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The invisible men project on tumblr is still going it seems. In fact the proprietor has opened up a Canadian operation. So I thought it might be handy to post something general here on the issues of decriminalising prostitution, criminalising punters, etc. etc. for new readers who've come here after seeing the tumblr.

This is the latest in a series of ongoing bouts between prohibitionists and sex industry workers (referred to by opponents as "the pimp lobby.")

At ringside: VICE magazine.

http://www.vice.com/read/the-pimp-lobby-292?utm_source=vicetwitterus

Nice counter punching as ever by the English Collective of Prostitutes.

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Good article. Blundell and her cronies are completely unscrupulous and will alter any ‘facts’ to support their cause.

Of course I am against trafficking, as I would hope any right-minded person would be, but prohibition will simply hand the whole of the sex industry over to organised crime because they have the skills to circumvent the law.

 

There are a couple of items in the article that I would like to comment on. The narrative about the Nordic model is that selling sex is made legal. This may be true in the criminal sense (I am no expert on Swedish law), but apparently, according to WGs who have written about it, the civil penalties for WGs there are absolutely draconian. They can be thrown out of their home, even if they own it, they can have their children taken from them etc.

 

In the lead up to and during the London Olympics I did a survey of the girls advertising on AW, Ace Massage etc. This was not a very rigorous piece of social social-science research but what I found was that in the Olympic boroughs the number of girls advertising went DOWN. In the surrounding boroughs there was a very small (<3%) increase but that was less than the normal fluctuation. I went to several Olympic events and did not see any girls soliciting so where was this horde of WGs who were supposed to invade London? I am currently doing a similar exercise to see if prohibition in Northern Ireland will have any effect on the number of girls advertising there.

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Loving The Pimp Lobby twitter responses and profile... :D

 

Combating  lunacy...with hilarity

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Loving The Pimp Lobby twitter responses and profile... :D

 

Combating  lunacy...with hilarity

I like the tweet about the pimp lobby owing her a bloody mary.

I reckon this thread must be worth a couple of shots of P*ncer vodka. (It contains milk thistle! So it's a health drink :P)

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Good article. Blundell and her cronies are completely unscrupulous and will alter any ‘facts’ to support their cause.

Of course I am against trafficking, as I would hope any right-minded person would be, but prohibition will simply hand the whole of the sex industry over to organised crime because they have the skills to circumvent the law.

 

There are a couple of items in the article that I would like to comment on. The narrative about the Nordic model is that selling sex is made legal. This may be true in the criminal sense (I am no expert on Swedish law), but apparently, according to WGs who have written about it, the civil penalties for WGs there are absolutely draconian. They can be thrown out of their home, even if they own it, they can have their children taken from them etc.

 

In the lead up to and during the London Olympics I did a survey of the girls advertising on AW, Ace Massage etc. This was not a very rigorous piece of social social-science research but what I found was that in the Olympic boroughs the number of girls advertising went DOWN. In the surrounding boroughs there was a very small (<3%) increase but that was less than the normal fluctuation. I went to several Olympic events and did not see any girls soliciting so where was this horde of WGs who were supposed to invade London? I am currently doing a similar exercise to see if prohibition in Northern Ireland will have any effect on the number of girls advertising there.

Thanks for your post Dave. Apologies for replying late. Trafficking is mentioned in the "Know Your Rights" guide, in the English Collective of Prostitutes' website . There's a link to this in the VICE article. I'm on my mobile so can't copy the link as well as this text:

TRAFFICKING: Most people understand trafficking as bringing people into the country by force and coercing them to work.  Sex workers have helped victims escape but the laws make this harder.  It targets anyone who helps a person working in the sex industry come into the UK or move around within the UK – they don’t have to be forced.  So friends, especially immigrant people, can be convicted of trafficking even if they are just trying to help.

Of course a sex worker may be being pimped (e.g. if they're working via an escort agency or parlour ) without necessarily being/having being trafficked. In that case they're being exploited, in that someone else is making a profit out of their work. (Though that applies to all waged labour in a capitalist system obviously .)

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