problems with her profile.

All that said, there's no harm in asking, she'll either say yay or nay!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yup, have done this in the past with I think 3 agency escorts who came to visit me and partner for a threesome (he's a lucky man!) . I think 1 or 2 of them may have offered us their number first though but I do remember asking one if she did private bookings and she was happy to give us her number. 

 

Just ask. If they say no then no harm done, but I suspect they;d have to like you or trust you not to tell the agency. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Has anyone punted with an agency girl and during the meeting asked the wg for her direct number so future appointments can be made directly with her?  Is it a good idea or not the done thing?

What is your mobile number?

Mothers maiden name?

National Insurance number?

Don't want to answer?

Why?

Don't like being asked personal questions by a stranger.

Well. Touché!

Neither does the girl!

Look into the light!

P

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Has anyone punted with an agency girl and during the meeting asked the wg for her direct number so future appointments can be made directly with her?  Is it a good idea or not the done thing?

 

It's cheating, plain and simple!

 

  • The girl could quite correctly report you to the agency, and then they could quite rightly black-list you and pass your details to other agencies.

 

  • The girl could quite incorrectly accept your proposition. If the agency found out (e.g. she didn't answer her phone when she was supposedly available), then they could quite rightly black-list her and pass her details to other agencies.

 

Hopefully, using an agency saves you the time, hassle and potential disasters of booking an independent - and in my opinion it's taking the piss to bypass them.

 

Having said that, plenty of people happily cheat their way through life and get away with it. Me?....I'm one of the good guys in this respect and I use a great agency, but up to you....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's cheating, plain and simple!

.

I'm not sure it's as black and white as that though is it?

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't an agency wg classed as self employed?

Now say a punter books a girl, likes her and would like to see her again, but thought the agency service was lacking in some way. Maybe the premises were a bit grotty, whatever. Say this punter says to the wg that he'd really like to see her again but he won't use the agency so asks would she see him privately by visiting him at his home or hotel. Given that he's stated he won't use the agency again, and she's self employed, who exactly is she cheating?

If she was going around giving all agency customers a card with her phone number on and actively encouraging clients to see her and skip the agency then I'd agree it's cheating - but it isn't as clear cut as you seem to suggest.

My current situation is similar, the wg I see isn't cheating the agency out of anything as I wouldn't book through them. As long as she isn't seeing me when she's supposed to be seeing agency clients she's cheating nobody, and using her right as a 'self employed' worker to do business with whomever she chooses.

Edited by Burty
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not sure it's as black and white as that though is it?

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't an agency wg classed as self employed?

Now say a punter books a girl, likes her and would like to see her again, but thought the agency service was lacking in some way. Maybe the premises were a bit grotty, whatever. Say this punter says to the wg that he'd really like to see her again but he won't use the agency so asks would she see him privately by visiting him at his home or hotel. Given that he's stated he won't use the agency again, and she's self employed, who exactly is she cheating?

If she was going around giving all agency customers a card with her phone number on and actively encouraging clients to see her and skip the agency then I'd agree it's cheating - but it isn't as clear cut as you seem to suggest.

My current situation is similar, the wg I see isn't cheating the agency out of anything as I wouldn't book through them. As long as she isn't seeing me when she's supposed to be seeing agency clients she's cheating nobody, and using her right as a 'self employed' worker to do business with whomever she chooses.

But you did state the WG you see you started seeing her before she joined an agency.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's cheating but it could cause a lot of problems, I myself have never worked for an agency and never will but I have a fellow escort friend who does. Obviously with someone arranging her bookings and taking a cut out of her money she may be self employed but she is still in a way working for that agency owner.

It's her right to choose to see someone privately BUT I know if my friend did that and got found out it would cause a lot of trouble for her, like you said with the girl getting ghost bookings and bad feedback etc, all that kind of stuff would happen.

Someone else I knew who used to work for an agency and went indie decided to tour and book a hotel, the agency and it's girls decided to call her phone constantly and make fake bookings so she didn't make any money.

So in my opinion its probably best you keep to the arrangements you have to save the girl getting any problems if the find out, because in the end you're still going to see her and have fun with her right? :) x

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Has anyone punted with an agency girl and during the meeting asked the wg for her direct number so future appointments can be made directly with her?  Is it a good idea or not the done thing?

 

Yet it the girl does this all the time and with all the agencies she works with, she will get a bad reputation and no one will want to work with her.  She can always invest her money and energy in advertising around.  Is just like in any other business, if you think you are cleverer than your boss, open your own business and invest your own money.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Never asked, but it has happened regularly.

Takes a good amount of trust and the right circumstances.

The agency wont like it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

An agency is not your boss!You pay them commission to advertise you and take your phonecalls.They do not employ you.

In saying that if part of the terms are that you do not do indy work while being represented by them then they have every right to be annoyed if you take agency clients.

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't use that many agencies as prefer to use independents - however two agencies ladies I have seen have given me their private number so I can contact them outside of their agency time.

 

For me it is a sign of trust and confidence, which is both ways - their confidence and trust is well placed as would divulge to no one.

 

I have to say that I didn't ask for it or go looking for it - one lady wanted me to have it as she was thinking of moving on from the agency (in the end she didn't) but I know when she moves on I can contact her.

 

I just had a very time with the other lady and she just said if I wanted to contact her privately I could which I thought was very sweet of her.

 

What is said or shared in the room stays in the room! :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

+1

 

I asked for one escort's number and she gave it to me trusting that I would be as courteous as the first time I saw her and I had another good couple of punts with her after and she was just as happy not having to pay commission.

 

With another girl I met at a parlour years ago, I jokingly said on our second punt that we should see each other privately and she gave me her number quietly so the maid wouldn't hear us. She became my regular for at least 20 more punts since then.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's cheating, plain and simple!

 

  • The girl could quite correctly report you to the agency, and then they could quite rightly black-list you and pass your details to other agencies.

 

  • The girl could quite incorrectly accept your proposition. If the agency found out (e.g. she didn't answer her phone when she was supposedly available), then they could quite rightly black-list her and pass her details to other agencies.

 

Hopefully, using an agency saves you the time, hassle and potential disasters of booking an independent - and in my opinion it's taking the piss to bypass them.

 

Having said that, plenty of people happily cheat their way through life and get away with it. Me?....I'm one of the good guys in this respect and I use a great agency, but up to you....

 

And this thread has more than proved my observation!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i used to see a thai girl who wasn't on many sites.
one night i tried to book her and none of her agencies picked up
in 2 hours of calling.i ended up punting with a different thai girl whose agency
did pick up.
Anyway next time i booked her(which was another hassle btw) i moaned that
i had tried to book her previously...(see above)
She gave me her number and that was that.all future bookings were
direct(she got more money and i paid less = win win)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Never asked, but it has happened regularly.

Takes a good amount of trust and the right circumstances.

The agency wont like it.

 

I know girls who do it all the time and lie absolutely about everything in their life, blaming everyone for their misfortunes but never take responsibility.  I guess is a way of life which will never stop.........  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know girls who do it all the time and lie absolutely about everything in their life, blaming everyone for their misfortunes but never take responsibility.  I guess is a way of life which will never stop.........  

Which is another reason why you have to be very careful with these private arrangements.

 

If she offers it on first meeting, or even within 10min : Red Flag.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
She gave me her number and that was that.all future bookings were

direct(she got more money and i paid less = win win)

 

It's not win-win at all.  The agency lose out, and you may be smug about that but they do provide a service of sorts and a measure of protection for both parties and recourse if there is a problem.

The girl loses the trust of the agency, and also loses protection if the punter decides to pass her number on to other parties.

I'm not saying I haven't done it, and may well do it again, but it is not necessarily a win-win situation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are some more aspects to being employed by any agency that many people find, later into the contract. In effect many are like the zero hour contracts, which are now coming to light as being exploitative and restrictive and so on.

 

So its more to do with employment contracting law and procedures than anyone out to make life difficult for one another.

 

The agency can't really push their requirements, without appearing to have the qualities of a pimp.

 

The wg can't push her requirements without appearing to be wrong for the work.

 

All you can do is say you'd like to be a customer and see if she contacts you privately any other time.

Edited by oddbloke

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've come across quite a few independents who are all on agency websites.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are some more aspects to being employed by any agency that many people find, later into the contract. In effect many are like the zero hour contracts, which are now coming to light as being exploitative and restrictive and so on.

 

So its more to do with employment contracting law and procedures than anyone out to make life difficult for one another.

 

The agency can't really push their requirements, without appearing to have the qualities of a pimp.

 

The wg can't push her requirements without appearing to be wrong for the work.

 

All you can do is say you'd like to be a customer and see if she contacts you privately any other time.

 

This reminds me of a story I read years ago about some Thai girls who were brought in the UK by some guys fully knowing they will be working in flats or parlours.  The police 'saved them', yet what the girls did was to start doing straight away the same things as their English was bad, they were not educated, not employable and probably no other ambitions.  They were street wise though as they learned their ways around.  Interestingly none went back to their country and preferred to stay here illegally.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When I was with an agency I gave out my number once and regretted it. The client was texting me that night and then constantly texting me the next day. I was getting around 20 texts a day from him but didn't know how to politely say "stop" so I had to eventually say it in a non polite way and then never saw him again afterwards. I certainly wasn't worth the hassle at the time and taught me a bit of a lesson!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This reminds me of a story I read years ago about some Thai girls who were brought in the UK by some guys fully knowing they will be working in flats or parlours.  The police 'saved them', yet what the girls did was to start doing straight away the same things as their English was bad, they were not educated, not employable and probably no other ambitions.  They were street wise though as they learned their ways around.  Interestingly none went back to their country and preferred to stay here illegally.  

Well..............not quite sure why you are presenting that story, here's how it can also be presented......

 

so they were trafficked by a gang of pimps?

 

After the police had finished, the gang of pimps put them back to work?

 

They have been held more or less captive since?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well..............not quite sure why you are presenting that story, here's how it can also be presented......

 

so they were trafficked by a gang of pimps?

 

After the police had finished, the gang of pimps put them back to work?

 

They have been held more or less captive since?

 

Indeed negative interpretation seems to be favored by some members here (subconsciously giving us an insight into their brain functioning) but let's try the positive one: girls saved by the Police, pimps in prison, girls went back to what they were doing because they could not make the same money any other way.  Wouldn't you say this sounds more logic?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Indeed negative interpretation seems to be favored by some members here (subconsciously giving us an insight into their brain functioning) but let's try the positive one: girls saved by the Police, pimps in prison, girls went back to what they were doing because they could not make the same money any other way.  Wouldn't you say this sounds more logic?

It doesn't sound like they were agency workers, throughout it all, so I am not sure if the story has any element of that to it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now