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I've had a couple of outcalls recently, which is not my usual MO. They were reasonably long bookings.

 

Both times, the WG has text me to say they have arrived. It has transpired afterwards that they started their 'timer' on their mobile at the same time as sending me the text. I've obviously only discovered this when their timer has gone off! One of them actually set it five minutes shorter than the booking time!

 

So as these were outcalls, and I was raised to be pretty polite, instead of directing them into the bedroom and starting as soon as they've walked in the door, I've offered a drink, a bit of introduction etc allowing them time to settle in a bit, and use of bathroom facilities, so action didn't start immediately of course.

 

From me receiving text, to anything actually happening, is at least 15 minutes. So I've effectively lost out both times by being polite.

 

Is this common practice to start the timer upon texting arrival? I thought this was rather harsh as both were long bookings. Not only harsh, but unfair. 

 

Should I not be polite, and jump on them as soon as the door is shut? Just wondering what others' experiences are like on Outcall timings.

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No it's not common practice.

I'm outcalls only at the moment and the time starts when we are in the bedroom together, I don't set a timer infact.

If they are setting their "timer" before they've even reached your house they are not providing you with the full service you paid for and are bad service providers.

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I'm surprised by that, probably 75% of my punts have been outcalls to my hotel and with one exception where we mutually agreed to end a bit of a rubbish booking, most of them have if anything over run on time. Certainly none ended before the wg had been in the room for the full length of the booking.

Granted a lot of my bookings have been with girls I've seen before who tend to be more relaxed about time anyway, but even on first meets I can't think of a single time I've been in any way short changed time wise.

In my opinion the time shouldn't start until the wg is in the room with you, anything outside of the room ie the wg arriving etc. is travel time which you are presumably paying for through her outcall rate.

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Setting a timer the client knows about is a bit rude IMO. And as Ebony said time def starts from when in the room not before! Travelling time is inclusive of the rate for the time you are together! 

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Thanks, starting from time in the room was what I was expecting tbh. One could argue I should have learned from the first experience, however I gave the 'benefit of the doubt'

 

The first wg i'm referring to actually showed me the countdown on her mobile with 55 minutes on the end of it when the subject of finishing time came up. 

 

I should stress, I'm not looking for overtime or free time of any sort. It just seemed inhuman to me not to give someone that chance to catch their breath after what could have been a significant journey. I have no interest in paying for chat, I get plenty for free in my personal life, no ulterior motive apart from like I say trying to be a bit polite and human. I would never knowingly pay for it, though understand lonely people might want to include this in a booking. 

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Setting a timer the client knows about is a bit rude IMO. And as Ebony said time def starts from when in the room not before! Travelling time is inclusive of the rate for the time you are together! 

 

I was about to reach my final conclusion when the timer/alarm went off, and that was that. When she left, I jumped on xhamster  :D

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I never had a girl texting me that she has arrived, whether indie or agency girl. Only once i got a call from the agency that the girl arrived 15 mins earlier and if it was ok to come up to my room. I said yes as i was ready and she stayed for 75 minutes.

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So what were the names of the two?

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Nope time should start when the service starts - for which she has to be with you. A text to say she is on her way is not the same as the booking starting.

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Nope time should start when the service starts - for which she has to be with you. A text to say she is on her way is not the same as the booking starting.

 

By service you mean once the lady is in the property and payment dealt with? Thats when I class it as starting. 

 

However...setting a timer is really not on. Its not something I ever have or ever would do. Its rude. If the girls were booked through and agency though then they would need to be ready to walk out the door when the hour clicks as finished, or the two hours or whatever. Agencies dont go in for giving free time and if a girl overstays then they will assume she has been paid for that extra time and expect a bigger cut which would leave the guy with extra time, the agency with extra money and the girl with less money than she would have gotten had she left on time and THAT is not fair. Plus of course, if you booked through an agency with a driver waiting outside do you really want to be caught mid thrust when her driver calls and says times up. She wont be hanging around to see which way your cock bobs, shell be off the cock and into her knickers faster than a racehorse out of the stocks.

 

If the ladies were indies though then as I said, no excuse whatsoever for that as they will have no one chasing them other than possibley a driver they employ personally..

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Althought I prefer to sort payment right at the start, it sometimes doesn't happen for a few minutes, a few weeks ago I had an outcall where we chatted for the first 25 minutes but we both knew the time had roughly started. On outcalls I fine much of the time payment is made within the first minute or so, if someone wants to stop the clock for the 30 seconds that takes, or the 60 seconds I take in the bathroom, well they can - a few minutes here and there is nothing.

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Reading some of the posts on various threads recently I feel many don't start their bookings until they've sat down, checked services, made payment, put it away.

 

I start from a greeting kiss and cuddle, if payment hasn't been made I'll request it and it'll be away in 30 seconds. As above if the guy wishes to stop his clock for that 30 seconds then he can, that feels a bit clinical to me but 30 seconds is neither here nor there for me. Whether it's incall or outcall my bookings tend to be interaction from the moment of arrival, if I go to fix a drink then that takes me a whole 60 seconds. That 60 seconds will probably be part of a natural few minutes overrun. Many guys are not bothered about accounting for a minute getting a glass of water. If I am running late/not ready the time starts from the moment I am ready and go give him my full attention, which starts with a kiss and a cuddle.

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99% certain both wgs were indy, and I saw them both pull up driving themselves.

 

I guess that's the difference in what my anticipation of when the booking begins to what Strawberry has outlined. For her the booking begins when she's walked through the door. For me, I expected time to start when the action is initiated.

 

If the gap is a minute or two, then clearly that's irrelevant.

 

The first girl took a shower, blah blah, came out, started fiddling around in her bag, wearing a towel that I had given her. Then she proceeded to ask me what I would like her to wear, and started laying stuff out on the bed! I just got the instinct this was 'clever' timewasting. So from the initial text, starting the countdown at that point, to finding my front door, initial hellos, offering a drink, offering my facilities, her taking a shower, showing me her wardrobe of underwear we're talking about 20 minutes had passed before I actually started getting some action. And the timer was started at 55 minutes. 

 

She was hot physically but a cold fish. Already asked me to turn the lights off, made very little eye contact. Had this weird position for a blow job which restricted me playing with her. Doesn't do 69s as she feels exposed. Anyway that's beside the point but pop 1 still happened quite quickly. I knew pop 2 was on the cards and I guess she was hoping pop 1 was going to be it. As pop 2 was on the cards I said casually I wonder how long I've left, looked at my phone said about half an hour, she looked at her phone and said 10 minutes! I was like I don't think so, and she showed me the countdown from 55 showing about 13 left. After an awkward 'debate', settled on about 20 which still shorted me, but luckily she was hot and pop 2 was easy even though I was waiting for the timer to go off.

 

it was only after she left I realised she must have started the 55 minute countdown at the same time as the 'I'm in your road' text.

 

To be honest, I hate all this calculating but on the other hand I'm not going to be mugged off either. 

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99% certain both wgs were indy, and I saw them both pull up driving themselves.

 

I guess that's the difference in what my anticipation of when the booking begins to what Strawberry has outlined. For her the booking begins when she's walked through the door. For me, I expected time to start when the action is initiated.

 

If the gap is a minute or two, then clearly that's irrelevant.

 

The first girl took a shower, blah blah, came out, started fiddling around in her bag, wearing a towel that I had given her. Then she proceeded to ask me what I would like her to wear, and started laying stuff out on the bed! I just got the instinct this was 'clever' timewasting. So from the initial text, starting the countdown at that point, to finding my front door, initial hellos, offering a drink, offering my facilities, her taking a shower, showing me her wardrobe of underwear we're talking about 20 minutes had passed before I actually started getting some action. And the timer was started at 55 minutes. 

 

She was hot physically but a cold fish. Already asked me to turn the lights off, made very little eye contact. Had this weird position for a blow job which restricted me playing with her. Doesn't do 69s as she feels exposed. Anyway that's beside the point but pop 1 still happened quite quickly. I knew pop 2 was on the cards and I guess she was hoping pop 1 was going to be it. As pop 2 was on the cards I said casually I wonder how long I've left, looked at my phone said about half an hour, she looked at her phone and said 10 minutes! I was like I don't think so, and she showed me the countdown from 55 showing about 13 left. After an awkward 'debate', settled on about 20 which still shorted me, but luckily she was hot and pop 2 was easy even though I was waiting for the timer to go off.

 

it was only after she left I realised she must have started the 55 minute countdown at the same time as the 'I'm in your road' text.

 

To be honest, I hate all this calculating but on the other hand I'm not going to be mugged off either. 

I arrive ready for action and that is when it starts, there is no time taken up showering and chosing clothes required. I am already freshly bathed or showered, and I'll already have sexy lingerie on underneath my dress. When lengthy travel is incurred I'll stop on the way for a freshen up. If I need the loo or to wash my hands on arrival, as already stated it only takes me 1 or 2 minutes, which is neither here nor there when I will be staying for at least the whole time booked. As far as I'm concerned there's no faffing about, it's the client's time.

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I arrive ready for action and that is when it starts, there is no time taken up showering and chosing clothes required. I am already freshly bathed or showered, and I'll already have sexy lingerie on underneath my dress. When lengthy travel is incurred I'll stop on the way for a freshen up. If I need the loo or to wash my hands on arrival, as already stated it only takes me 1 or 2 minutes, which is neither here nor there when I will be staying for at least the whole time booked. As far as I'm concerned there's no faffing about, it's the client's time.

 

I'd be happy and content with that  :)

 

The obvious issue I have is that I don't know in advance what your MO is going to be if I've never booked before. I presume you would always offer your visiting clients a shower, on their time. I'm offering a visiting WG a shower, but obviously expecting it to be on their time if accepted. 

 

I guess i just need to be upfront and bold, and as soon as they walk in ask would you like to start now, or get ready and start then. TBH if they've traveled significantly I'd prefer they took a shower :)

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I'd be happy and content with that  :)

 

The obvious issue I have is that I don't know in advance what your MO is going to be if I've never booked before. I presume you would always offer your visiting clients a shower, on their time. I'm offering a visiting WG a shower, but obviously expecting it to be on their time if accepted. 

 

I guess i just need to be upfront and bold, and as soon as they walk in ask would you like to start now, or get ready and start then. TBH if they've traveled significantly I'd prefer they took a shower :)

I rarely offer clients a shower - most are like me, already showered and I find overwashing as much a turn off as underwashing. It leaves skin rubbery and unpleasant. If someone asks then fine, sometimes I'll randomly offer one after but it's rarely taken up and once again a shower should only take a few minutes. Unless someone indicates otherwise once again I'll have already starting kissing, cuddling, I will follow them into the bathroom to assist further and it becomes a very smooth part of the booking. If someone goes in on their own and it gets to twenty minutes, then I don't expect to cover the whole 20 minutes - that has been their choice.

 

Basically I plan that a midday appointment starts at midday and ends shortly after 1pm, if I am late then it'll be ending however many minutes past that I was ready and engaging from, if we are early then it'll be roughly one hour (or whatever time booked) later that we finish. Many clients are also on timescales themselves, and don't appreciate being held up.

 

Generally most of this gets worked out in a sensible manner, starting the clock before arrival then spending 20 minutes showering and choosing clothing is definitely taking the P. They should either arrive ready for action, or not start until they are ready.

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I'd be happy and content with that  :)

 

The obvious issue I have is that I don't know in advance what your MO is going to be if I've never booked before. I presume you would always offer your visiting clients a shower, on their time. I'm offering a visiting WG a shower, but obviously expecting it to be on their time if accepted. 

 

I guess i just need to be upfront and bold, and as soon as they walk in ask would you like to start now, or get ready and start then. TBH if they've traveled significantly I'd prefer they took a shower :)

I'd not considered others would try and do anything else, wasting time isn't acceptable and it's also important to be giving the client your attention, it's not good customer service and if that doesn't bother you then not least for your own safety.

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I'd not considered others would try and do anything else, wasting time isn't acceptable and it's also important to be giving the client your attention, it's not good customer service and if that doesn't bother you then not least for your own safety.

 

I hadn't before these two outcalls, I'm glass half full when it comes to punting. But I'm not stupid either. 

 

I thought I'd get a flavour of the timing aspect of outcalls in others' experiences by starting this thread. Partly to see if I've just been unlucky, or to see if my expectancy was misplaced.

 

One thing I'm always self conscious about and aware of is the potential vulnerable position wgs put themselves in. Even if I think i'm being mugged off, I would never even hint at getting angry or losing my temper. Simply safe in the knowledge that there will be no repeat business from me. 

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I hadn't before these two outcalls, I'm glass half full when it comes to punting. But I'm not stupid either. 

 

I thought I'd get a flavour of the timing aspect of outcalls in others' experiences by starting this thread. Partly to see if I've just been unlucky, or to see if my expectancy was misplaced.

 

One thing I'm always self conscious about and aware of is the potential vulnerable position wgs put themselves in. Even if I think i'm being mugged off, I would never even hint at getting angry or losing my temper. Simply safe in the knowledge that there will be no repeat business from me. 

Yes I was thinking that they don't seem concerned about repeat business, and yes they certainly are vulnerable - both parties are.

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For me, I expected time to start when the action is initiated.

 

I'm sure I'm right in saying for most escorts the time begins when they've arrived at your place. It'd make things complicated for those who have security buddies if they were needing to keep informing them of changes to the expected finishing time. If you want an hour/ two hours/ however many hours of solid bang bang action and pounce on her as soon as she's walked through the door then you're probably going to have a rather crap time. Yes I know we're not being paid to make small talk, but surely both parties feel more comfortable with each other after even a short exchange of pleasantries? If I turned up to meet a client and he wanted to get straight down to it I'd leave as I'd find that very disrespectful. He may as well get one of those realistic prosthetic vaginas if he just wants to bang away.

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99% certain both wgs were indy, and I saw them both pull up driving themselves.

 

I guess that's the difference in what my anticipation of when the booking begins to what Strawberry has outlined. For her the booking begins when she's walked through the door. For me, I expected time to start when the action is initiated.

 

 

Why? If the lady is in your company and all her attention is on you and you are paying for her time. Whatever then occurs within that time is down to how you wish to proceed. If you offer her a glass of wine and a natter how is she supposed to know that you assume this is free time that you are expecting. Out calls really are no different to in calls, you pay for an hour, you get an hour, you pay for two hours, you get two hours. Of course as with in calls if you are getting on then its probably fairly common for some ladies to wander over the time a bit and stay longer pillow talking afterwards. Thats afterwards though. If you want to have a 25 minute chat at the start then you need to ask the lady before the booking if she offers a free intro chat before the hour starts. You can't complain if you pay for 2 hours then get 2 hours. If you are talking about a little 5 or ten min chat the most ladies I suspect wouldnt count that as part of the time but you cannot assume that. 

 

 

However, you shouldnt get LESS than the time you paid for either. 

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I never had a girl texting me that she has arrived, whether indie or agency girl. Only once i got a call from the agency that the girl arrived 15 mins earlier and if it was ok to come up to my room. I said yes as i was ready and she stayed for 75 minutes.

The agency I worked for insisted we did. We called the client once we were setting off (he knew the call was coming as was told when he booked) then once on his street and having located his property the driver would park back a bit and we would have to call again to let him know we had arrived and would be coming to the door now.Its more discreet that way, less time at the front door means less time for neighbours to notice you

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I've always assumed the time starts when the wg enters the room.

If on an outcall she arrives in "civvy" clothes and asks to go into the bathroom to change (which has happened to me), then I expect the time to start when she emerges from the bathroom. Same if she were to ask if she could take a shower (unless I was invited to take part ;) ).

If I asked her to take a shower, I'd expect that to come out of my time, providing she arrived looking clean and presentable (which has always been the case, even when the wg has gone to change beforehand).

I've also had wg's asking if they can take a shower afterwards before they leave - which has been after the paid for time.

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Crumbs, this is about as tricky and awkward as I was thinking then  :D

 

It almost seems a no win situation. Expect the action to start straight away, and WGs thinking like Jasmine would walk out  :o

 

Be nice, and polite (as I would normally be) and you might be paying for that from the moment she crosses the threshold. 

 

It might seem anal (pardon the pun of course) but I don't really want to be paying up to £5 a minute for chit chat, or listening to someone taking a shower in my bathroom. 

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Crumbs, this is about as tricky and awkward as I was thinking then  :D

 

It almost seems a no win situation. Expect the action to start straight away, and WGs thinking like Jasmine would walk out  :o

 

Be nice, and polite (as I would normally be) and you might be paying for that from the moment she crosses the threshold. 

 

It might seem anal (pardon the pun of course) but I don't really want to be paying up to £5 a minute for chit chat, or listening to someone taking a shower in my bathroom. 

.....or making a phone call to her agency to say she's arrived.

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