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I still can't understand all this bloody fuss about any proposed legislation. Let's think how many laws are broken or ignored on a regular basis.

1. London phone box cards. I don't know if there was any actual legislation about this, but they were certainly going to clean them up and make every phone box card free. This was how many years ago? :eek: There are still more than ever in virtually every phone box in certain parts of central London. Probably the only thing people actually go into phone boxes for these days!

2. I was driving to work behind a slowish pain in the arse this morning and it was after several miles that I realised the guy was driving exactly to the varying speed limits. Just under forty, then just under thirty. Then we hit a fifty mile an hour stretch and he speeded up before dropping to just under thirty again exactly as we hit another thirty limit. Either he was a very law abiding motorist or he'd just received a speeding fine. Anyway it made me realise that I break the speed limits several times on my journey to work. And even more coming home! :D

3. Hands held mobile phones whilst driving. This happens so often the law (quite a valid one in my view) is an unenforced joke. One of the best I saw was last year whilst waiting to pull out at a busy junction when a woman coming the other way negotiated the tight corner turning towards me whilst talking on a hand held mobile in full view of many other waiting motorists. And amazingly she had a man in sitting next to her in the passanger seat who could have taken the call! She obviously didn't give a fuck who saw her blatantly breaking the law.

4. Fireworks aren't meant to be let off in a public place or after 11pm apart from certain nights. Well we all know how well those laws are being observed! Only last week some twats up my road were blatantly letting fireworks off in the street itself in front of their house. Obviously had some left over from Bonfire Night!

5. Hunting with dogs. Well anyone with half a brain knows that the sadistic wankers are still at it :rolleyes: Apparently and ironically the hunts are more popular than ever since the 'ban'.

6. Anyone remember the dangerous dogs hysteria years ago when I think the Tories were in power? They brought in laws about muzzling dogs. How many times do you see a dog walking around with a bloody muzzle no matter what the breed?

These are just a few examples of laws which are typically ignored, and there are many others; and the same will certainly happen with any proposed legislation prohibiting paying for sex.

Don't know about dangerous dogs, it's the bleedin' politicians that want muzzling :D

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I break the law every sunday by not practising archery.

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I break the law every sunday by not practising archery.

You don't listen to the omnibus edition?

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Driving with fog lights on, escpecially front ones, when it isn't foggy, I hate those people.

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I totally agree with you NIK, you have alot of valid points there, if it came down to it, we would all be breaking the law for some Minor offence or other.

Mind you, don't talk to me about speeding offences...........I've actually lost my licence before for speeding because it went over the "12" points and i've just got the worlds worst road rage!! ha ha :eek:

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I totally agree with you NIK, you have alot of valid points there, if it came down to it, we would all be breaking the law for some Minor offence or other.

Mind you, don't talk to me about speeding offences...........I've actually lost my licence before for speeding because it went over the "12" points and i've just got the worlds worst road rage!! ha ha :eek:

Did you know that if you hit a child at 35mph, you're more likely to kill them, than if you hit them at 30mph? Not clever, and not funny.

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You have a good point, and its not reached the books yet and may be so amended its worthless when it does. Since the government sets a lot of store by focus groups when they see the yahoo poll results for example they may conclude they're on a loser anyway.

Reemeber there will be one or 2 punters in the house at least that will know the truth and pick holes in it, as already happened in a previous foray by the anti lobby.

If its bad law it will be ignored, and that will include by the police.

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1. London phone box cards. I don't know if there was any actual legislation about this, but they were certainly going to clean them up and make every phone box card free. This was how many years ago? :eek: There are still more than ever in virtually every phone box in certain parts of central London. Probably the only thing people actually go into phone boxes for these days!

I thought they went in them to pee

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You have a good point, and its not reached the books yet and may be so amended its worthless when it does. Since the government sets a lot of store by focus groups when they see the yahoo poll results for example they may conclude they're on a loser anyway.

Reemeber there will be one or 2 punters in the house at least that will know the truth and pick holes in it, as already happened in a previous foray by the anti lobby.

If its bad law it will be ignored, and that will include by the police.

Same as the present laws are ignored, until the police want/need to act.

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I still can't understand all this bloody fuss about any proposed legislation. Let's think how many laws are broken or ignored on a regular basis.

1. London phone box cards. I don't know if there was any actual legislation about this, but they were certainly going to clean them up and make every phone box card free. This was how many years ago? :eek: There are still more than ever in virtually every phone box in certain parts of central London. Probably the only thing people actually go into phone boxes for these days!

2. I was driving to work behind a slowish pain in the arse this morning and it was after several miles that I realised the guy was driving exactly to the varying speed limits. Just under forty, then just under thirty. Then we hit a fifty mile an hour stretch and he speeded up before dropping to just under thirty again exactly as we hit another thirty limit. Either he was a very law abiding motorist or he'd just received a speeding fine. Anyway it made me realise that I break the speed limits several times on my journey to work. And even more coming home! :D

3. Hands held mobile phones whilst driving. This happens so often the law (quite a valid one in my view) is an unenforced joke. One of the best I saw was last year whilst waiting to pull out at a busy junction when a woman coming the other way negotiated the tight corner turning towards me whilst talking on a hand held mobile in full view of many other waiting motorists. And amazingly she had a man in sitting next to her in the passanger seat who could have taken the call! She obviously didn't give a fuck who saw her blatantly breaking the law.

4. Fireworks aren't meant to be let off in a public place or after 11pm apart from certain nights. Well we all know how well those laws are being observed! Only last week some twats up my road were blatantly letting fireworks off in the street itself in front of their house. Obviously had some left over from Bonfire Night!

5. Hunting with dogs. Well anyone with half a brain knows that the sadistic wankers are still at it :rolleyes: Apparently and ironically the hunts are more popular than ever since the 'ban'.

6. Anyone remember the dangerous dogs hysteria years ago when I think the Tories were in power? They brought in laws about muzzling dogs. How many times do you see a dog walking around with a bloody muzzle no matter what the breed?

These are just a few examples of laws which are typically ignored, and there are many others; and the same will certainly happen with any proposed legislation prohibiting paying for sex.

Don't know about dangerous dogs, it's the bleedin' politicians that want muzzling :D

The most visable sign of prostitution are street girls and the police cannot stop this even though they know where the girls and punters meet up and often have CCTV of the areas etc. If they cannot stop this how are they going to stop the more discreet forms of punting? I think these proposals will be watered down by the Lords and they will seriously start targeting kerb crawlers who will be cheap to catch, Soho walk-ups and visable Parlours, both of which will also take few police resources to close down. In my opinion Agencies will be checked out next and more discreet Parlours, leaving Independents as the hardest for the police to deal with.

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Did you know that if you hit a child at 35mph, you're more likely to kill them, than if you hit them at 30mph? Not clever, and not funny.

Do you know that if you ban legitimate local punters from local paid sex forums you get a bland, boring site with little useful information for punters :eek:

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I'm beginning to wonder if the new laws on prostitution are all part of the Government's masterplan of control of their subjects.

If you recall, there were noises from Westminster (and I dont mean MPs snoring) about a massive database to log emails, text messages, mobile phone calls, which web sites we've visited. etc, all part of the Big Bruvver thing.

Now add to this existing laws allow police to seize bank and credit card statements, and you have a number of the components needed to produce a prosecution for hiring an escort.

The fact that the lady is working of her own free will be irrelevant, they'll have the emails/texts that you booked her, details of your cash withdrawal or card payment to the agency.....

Your nicked. :eek:

Hypothetical, maybe, as we know the police dont have the resources to investigate burglaries, so may we ask how they will prove a case beyond reasonable doubt with no resources. It'll hit the streetgirls and sauna owners for sure, but will the next step be that Ms Smith orders all internet service providers to block access to sites like this, and other escort sites.

It's becoming more like Russia and China, where some web pages cannot be viewed, but is it all to deflect interest from the economic crisis?

Now I am just waiting for the first MP or some other high profile person to fall foul of the new law....

The sooner this Government is out of power, the better I'll like it. With so many CCTV cameras, these new laws, and now proposals on speeding, I've never felt my personal freedoms as stifled as they are now. It's so depressing.

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Thanx for your post Debbiexxx I actually had a ban a few years back now though, and am a pretty :eek: sensible driver. even though i'm sensible, it still doesn't stop me from getting road rage- which I use in a light term......and what I find most frustrating is slow drivers that are in front of you that are going below the speed limit, as NIK has already pointed out in his post. I find them to be a hazzard to the road.

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I was actually hit by a Drink Driver about 4 weeks ago- and I was in a built up area, not even doing 30 MPH, This car was coming towards me at a tremendous speed- hit the metro that was parked across the other side of the road and hit my front bonnet smashing my windscreen- didn't stop there, his car bounced off my car and hurled/ rolled over so the roof was on the middle of the road behind me- if you can picture it..I shackily got out my car just about, as the door wouldn't open- to watch the guy climb out of his reck of a car. There was 4 witnesses around- all on their phones ringing the police! and this guy, threw a can of larger across the road!! I approached him and he could hardly speak a word of English. Police arrived and did a breathaliser- failed straight away.

My car has been written off and i'm just so very lucky to be here...... nearly watched my life flash before me and any thing could of happened. If I hadn't of breaked in time, I would of felt the full impact of his car on top of me, as it wouldn't of just landed on my bonnet.

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I was actually hit by a Drink Driver about 4 weeks ago- and I was in a built up area, not even doing 30 MPH, This car was coming towards me at a tremendous speed- hit the metro that was parked across the other side of the road and hit my front bonnet smashing my windscreen- didn't stop there, his car bounced off my car and hurled/ rolled over so the roof was on the middle of the road behind me- if you can picture it..I shackily got out my car just about, as the door wouldn't open- to watch the guy climb out of his reck of a car. There was 4 witnesses around- all on their phones ringing the police! and this guy, threw a can of larger across the road!! I approached him and he could hardly speak a word of English. Police arrived and did a breathaliser- failed straight away.

My car has been written off and i'm just so very lucky to be here...... nearly watched my life flash before me and any thing could of happened. If I hadn't of breaked in time, I would of felt the full impact of his car on top of me, as it wouldn't of just landed on my bonnet.

How horrible ... natasha ... we were very lucky .. :eek:

I had a drunk driver hit my car head on coming up a one way street the wrong way... he got out to try and run away and was run over by a police car .... :D

justest was done ... :rolleyes:

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Omg James, that's not good!

Yes, i'm glad i'm still here- nice for some, horrible for others.......... ha ha :eek::)

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Did you know that if you hit a child at 35mph, you're more likely to kill them, than if you hit them at 30mph? Not clever, and not funny.

This is quite right. I was busted for speeding a couple of years ago, and opted for a speed awareness course instead of points. You learn some fairly horrific things about what happens to pedestrians as well as drivers and passengers when people break the speed limit even slightly.

Someone told me ages ago that the cure for speeding and bad driving in general, is to remove all drivers' seatbelts, and then to affix a large and very sharp spike in the centre of the steering wheel, pointing at the driver's chest. I think we'd find everyone would start driving around very gingerly at no more than 20 mph. There might be the odd case of self-mutilation, but we'd find road deaths a thing of the past.

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I still can't understand all this bloody fuss about any proposed legislation. Let's think how many laws are broken or ignored on a regular basis.

1. London phone box cards. I don't know if there was any actual legislation about this, but they were certainly going to clean them up and make every phone box card free. This was how many years ago? :eek: There are still more than ever in virtually every phone box in certain parts of central London. Probably the only thing people actually go into phone boxes for these days!

2. I was driving to work behind a slowish pain in the arse this morning and it was after several miles that I realised the guy was driving exactly to the varying speed limits. Just under forty, then just under thirty. Then we hit a fifty mile an hour stretch and he speeded up before dropping to just under thirty again exactly as we hit another thirty limit. Either he was a very law abiding motorist or he'd just received a speeding fine. Anyway it made me realise that I break the speed limits several times on my journey to work. And even more coming home! :D

3. Hands held mobile phones whilst driving. This happens so often the law (quite a valid one in my view) is an unenforced joke. One of the best I saw was last year whilst waiting to pull out at a busy junction when a woman coming the other way negotiated the tight corner turning towards me whilst talking on a hand held mobile in full view of many other waiting motorists. And amazingly she had a man in sitting next to her in the passanger seat who could have taken the call! She obviously didn't give a fuck who saw her blatantly breaking the law.

4. Fireworks aren't meant to be let off in a public place or after 11pm apart from certain nights. Well we all know how well those laws are being observed! Only last week some twats up my road were blatantly letting fireworks off in the street itself in front of their house. Obviously had some left over from Bonfire Night!

5. Hunting with dogs. Well anyone with half a brain knows that the sadistic wankers are still at it :rolleyes: Apparently and ironically the hunts are more popular than ever since the 'ban'.

6. Anyone remember the dangerous dogs hysteria years ago when I think the Tories were in power? They brought in laws about muzzling dogs. How many times do you see a dog walking around with a bloody muzzle no matter what the breed?

These are just a few examples of laws which are typically ignored, and there are many others; and the same will certainly happen with any proposed legislation prohibiting paying for sex.

Don't know about dangerous dogs, it's the bleedin' politicians that want muzzling :D

The difference here is the impact that getting caught would have on the "guilty" parties life. Getting what is effectively a sexual offence on your record even if you fought it all the way would reap havoc with your life in the way that getting caught for any of the list above wouldn't.

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Reemeber there will be one or 2 punters in the house

So few? (Parenthesis added to reach the necessary 10 characters)

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