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Which do you think elicits the least respect from the general public?

The slag who sleeps around with lots of partners for whatever reasons, be it low self esteem or just that she likes the sex and variety. The wife of a swinging couple, who obviously has the consent and support of her spouse. Or the prostitute who knows her worth and charges men for the pleasure of her company and services. Or do they all have the disapproval of Joe Blogs and why? Who determind that any of them should be maligned.

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Why should they get anyone's disapproval?

Unless they are being forced into a life they object to, ie prostitution, they're are doing what they want, it's their life and up to them.

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Which do you think elicits the least respect from the general public?

The slag who sleeps around with lots of partners for whatever reasons, be it low self esteem or just that she likes the sex and variety. The wife of a swinging couple, who obviously has the consent and support of her spouse. Or the prostitute who knows her worth and charges men for the pleasure of her company and services. Or do they all have the disapproval of Joe Blogs and why? Who determind that any of them should be maligned.

Im sorry but why do you call a woman who has lots of sexual partners a slag? Is it not her right to share her body with whoever she wants to share it with just as men do without being referred to as a slag???

 

Im a bit shocked you used that word to be honest CC.

 

If you really want to know I think its US who probably receives the least respect from men who do look upon woman and attach labels to them.  The reason for this is how we have been historically portrayed in the media teamed with the fact that we hold equal power in the meeting as the men. Some men resent having to pay us or feel embarrassed so rather than look at themselves they chose to defer their resentment or guilt onto us.

 

I think your supposed "slags" probably dont get much more respect but if you question men of  misogynistic leaning you will no doubt here comments such as "well at least she isnt a prose"

 

All power to those women who know what they want sexually and are not afraid, plus have the confidence, to go out and seek what they need or want. They are certainly not slags, thats a societal insult designed to make women feel to guilty to fuck anyone other than her husband whilst the husband is free to fuck whoever the hell he wants and gets praise from his peers for his actions rather than the shame a woman would traditionally get from them. 

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Who really cares what joe bloggs thinks anyway, so long as he is polite and pays in full then, well...whatever 

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.....a subject dear to my heart....sexually pejorative words have been used since time immemorial to malign, ostracize, despise all kinds of sexually active women and men - 

 

I think the taboo society finds repellent and abhorrent is the notion of paying for sex, not so much having sex (swinger, slut, slag) - whereas I think a happy punter, is one who is at odds with the general public and society at large as they [we] are  entirely comfortable with the transactional element. 

 

....speaking as an adopted feminist - I am pretty sure pejorative and words that malign women are rooted in a patriarchal view and also [in my view] radical feminism who strangely are today rather like bed fellows singing off the same hymn sheet.

 

Have to say I rather like the word is 'whore' - it is a beautiful word - I don't like the more politically correct phrase 'sex worker' (to Orwellian) the one my money is in on 1000's years from now is Happiness Provider.

 

But hey society needs the fabric of hypocrisy and nothing is more hypocritical than that august body we know as the general public! :) 

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Our main form of judgement is the language we use. "Swinger" has positive associations, while I don't think any of the English words for a prostitute are really as pejorative as "slag".

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Im sorry but why do you call a woman who has lots of sexual partners a slag? Is it not her right to share her body with whoever she wants to share it with just as men do without being referred to as a slag???

 

Im a bit shocked you used that word to be honest CC.

 

If you really want to know I think its US who probably receives the least respect from men who do look upon woman and attach labels to them.  The reason for this is how we have been historically portrayed in the media teamed with the fact that we hold equal power in the meeting as the men. Some men resent having to pay us or feel embarrassed so rather than look at themselves they chose to defer their resentment or guilt onto us.

 

I think your supposed "slags" probably dont get much more respect but if you question men of  misogynistic leaning you will no doubt here comments such as "well at least she isnt a prose"

 

All power to those women who know what they want sexually and are not afraid, plus have the confidence, to go out and seek what they need or want. They are certainly not slags, thats a societal insult designed to make women feel to guilty to fuck anyone other than her husband whilst the husband is free to fuck whoever the hell he wants and gets praise from his peers for his actions rather than the shame a woman would traditionally get from them.

I chose the word "slag" because that is the derogotive term used by those who do malign such women. I could of used any of the terms used ie "slapper" "slut" or local bike. All of them are used to describe a woman who likes sex with multiple partners for whatever reason. Unlike her male counterpart who has no such derogotive terms to describe him. That is all, it's not my term for such women.

Yes indeed, all power to them, the whole point of the question is to ask who said there should be and why is there such negative and derogative attitude to women who enjoy sex with multiple partners, and which group of women are seen as the worse of the bunch.

I for one would like to know who these high and mighty people are.

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.....a subject dear to my heart....sexually pejorative words have been used since time immemorial to malign, ostracize, despise all kinds of sexually active women and men - 

 

I think the taboo society finds repellent and abhorrent is the notion of paying for sex, not so much having sex (swinger, slut, slag) - whereas I think a happy punter, is one who is at odds with the general public and society at large as they [we] are  entirely comfortable with the transactional element. 

 

....speaking as an adopted feminist - I am pretty sure pejorative and words that malign women are rooted in a patriarchal view and also [in my view] radical feminism who strangely are today rather like bed fellows singing off the same hymn sheet.

 

Have to say I rather like the word is 'whore' - it is a beautiful word - I don't like the more politically correct phrase 'sex worker' (to Orwellian) the one my money is in on 1000's years from now is Happiness Provider.

 

But hey society needs the fabric of hypocrisy and nothing is more hypocritical than that august body we know as the general public! :)

I like the word whore also and I like harlot.

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I like the word whore also and I like harlot.

.....I can only speak of the WG's I visit and whose fabulous company I enjoy, but I find they find the term 'whore' rather amusing and a little endearing...now of course, it is rarely used in an amusing or endearing way by society as a whole ..but I like playing around with it with the ladies I see, it is a laugh and joke, a kind of reclaiming the word for a kinder, gentler and more noble world which esteems the temple goddesses of old (ha ha ha).

 

As so your question - which is, of course, I think, a profound one: who are the high and mighty: well historically - men, the church (men), the state (men) who each in their turn invested heavily in social/sexual control - if you ever get a chance, read The Origins of Sex by Faramerz Dabhoiwala - it helped me understand who the 'high and mighty' were and why our pejorative language exists even today and made me glad to be well and truly in the gutter staring up at the stars! :)

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.....a subject dear to my heart....sexually pejorative words have been used since time immemorial to malign, ostracize, despise all kinds of sexually active women and men - 

 

I think the taboo society finds repellent and abhorrent is the notion of paying for sex, not so much having sex (swinger, slut, slag) - whereas I think a happy punter, is one who is at odds with the general public and society at large as they [we] are  entirely comfortable with the transactional element. 

 

....speaking as an adopted feminist - I am pretty sure pejorative and words that malign women are rooted in a patriarchal view and also [in my view] radical feminism who strangely are today rather like bed fellows singing off the same hymn sheet.

 

Have to say I rather like the word is 'whore' - it is a beautiful word - I don't like the more politically correct phrase 'sex worker' (to Orwellian) the one my money is in on 1000's years from now is Happiness Provider.

 

But hey society needs the fabric of hypocrisy and nothing is more hypocritical than that august body we know as the general public! :)

 

 

What you said.

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I think society marginalises sex workers and women who enjoy casual sex, but in different ways. Both are patriarchal mindsets and come from society wanting to control women's sexual behaviour, deeming women lesser if they don't remain pure and chaste.

 

However, I think they differ in that society is slowly becoming more accepting of women seeking casual sex (although the image of the slag/slut still remains), and feminism has done a lot of good in shifting this attitude. Mainstream feminism is still letting sex workers down, and it's sad to see us demonised by both anti-sex work feminists and right wing conservatives alike.

 

Interestingly though, I have seen fellow escorts look down on women who have casual sex (implying they're easy or give it out for free) which is bad, as I don't think anyone should be shamed for choosing what they want to do with their own body.

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Interestingly though, I have seen fellow escorts look down on women who have casual sex (implying they're easy or give it out for free) which is bad, as I don't think anyone should be shamed for choosing what they want to do with their own body.

 

Yes that is interesting particularly as I have known quite a few escorts over the years who came into it via the swinging scene.

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Im sorry but why do you call a woman who has lots of sexual partners a slag? Is it not her right to share her body with whoever she wants to share it with just as men do without being referred to as a slag???

 

All power to those women who know what they want sexually and are not afraid, plus have the confidence, to go out and seek what they need or want. They are certainly not slags, thats a societal insult designed to make women feel to guilty to fuck anyone other than her husband whilst the husband is free to fuck whoever the hell he wants and gets praise from his peers for his actions rather than the shame a woman would traditionally get from them. 

I think the reason it's apparently OK for guys to sleep with lots of partners but not for a girl is that there's a certain amount of truth in the saying:-

 

"women have sex when they want to, men have sex when they can"

 

Think about it for a second... on your typical night out, it's always the guy who has to start things and then escalate them (e.g. he has to approach the girl, get drinks, impress her with his chit chat.. banter.. and killer dance moves) At any point in that procedure, the girl can blow him out for whatever reason. Therefore the perception is if a guy gets loads of girls, it's because he's put in a lot of "graft" while  if a girl has a high number of partners, it's because she doesn't have particularly high standards.

 

For the record, it's not a thought I believe, I think it's anyone's right to do what they like with their body. I'm just trying to explain where guys who sleep around get covered in glory, while girls who do the same are covered in shame.

 

In answer to the original question, I would probably say the working girls get it the worst from society; simply because it's perceived as a profession rather than a hobby (if you get what I mean)

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In the good old days before the welfare state a woman who slept around would end up pregnant and un marriageable. Her parents would have to either look after her for the rest of their lives or throw her out. Promiscuity had a deadly price for women. This is probably why it was frowned on.

The people I most despise are the couples who breec like rabbits and expect the welfare state to pay.

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In the good old days before the welfare state a woman who slept around would end up pregnant and un marriageable. Her parents would have to either look after her for the rest of their lives or throw her out. Promiscuity had a deadly price for women. This is probably why it was frowned on.

The people I most despise are the couples who breec like rabbits and expect the welfare state to pay.

They annoy me too.  Some people think that the welfare state is the green light to to take no responsibility for their lives.  It's seems that they are right!

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What always has amazed me is what has already been pointed out many times above - that if a woman sleeps around she can get branded a slut/slag/slapper, whereas if a guy sleeps around he's a stud :mad:

 

Just like the terms chavs, benefit scrounger, bitch, etc, its one more reason for challenging and resisting societies imposed labeling of lifestyles and behaviours

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Some young women have low self esteem and think the only way they can be loved is by allowing any man to fuck them, who shows them attention. Slags, local bike etc........ Is how others determine and see them!

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Who cares what people think? Maybe prostitutes as its still a huge taboo in normal man circles

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Which do you think elicits the least respect from the general public?

The slag who sleeps around with lots of partners for whatever reasons, be it low self esteem or just that she likes the sex and variety. The wife of a swinging couple, who obviously has the consent and support of her spouse. Or the prostitute who knows her worth and charges men for the pleasure of her company and services. Or do they all have the disapproval of Joe Blogs and why? Who determind that any of them should be maligned.

 

I would say that the prostitute gets least respect from the general public, followed by the slag and then the swinger wife. I'm not saying that I think it's right, just that that's how the opinions stack up, in my opinion! It's down to their perceived place in the social order.

Prostitutes are the greatest threat to societal norms because they offer an easy and regular escape from the normal, run-of-the-mill societal restraints that most people accept. Prostitutes have made a clear, deliberate decision to do what they do and they continue to do it because it's a living. Slags do what they do randomly because they feel like it, so there's less of a clear intent, if you like, to kick over the traces; society takes the view: "Poor dear, she's a bit out of control but she'll come to her senses and grow out of it." The swinger wife does what she does within the framework of an agreed social structure, marriage, so even though she's going beyond the norms in her behaviour, she's still supporting the norms by being married and having her fun within that framework.

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Which do you think elicits the least respect from the general public?

The slag who sleeps around with lots of partners for whatever reasons, be it low self esteem or just that she likes the sex and variety. The wife of a swinging couple, who obviously has the consent and support of her spouse. Or the prostitute who knows her worth and charges men for the pleasure of her company and services. Or do they all have the disapproval of Joe Blogs and why? Who determind that any of them should be maligned.

Probably the slags 

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I hate the word prostitute,much prefer the term of "working girl ". Little ol softy me

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You ask who determined that any of them should be maligned. The answer is of course the churches with their patriarchal views. Prior to the introduction of Christianity, Anglo-Saxon society gave women equal rights with men.

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