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The General Election Will Be Pivotal For Sex Workers Rights

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An interesting article about politics and the possible decriminalisation of sex work.

http://prostitutescollective.net/2014/12/11/next-general-election-will-pivotal-sex-worker-rights-margaret-corvid

It also mentions how individuals and organisations came together to oppose Fiona Mactaggart's shifty attempt to slip the Nordic model in through the back door.

I'm staunchly opposed to the Nordic model and think sex work should be decriminalised and that what consenting adults get up to in private is not the state's business.

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An interesting article about politics and the possible decriminalisation of sex work.

http://prostitutescollective.net/2014/12/11/next-general-election-will-pivotal-sex-worker-rights-margaret-corvid

It also mentions how individuals and organisations came together to oppose Fiona Mactaggart's shifty attempt to slip the Nordic model in through the back door.

I'm staunchly opposed to the Nordic model and think sex work should be decriminalised and that what consenting adults get up to in private is not the state's business.

DG

if we want to keep this sort of bollocks off the statute book we mnust hope we dont get a labour government next year.  Because the poisonous harriet dromey will be thinking up new ways to harm our trade/hobby.  which is a bit rich seeing she is a paedophile apologist.

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if we want to keep this sort of bollocks off the statute book we mnust hope we dont get a labour government next year.  Because the poisonous harriet dromey will be thinking up new ways to harm our trade/hobby.  which is a bit rich seeing she is a paedophile apologist.

Agreed - but I can think of several other reasons (possibly more important ones) to hope we don't get a labour government next year.

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Great Thread DG. Thanks for giving that more publicity.

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Does anyone know the SNP's view on this subject ? They may well be the junior partner in a Labour / SNP coalition come next May. 

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Does anyone know the SNP's view on this subject ? They may well be the junior partner in a Labour / SNP coalition come next May. 

oh I bet the hoardes of scots who have deserted labour because of their cooperation with the hated tories on the referendum would be delighted with a lab/snp coalition.

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Since when have the views of the electors mattered when the politicians have got into power ? Since the majority of the scottish electorate voted to maintain the status quo then we may assume that some at least are Labour supporters and would be happy with a coalition.   In any event the response has not answered my question. What is the SNP's view on paying for sex  and would they seek to change the status quo ?  I am not sure if the powers devolved to Edinburgh following the recent referendum  would extend to this area  but perhaps one of our constitutional experts can advise ?    

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Since when have the views of the electors mattered when the politicians have got into power ? Since the majority of the scottish electorate voted to maintain the status quo then we may assume that some at least are Labour supporters and would be happy with a coalition.   In any event the response has not answered my question. What is the SNP's view on paying for sex  and would they seek to change the status quo ?  I am not sure if the powers devolved to Edinburgh following the recent referendum  would extend to this area  but perhaps one of our constitutional experts can advise ?    

i could not find any mention of paid sex or prostitution on their website...

 

I think minor parties will be wary of coalition seeing how it has very nearly destroyed the lib dems.

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Since when have the views of the electors mattered when the politicians have got into power ? Since the majority of the scottish electorate voted to maintain the status quo then we may assume that some at least are Labour supporters and would be happy with a coalition.   In any event the response has not answered my question. What is the SNP's view on paying for sex  and would they seek to change the status quo ?  I am not sure if the powers devolved to Edinburgh following the recent referendum  would extend to this area  but perhaps one of our constitutional experts can advise ?    

I'm not a constitutional expert :)  but criminal law is already devolved to the Scottish parliament. In fact in recent years there have been two attempts by Scottish Labour MSPs to pass legislation to criminalise the purchase of sexual services. Thankfully most SNP, Tory and LibDem MSPs voted against.

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THE SNP tend to take the line that prostitution is violence against women! If you have a coalition of Fake Socialists AKA The Labour party and The SNP than furthering the legal abuse of sex workers' rights will be high on the agenda!

Yvette Cooper, an Eejit likely to be your next home secretary, wanted to have a we must criminalize the punter part in her piece at the assholes annual conference this year and was prevailed upon to ditch it at the last minute! That's how serious this situation is!

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i could not find any mention of paid sex or prostitution on their website...

 

I think minor parties will be wary of coalition seeing how it has very nearly destroyed the lib dems.

Coalitions are the norm in the Irish Republic, with our Fake Socialists (The labour party) sucking the Fascist party's K*** together in government at the moment! And while their mandate is effectively long gone at this stage and they are considered unfit to govern, they will stick together until the last legal date possible! The history of our coalitions is that the smaller party (The Green a******* last time out, who coalesed with The Mafia party) gets destroyed!

BTW this Government of the a******* in The Republic, will have introduced criminalise the punter-destroy the sex worker laws in 2015!

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For what it's worth by June 1, 2015, the first part of the UK ever to criminalize the punter in a consenting adult heterosexual  sexual encounter, will already have it in place, Northern Ireland! And that's still a very much abnormal society!

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This is the way we are moving unfortunately... a much more authoritarian state. It's not a matter of if but when.

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It is said the 2015 General Election is possibly going to be another hung parliament. No one party will be in overall control with a majority. This could lead to a minority government, possibly Ed ( Lord help us) Milliband becoming Prime Minister through the back door with a minority Labour government. Possibly there will be another General Election straightaway if that's the case or another coalition but with who I don't know. What is apparent the SNP and Mr Alex Salmond see this as an opportunity to be kingmaker as he has made it clear he will possibly support a minority Labour government to demand much more for Scotland. Don't forget they actually lost the Referendum.

There are other small parties who will possibly try and be kingmaker UKIP, the Green Party, DUP, Plaid Cymru, etc.

I'm no campaigner for the Conservative Party but I do get annoyed at the Left wing biased BBC and some parts of the media.

We could have Harriet Har(person)man and Labour coming in with more Looney ideas, or we could keep the uninspiring Mr Cameron.

Not much of a choice but experiencing 13 years of champagne socialist Blair and Brown almost bankrupting Britain and increasing the population from 57 million to 64 million in just a few years without consulting the Britsh people, I think the so-called evil Tories are the lesser of two evils.

Anyway Harriet Har(person)man is widely acknowledged to be 'thick' as one journalist abruptly asked her in an interview.

As one man put it on Xmas decorations outside his house and was widely castigated by the liberal left wing who control Britain today is ....Can we have our country back..? What many average British people think.

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It is said the 2015 General Election is possibly going to be another hung parliament. No one party will be in overall control with a majority. This could lead to a minority government, possibly Ed ( Lord help us) Milliband becoming Prime Minister through the back door with a minority Labour government. Possibly there will be another General Election straightaway if that's the case or another coalition but with who I don't know. What is apparent the SNP and Mr Alex Salmond see this as an opportunity to be kingmaker as he has made it clear he will possibly support a minority Labour government to demand much more for Scotland. Don't forget they actually lost the Referendum.

There are other small parties who will possibly try and be kingmaker UKIP, the Green Party, DUP, Plaid Cymru, etc.

I'm no campaigner for the Conservative Party but I do get annoyed at the Left wing biased BBC and some parts of the media.

We could have Harriet Har(person)man and Labour coming in with more Looney ideas, or we could keep the uninspiring Mr Cameron.

Not much of a choice but experiencing 13 years of champagne socialist Blair and Brown almost bankrupting Britain and increasing the population from 57 million to 64 million in just a few years without consulting the Britsh people, I think the so-called evil Tories are the lesser of two evils.

Anyway Harriet Har(person)man is widely acknowledged to be 'thick' as one journalist abruptly asked her in an interview.

As one man put it on Xmas decorations outside his house and was widely castigated by the liberal left wing who control Britain today is ....Can we have our country back..? What many average British people think.

not sure liblabcon will sort it how you describe...

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I suspect the general election result will be a disappointment to many of you!

 

It seems inevitable that no one will get an outright majority, and whoever has most seats, the difference between Labour and Tory will be minimal. So who will form a coalition?

 

The DUP will side with the Tories and, despite their protestations to the contrary, I’m sure that if push came to shove, the Tories would also consider a deal with UKIP.

 

The SNP will side with Labour, as will Plaid Cymru, and, despite the current coalition, the Libdem's natural partners are also Labour. And don’t rule out Sinn Fein. They’ll certainly retain their seats, and despite their abstentionist stance, look at recent events. They sat in the Lords for Michael Higgins’ visit and shook the Queens hand. Their natural ally would also be Labour.

 

So my money’s on Mr. Millibean as our next prime minister!

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Now that prostitution  has now officially recognised as an important part of the economy it would make sense for the Government to encourage it. But when did a Government do something sensible?

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I suspect the general election result will be a disappointment to many of you!

 

It seems inevitable that no one will get an outright majority, and whoever has most seats, the difference between Labour and Tory will be minimal. So who will form a coalition?

 

The DUP will side with the Tories and, despite their protestations to the contrary, I’m sure that if push came to shove, the Tories would also consider a deal with UKIP.

 

The SNP will side with Labour, as will Plaid Cymru, and, despite the current coalition, the Libdem's natural partners are also Labour. And don’t rule out Sinn Fein. They’ll certainly retain their seats, and despite their abstentionist stance, look at recent events. They sat in the Lords for Michael Higgins’ visit and shook the Queens hand. Their natural ally would also be Labour.

 

So my money’s on Mr. Millibean as our next prime minister!

Oh no Lord help us all....!

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Go to liberal democrats website and search for prostitution. You will see a video of Sarah Noble speaking a lot of sense on this matter. Decriminalization, protecting sex workers, tackling HIV etc. Unfortunately this is an issue where the buyer and seller are both part of a silent minority. We wish to protect our anonymity and are therefore unlikely to question our local parliamentary candidates on their views.

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Oh no, not milliballs + harman. We do not need another Labour government anytime soon, especially under current shadow leadership. My fear is, push comes to shove that they might get back in, mainly because the Tories have just been too draconian with their welfare and financial policies.

 

My guess would be that should prostitution be made illegal, punters will just go elsewhere (Asia/Germany/Holland) or the industry will just become more underground. Potentially dangerous for workers and dangerous for punters too.

 

Odd though, as I'm sure the majority of male MPs all seem quite deviant and probably use the industry quite often!

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<<the majority of male MPs all seem quite deviant and probably use the industry quite often>>

 

Looking at the stories that are emerging now about multiple Paedophile rings, that are said to have been operating inside Westminster, it might have been far, far better if our MPs had been making much more use of the services of Working Girls.

 

Given what is now emerging, like slime from a swamp, I don't see how parliament can possibly debate, with any credibility, laws about consensual paid-for sex being illegal.

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<<the majority of male MPs all seem quite deviant and probably use the industry quite often>>

 

Looking at the stories that are emerging now about multiple Paedophile rings, that are said to have been operating inside Westminster, it might have been far, far better if our MPs had been making much more use of the services of Working Girls.

 

Given what is now emerging, like slime from a swamp, I don't see how parliament can possibly debate, with any credibility, laws about consensual paid-for sex being illegal.

Labour still have questions to answer about parliamentary party members being involved with the Paedophile information exchange (Mr & Mrs Dromey)

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<<the majority of male MPs all seem quite deviant and probably use the industry quite often>>

 

Looking at the stories that are emerging now about multiple Paedophile rings, that are said to have been operating inside Westminster, it might have been far, far better if our MPs had been making much more use of the services of Working Girls.

 

Given what is now emerging, like slime from a swamp, I don't see how parliament can possibly debate, with any credibility, laws about consensual paid-for sex being illegal.

 

 

Labour still have questions to answer about parliamentary party members being involved with the Paedophile information exchange (Mr & Mrs Dromey)

Does anybody remember the Marc Dutroux case from 1996. According to Wikipedia quote:"Throughout the trial, Dutroux continued to insist that he was part of a Europe-wide paedophile ring with accomplices among police officers, businessmen, doctors, and even high-level Belgian politicians."

I wouldn't be surprised if senior EU and Swedish politicians were (and probably are) involved in a paedophile and Satanic rituals. Hopefully these come to out in the open and discredit the Swedish Model.

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I very much doubt banning prostitution will ever happen in this country. Ok, there are some odd laws about brothels, but it'd be a very expensive nightmare for any government to legislate it all, let alone Police it properly. The Police are tied up enough (pardon pun).

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I very much doubt banning prostitution will ever happen in this country. Ok, there are some odd laws about brothels, but it'd be a very expensive nightmare for any government to legislate it all, let alone Police it properly. The Police are tied up enough (pardon pun).

The police hierarchy are spineless fools who are only interested in more money. The vast majority of politicians of any colour are obsessed with their Mandela moment so will spin out some silly law to enter the history books.

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