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When the girl arrives to see me at the hotel I'm staying at, I carry out a few checks.  As soon as I see her, I immediately check she easily resembles her photos.  I have a quick chat within the first few minutes (before handing any money over) that all the services that were agreed at the time of booking are still available.  I also monitor her general attitude to make sure she's positive and wants to be there with me.  I also check she's not a physical threat.   

 

All the girls I've seen have passed the above.  But if a girl 'ever' failed my arrival checks, I would ask her to leave.  I feel the above is important for myself to avoid a shit meet and throwing away money!  You can do great research prior to booking, but if your not careful, it could all go to shit at the time of meeting.

 

Do any of you carry out checks of your own when the girl arrives?  Or do you not bother and take it as it is?

 

Would you ask a girl to leave if nessecerry?

 

For those of you who visit girls at their incall (I'd never meet at their incall), would you find it hassle to walk away if you weren't happy with the girl? 

 

To the girls, do you run any checks when meeting with a client?  Have you ever had to turn a client away?  If not would you, if you were unhappy with something that bothered you enough?

 

 

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When the girl arrives to see me at the hotel I'm staying at, I carry out a few checks.  As soon as I see her, I immediately check she easily resembles her photos.  I have a quick chat within the first few minutes (before handing any money over) that all the services that were agreed at the time of booking are still available.  I also monitor her general attitude to make sure she's positive and wants to be there with me.  I also check she's not a physical threat.   

 

All the girls I've seen have passed the above.  But if a girl 'ever' failed my arrival checks, I would ask her to leave.  I feel the above is important for myself to avoid a shit meet and throwing away money!  You can do great research prior to booking, but if your not careful, it could all go to shit at the time of meeting.

 

Do any of you carry out checks of your own when the girl arrives?  Or do you not bother and take it as it is?

 

Would you ask a girl to leave if nessecerry?

 

For those of you who visit girls at their incall (I'd never meet at their incall), would you find it hassle to walk away if you weren't happy with the girl? 

 

To the girls, do you run any checks when meeting with a client?  Have you ever had to turn a client away?  If not would you, if you were unhappy with something that bothered you enough?

 

I'm glad you take the time to know your girl and chat with her prior to handing over any money but when it's put into text it makes for a clinical read.

 

Any punter that 'takes it as it is' is just plain silly but I'm reasonably sure there that some out there do, either by nerves or not wanting to

cause a scene.

 

Other than the checking to make sure the pics match the girl to make sure they're who they say they are ( the girl ) most of what else you describe  such as services available can easily done by their website or via email prior to making a booking and although I can understand your reasoning for wanting to cross the T's and dot the i's  a Q&A prior to the clothes hitting the deck can be a bit of a dampener, one would hope you're tactful.

 

As for asking the girl to leave, for me personally and what is shown on my website (when released at the weekend) is that  any punter who isn't happy

with me when I first get there is welcome to discontinue the appt. I realise this may not appeal to some girls as their time has been wasted

but for me I am just as keen as the punter for them to be happy with what they see, if they're not then I really don't want to be there just as much as

they dont want me there and if this is the case then an early bath for me it is and with no offence taken. 

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I've sometimes seen this 'asking to check the services are available before handing money over' suggestion, but not one person has run such an interview with me, including someone who posts stating this is what they do with every woman they book.

 

Does it happen?I'd like to hear from ladies who do receive such an 'interview'.

 

To answer your questions, my website, profiles and booking procedure tends to filter out the clients I wish to see. I have never turned anyone away, but I did refuse an extension to someone who was drunk and stoned. I have also told two men that I was holding back on kissing because of the strength of alcohol and tobacco on their breath.

 

Most people who make it to an appointment are absolutely fine.

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I am another one who has never been asked if certain or indeed any services are available on initial meeting face to face.

 

As to the other question from the op.......

 

yes it is called giving someone the once over...... within a a couple of minutes I have a pretty good idea if he is ok.... regarding attitude/cleanliness and manners etc.....

 

I never take payment until I ask is he happy to stay...  so far no one has said nay.

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Yes for some reason I have stood there in my own bedroom clutching the money whilst the guy refuses to let go and starts asking me a list of questions that i have already answered at the time of booking and often more than once in between then and his arrival. Its tedious to say the least and if Im totally honest, makes me feel like telling them to keep their money and make their way out of the door.

 

Im not sure how many times some guys require the same answer to the same question before they accept its the truth but if someone is intent on not giving you what they have promised that wont change just because they are standing in front of you, if they will lie in an email then on the phone they will lie to your face too.

 

To be perfectly honest its quite insulting especially when that person then produces a stinky wotsit from his pants. Thankfully whenever asked for owo, cim etc I always tell them "so long as everything is clean and healthy". I sent one guy off to the bathroom the other day, he came back having washed the outside of his willy, unfortunately for him it wasnt the outside that was the problem. No doubt if he had been a money clutter he would now be calling me a liar despite his self cultivated cheese x

 

Sorry OP, not implying you are cheesy in the least x

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Yes for some reason I have stood there in my own bedroom clutching the money whilst the guy refuses to let go and starts asking me a list of questions that i have already answered at the time of booking and often more than once in between then and his arrival. Its tedious to say the least and if Im totally honest, makes me feel like telling them to keep their money and make their way out of the door.

 

Im not sure how many times some guys require the same answer to the same question before they accept its the truth but if someone is intent on not giving you what they have promised that wont change just because they are standing in front of you, if they will lie in an email then on the phone they will lie to your face too.

 

To be perfectly honest its quite insulting especially when that person then produces a stinky wotsit from his pants. Thankfully whenever asked for owo, cim etc I always tell them "so long as everything is clean and healthy". I sent one guy off to the bathroom the other day, he came back having washed the outside of his willy, unfortunately for him it wasnt the outside that was the problem. No doubt if he had been a money clutter he would now be calling me a liar despite his self cultivated cheese x

 

Sorry OP, not implying you are cheesy in the least x

Thanks Chloe ;)

 

Once we're both happy, I take another shower.  I do shower before she arrives, but I wouldn't want her to worry if I have or not, so I always tell the girls I'm going to take a shower to freshen up.  The problem with me is once I go in the shower I have to drag myself out lol! 

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I'm glad you take the time to know your girl and chat with her prior to handing over any money but when it's put into text it makes for a clinical read.

 

Any punter that 'takes it as it is' is just plain silly but I'm reasonably sure there that some out there do, either by nerves or not wanting to

cause a scene.

 

Other than the checking to make sure the pics match the girl to make sure they're who they say they are ( the girl ) most of what else you describe  such as services available can easily done by their website or via email prior to making a booking and although I can understand your reasoning for wanting to cross the T's and dot the i's  a Q&A prior to the clothes hitting the deck can be a bit of a dampener, one would hope you're tactful.

 

As for asking the girl to leave, for me personally and what is shown on my website (when released at the weekend) is that  any punter who isn't happy

with me when I first get there is welcome to discontinue the appt. I realise this may not appeal to some girls as their time has been wasted

but for me I am just as keen as the punter for them to be happy with what they see, if they're not then I really don't want to be there just as much as

they dont want me there and if this is the case then an early bath for me it is and with no offence taken. 

Thanks for your comments Emily!

 

I re-check (my must haves) the services are still available in a very 'polite' manner, as part of the friendly ice breaker chat.  If it sounds like an interrogation you'd put even those who genuinely wanted to give you what you like, completely off you!  So yes, I do handle this very carefully.

 

If they've got nothing to hide, they've no need to worry about being asked to leave and their 'time' being wasted.

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When the girl arrives to see me at the hotel I'm staying at, I carry out a few checks.  As soon as I see her, I immediately check she easily resembles her photos.  I have a quick chat within the first few minutes (before handing any money over) that all the services that were agreed at the time of booking are still available.  I also monitor her general attitude to make sure she's positive and wants to be there with me.  I also check she's not a physical threat.   

 

All the girls I've seen have passed the above.  But if a girl 'ever' failed my arrival checks, I would ask her to leave.  I feel the above is important for myself to avoid a shit meet and throwing away money!  You can do great research prior to booking, but if your not careful, it could all go to shit at the time of meeting.

 

Do any of you carry out checks of your own when the girl arrives?  Or do you not bother and take it as it is?

 

Would you ask a girl to leave if nessecerry?

 

For those of you who visit girls at their incall (I'd never meet at their incall), would you find it hassle to walk away if you weren't happy with the girl? 

 

To the girls, do you run any checks when meeting with a client?  Have you ever had to turn a client away?  If not would you, if you were unhappy with something that bothered you enough?

A fairly high percentage of punts have been outcalls to my hotel. After an unsatisfactory punt where the wg lied about not giving OWO (and that was before she'd had a chance to see whether I was 'clean' down below) - I then started to confirm what are essentials for me were available. I admit to not re-confirming before I hand over the cash, mainly because if the wg is going to tell lies about what we've agreed by text / email / telephone, then she'll lie to my face to get the cash, and then what?

Would I turn the wg away if she had obviously told porkies about her appearance or age? Absolutely. As I'd not confirmed services with the wg mentioned above, had handed over the cash and the meet had started, it became a little difficult after she said she didn't do OWO (despite what it said on her profile, field reports, feedback). We were about 40 minutes into a 2 hour punt - and I basically ended it there and then. I gave her the option of leaving straight away and keeping an hour's fee, or we could fumble our way awkwardly through the remainder of the 2 hours. She took option 1, which was fine by me :).

As regards checks made by a wg, not a single wg has made any checks I'm aware of as regards to whether I was at the hotel, nor did they contact anyone once they entered the room. That really surprised me, still does.

If an incall - as I mentioned on the age thread I'm not going to really know unless she's obviously significantly older than her profile, but if I wasn't happy with any aspect of how she looked vs her profile / info she gave me, I'd have no problems walking.

I'm not in the least concerned about a physical threat on an outcall to me, obviously I'm more alert on an incall with someone I've not seen before. I've not long got back from a punt with a wg I've seen a few times - the first time I saw her I walked from the corridor outside her apartment into total darkness when she opened the door! So I was more than ready in case anything happened, fortunately it was more a case of the light bulb in the hallway having blown! Not the best start to a punt though when you're prepared for a potential battle!

That's why I always prefer repeat visits. You know the wg better, you know you've had a good time and you know what she offers. If it's an incall to her place, you know where you're going (I hate going to a new place for the first time!), and you know there's no scam going on.

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Yeah, I frisk her for weapons, and hit her leg with a pin hammer to make sure its not wooden, ask her to cough and touch her toes; to make sure there's no trapped wind.

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Yeah, I frisk her for weapons, and hit her leg with a pin hammer to make sure its not wooden, ask her to cough and touch her toes; to make sure there's no trapped wind.

LOL

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Yes for some reason I have stood there in my own bedroom clutching the money whilst the guy refuses to let go and starts asking me a list of questions that i have already answered at the time of booking and often more than once in between then and his arrival. Its tedious to say the least and if Im totally honest, makes me feel like telling them to keep their money and make their way out of the door.

 

Im not sure how many times some guys require the same answer to the same question before they accept its the truth but if someone is intent on not giving you what they have promised that wont change just because they are standing in front of you, if they will lie in an email then on the phone they will lie to your face too.

 

To be perfectly honest its quite insulting especially when that person then produces a stinky wotsit from his pants. Thankfully whenever asked for owo, cim etc I always tell them "so long as everything is clean and healthy". I sent one guy off to the bathroom the other day, he came back having washed the outside of his willy, unfortunately for him it wasnt the outside that was the problem. No doubt if he had been a money clutter he would now be calling me a liar despite his self cultivated cheese x

 

Sorry OP, not implying you are cheesy in the least x

Ahh.A Primula man

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Yeah, I frisk her for weapons, and hit her leg with a pin hammer to make sure its not wooden, ask her to cough and touch her toes; to make sure there's no trapped wind.

 

Ha ha, I was thinking of something along the same lines, plus if the guy does not relax within several minutes and seems to perform the tasks described by BTD so mechanically, I surely ask him to leave.  I want to meet a happy, positive guy not somebody who thinks the universe runs against him.

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I don't think I have ever had someone who has listed the services he has asked for on arrival. That conversation usually happens in advance via the phone call or in an email. I think i'd be a bit thrown if he he started checking such things with me before handing over any money- I think I'd be offended that he hadn't taken my word for it when we originally read my website or made the booking. 

 

However, I suppose if it was done in a friendly way and considering all the stories one hears about escorts who don't do what they say they will I can sort of understand the double checking. 

 

Though I admit a man who takes his time to hand over the money does make me a tiny bit nervous, but that is based on the couple of dodgy experiences I have had with men who have tried to get away with not paying or have had less money than the required fee.

 

I guess the caution on the sides of both parties due to bad punters and bad escorts so maybe we should all be aware of what the other might be feeling or concerned about. 

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I don't think I've ever had to confirm what services I do in person, over the phone yes but never had that in person.

It's good to check though because you hear stories of women getting the money then changing their mind on what they're offering

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A fairly high percentage of punts have been outcalls to my hotel. After an unsatisfactory punt where the wg lied about not giving OWO (and that was before she'd had a chance to see whether I was 'clean' down below) - I then started to confirm what are essentials for me were available. I admit to not re-confirming before I hand over the cash, mainly because if the wg is going to tell lies about what we've agreed by text / email / telephone, then she'll lie to my face to get the cash, and then what?

Would I turn the wg away if she had obviously told porkies about her appearance or age? Absolutely. As I'd not confirmed services with the wg mentioned above, had handed over the cash and the meet had started, it became a little difficult after she said she didn't do OWO (despite what it said on her profile, field reports, feedback). We were about 40 minutes into a 2 hour punt - and I basically ended it there and then. I gave her the option of leaving straight away and keeping an hour's fee, or we could fumble our way awkwardly through the remainder of the 2 hours. She took option 1, which was fine by me :).

As regards checks made by a wg, not a single wg has made any checks I'm aware of as regards to whether I was at the hotel, nor did they contact anyone once they entered the room. That really surprised me, still does.

If an incall - as I mentioned on the age thread I'm not going to really know unless she's obviously significantly older than her profile, but if I wasn't happy with any aspect of how she looked vs her profile / info she gave me, I'd have no problems walking.

I'm not in the least concerned about a physical threat on an outcall to me, obviously I'm more alert on an incall with someone I've not seen before. I've not long got back from a punt with a wg I've seen a few times - the first time I saw her I walked from the corridor outside her apartment into total darkness when she opened the door! So I was more than ready in case anything happened, fortunately it was more a case of the light bulb in the hallway having blown! Not the best start to a punt though when you're prepared for a potential battle!

That's why I always prefer repeat visits. You know the wg better, you know you've had a good time and you know what she offers. If it's an incall to her place, you know where you're going (I hate going to a new place for the first time!), and you know there's no scam going on.

Pleased to hear you would turn a girl away, or walk away if at her incall, if she'd clearly lied about her looks or age.

 

Totally understand your OWO situation.  Once you've handed the money over, it would be at 'least' awkward to ask for you're money back.  As you said, it was on her profile that she gave OWO, and mentioned in her field reports.  It's an ideal example about 'lying' about services given.

 

Yes, you definitely need to be more 'aware' and ready to fight when visiting an incall, especially when going to see someone new.  When visiting 'known' dangerous areas or 'possible' dangerous places you need to be switched on for that too.  Like I said before, all my meets are outcall, so the risk is very low, but I'm prepared to fight just incase.   

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Pleased to hear you would turn a girl away, or walk away if at her incall, if she'd clearly lied about her looks or age.

 

Totally understand your OWO situation.  Once you've handed the money over, it would be at 'least' awkward to ask for you're money back.  As you said, it was on her profile that she gave OWO, and mentioned in her field reports.  It's an ideal example about 'lying' about services given.

 

Yes, you definitely need to be more 'aware' and ready to fight when visiting an incall, especially when going to see someone new.  When visiting 'known' dangerous areas or 'possible' dangerous places you need to be switched on for that too.  Like I said before, all my meets are outcall, so the risk is very low, but I'm prepared to fight just incase.

To be fair the incalls I've done have been on fairly well reported wg's so while it does pay to be aware of your surroundings I've never felt there would be any real issues. Even walking into a pitch black hallway wasn't a major issue. As regards outcalls I feel it's the wg who is potentially more at risk. She's basically walking into the unknown which is why I said I'm surprised by the apparent lack of security with some of the girls I've seen. They either arrived in their own cars, or public transport / taxi so it's not like they had a driver either.

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I don't think I have ever had someone who has listed the services he has asked for on arrival. That conversation usually happens in advance via the phone call or in an email. I think i'd be a bit thrown if he he started checking such things with me before handing over any money- I think I'd be offended that he hadn't taken my word for it when we originally read my website or made the booking. 

 

However, I suppose if it was done in a friendly way and considering all the stories one hears about escorts who don't do what they say they will I can sort of understand the double checking. 

 

Though I admit a man who takes his time to hand over the money does make me a tiny bit nervous, but that is based on the couple of dodgy experiences I have had with men who have tried to get away with not paying or have had less money than the required fee.

 

I guess the caution on the sides of both parties due to bad punters and bad escorts so maybe we should all be aware of what the other might be feeling or concerned about. 

I don't check services like that.  After a brief friendly chat, I'll say something (example) like "Is it ok with you if we start with some sensual kissing, then progress to body licking and then we can both take it from there?"  I don't see anything wrong with this, and I'll continue to use it.  I don't have many 'must' have services, but I do have a couple that are essential!

 

Never heard of anyone trying to get away with not paying before. 

 

I agree with caution on both sides.  Sensible monitoring on both sides 'should' help to avoid 'most' problems.

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Never heard of anyone trying to get away with not paying before. 

 

I presume that's because you're not an escort! 

 

Most escorts have experienced a dodgy client at some point. It's not uncommon for escorts to be attacked or treated badly so it's unhelpful when clients dismiss our nerves or security processes. 

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To be fair the incalls I've done have been on fairly well reported wg's so while it does pay to be aware of your surroundings I've never felt there would be any real issues. Even walking into a pitch black hallway wasn't a major issue. As regards outcalls I feel it's the wg who is potentially more at risk. She's basically walking into the unknown which is why I said I'm surprised by the apparent lack of security with some of the girls I've seen. They either arrived in their own cars, or public transport / taxi so it's not like they had a driver either.

I think as long as it's a hotel in a safe enough area, and they're switched on when they arrive, then the risk 'should' be low.  No guarantees of course.

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When the girl arrives to see me at the hotel I'm staying at, I carry out a few checks.  As soon as I see her, I immediately check she easily resembles her photos.  I have a quick chat within the first few minutes (before handing any money over) that all the services that were agreed at the time of booking are still available.  I also monitor her general attitude to make sure she's positive and wants to be there with me.  I also check she's not a physical threat. .......................  

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I always check their teeth as well. I use the Leighton method, but that can lead to a slapped face!.................

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I don't check services like that.  After a brief friendly chat, I'll say something (example) like "Is it ok with you if we start with some sensual kissing, then progress to body licking and then we can both take it from there?"  I don't see anything wrong with this, and I'll continue to use it.  I don't have many 'must' have services, but I do have a couple that are essential!

 

Never heard of anyone trying to get away with not paying before. 

 

I agree with caution on both sides.  Sensible monitoring on both sides 'should' help to avoid 'most' problems.

Really?It happens in every business.An example for you http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/11836139.Do_you_recognise_this_tattoo__Artist_needs_help_to_track_down_customer_who_ran_off_without_paying/?ref=mr This is why in industries where you can't recover the goods its standard to get the money in advance.

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I ask all my clients what their requirments and requests are during the phone call I insist on before a booking. If I don't offer or perform a service I tell them then and they can decide then to book or not. I don't mind if they make further enquiries at the begining of a booking if it makes them feel more secure. If they want to walk then they are more than welcome to. Also works the other way though and if they make me uncomfortable I will ask them to leave. I had one recently who booked over the phone we went through the booking procedure and agreed to time and duration. I then text him the post code and the time and cost. A while later he text back changing the time, then imediately another text cancelling so I text if he was cancelling the whole thing or the earlier appointment as it wasn't clear. He said the earlier app but could he have half hour, I declined and told him I dont do half hours. He said ok see you at such a time. He duly turned up got to the bedroom and said he only wanted half hour and only had that much money on him. I turned him round and politely walked him to the door., he continued to plead I do half an hour and why wouldn't I? I wouldn't because I don't.

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I don't check services like that.  After a brief friendly chat, I'll say something (example) like "Is it ok with you if we start with some sensual kissing, then progress to body licking and then we can both take it from there?"  I don't see anything wrong with this, and I'll continue to use it.  I don't have many 'must' have services, but I do have a couple that are essential!

 

Never heard of anyone trying to get away with not paying before. 

 

I agree with caution on both sides.  Sensible monitoring on both sides 'should' help to avoid 'most' problems.

I have heard plenty of such stories and SAAFE is full of them.

 

There are also tales of clients offering cheques, and a very notorious man who books outcalls with ladies who travel a fair distance, they arrive, he says he'll get the money from the back tomorrow he's also paid someone in fake £50s. When he does go to the bank he suddenly can't access his account. I've left counting the cash until the end to find it £20 short, another time I counted upfront the fee was £60 short. A long time ago I worked for a major utility company and people would try all sorts of tricks to avoid paying, make all sorts of promises and even repeatedly charge back their credit cards.

 

There are lots of scammers about.

 

I've also experienced an armed robbery which was set up as a client appointment. I never thought I would be targeted because I am one of those who does use banks, and who isn't afraid to ask the police for help. That was a huge lesson for me. Some years ago I was also burgled by someone thought to have known about my business, once again cash being the motivation.

 

In the last week two people have ignored my clear detailed directions, sent in type form, which are partly to aid my peace of mind, partly to help them find my place and so they can see where they are going. I don't know why they did this, both said they were nervous. Neither had actually thought there may be method behind my madness, and had not thought that there are people out there who are less than genuine and why should they.

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I don't think I have ever had someone who has listed the services he has asked for on arrival. That conversation usually happens in advance via the phone call or in an email. I think i'd be a bit thrown if he he started checking such things with me before handing over any money- I think I'd be offended that he hadn't taken my word for it when we originally read my website or made the booking. 

 

However, I suppose if it was done in a friendly way and considering all the stories one hears about escorts who don't do what they say they will I can sort of understand the double checking. 

 

Though I admit a man who takes his time to hand over the money does make me a tiny bit nervous, but that is based on the couple of dodgy experiences I have had with men who have tried to get away with not paying or have had less money than the required fee.

 

I guess the caution on the sides of both parties due to bad punters and bad escorts so maybe we should all be aware of what the other might be feeling or concerned about. 

I dont really class holding out the cash in outstretched hand then firming your grip on it when the lady (I) takes hold of it to receive it is a friendly gesture though in the first place so regardless of how amiable their expression or voice they are still being rude. I have my services listed on my website and aw, I make a point of not promising uncovered services in a booking unless they are clean and healthy so Im honest about that yet they still sometimes do the cash clutch, its so bizarre especially when I have so many reviews attesting to the services offered being given, I know not all guys read them but sometimes these guys have commented on my website and Ive got about 90% of my reviews linked from a review page on there. Maybe I dont have a trustworthy face? Ho hum, what can you do eh

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I dont really class holding out the cash in outstretched hand then firming your grip on it when the lady (I) takes hold of it to receive it is a friendly gesture though in the first place so regardless of how amiable their expression or voice they are still being rude. I have my services listed on my website and aw, I make a point of not promising uncovered services in a booking unless they are clean and healthy so Im honest about that yet they still sometimes do the cash clutch, its so bizarre especially when I have so many reviews attesting to the services offered being given, I know not all guys read them but sometimes these guys have commented on my website and Ive got about 90% of my reviews linked from a review page on there. Maybe I dont have a trustworthy face? Ho hum, what can you do eh

You seem to meet some very arguable guys CK. I rarely come across this. I do however have a distinct memory of a client a long time ago who booked without stipulating time, so I assumed he wanted his usual time and that is what he got. At the end he said "No I wanted that special shorter and reduced fee booking you once gave me". He pulled a wadge of notes from his wallet and slowly counted out the reduced fee, putting the remainder back into the wallet. He left the flat, I then looked at the clock and saw that we'd run over even the longer time. I immediately sent him a text asking him to not take advantage and put me in that position again. He then made a big thing about wanting to get £20 to me to make up for it. That became a lot of hassle as I he wanted to just 'pop by' with it at some random time and all the letter boxes where inside a security door. That was unacceptable because it might have interfered with other client appointments. He then started moaning about other bills he had to pay. In the end I told him I would not see him again. He'd also been pushing for bareback, and had been really difficult to arrange bookings with so no big loss.

 

It is interesting when a client counts out each note painfully as if giving sweets to a child. This isn't to be confused with clients who are checking that they are giving you the correct fee.

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