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Has anyone any experience of being blackmailed and how did they deal with it ?

 

Sadly it seems be coming more common within the industry, a number of staff have fell victim to threats recently be it from disgruntled clients or boyfriends. Social media and the internet appear to make it difficult to remain anonymous nowadays leaving people open to threats / blackmail. 

 

Our advice is always to go straight to the police. However with so much to loose this is not always the best option for some girls.

 

Anyone have any constructive advice?

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I have no experience to back this up but the police have to be the serious option.  Of course it's easy for me to say.  My thinking is that the blackmailer is not likely to stop if rewarded and at some point they have to be dealt with so the sooner the better.

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Is the motive spite/revenge, or to attempt to extort money?

Keeping a log of events, and evidence where possible, is a good start. Then you can start to track if their behaviour changes and becomes more threatening or risky. It might show enough to assess how likely they are to follow through on the threats, or if it's just a cruel means of releasing anger.

Talking or confiding in someone you can trust can be a huge comfort. It can help to have someone to rationalise things and just knowing you're not facing it alone. There are also online forums and support groups that could be a good source of advice.

In any case, the best option is to report it to the police. Appreciate that in the industry that might not be easy, but they're entitled to the same level of support and protection regardless. Taking this action can also make the person doing the blackmailing stop and think that there could be consequences for them aswell. I guess the blackmailier tends to be more focused on the outcome of their victim, overlooking what could happen to themselves.

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Is the motive spite/revenge, or to attempt to extort money?

Keeping a log of events, and evidence where possible, is a good start. Then you can start to track if their behaviour changes and becomes more threatening or risky. It might show enough to assess how likely they are to follow through on the threats, or if it's just a cruel means of releasing anger.

Talking or confiding in someone you can trust can be a huge comfort. It can help to have someone to rationalise things and just knowing you're not facing it alone. There are also online forums and support groups that could be a good source of advice.

In any case, the best option is to report it to the police. Appreciate that in the industry that might not be easy, but they're entitled to the same level of support and protection regardless. Taking this action can also make the person doing the blackmailing stop and think that there could be consequences for them aswell. I guess the blackmailier tends to be more focused on the outcome of their victim, overlooking what could happen to themselves.

 

Good advice. I think your last sentence is very true and should give the victims some confidence in reporting such crimes, as at the end of the day that's what it is a crime. I think WG's are seen as easy prey due to their chosen profession, access to cash and the fact their loved ones are probably in the dark as to what they do.

 

One thing we have noticed is girls being tracked via social media and their real identities being found. It is a sad sign of the times that some people feel the need to extort money or other gains in such ways. 

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I agree with the suggestions made above. Harassment might be added to the complaint. When this has been discussed the outcome has usually been that the Police have responded and have exercised discretion. In some areas a reasonable rapport has been built up with officers in Vice, who might give advice.

 

I'm sure that you've had a browse in SAAFE to see if there are threads there (probably in the 'members only' parts) which might help.

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I did assume a financial motive, if it's spite/revenge I guess it would be trickier.  Someone after money would be reluctant to play their card soon and kill their Golden Goose, whereas the latter may not care one way or the other, especially if they are an upset former partner.

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I'm often surprised when after only a couple of meets wgs sometimes volunteer a snippet of personal information such as their real first name or the area where they live, not a good idea because even these seemingly trivial things could be used to find out more about you. I'm not trying to make you totally paranoid but make sure you know a client really well before giving anything away in small talk. Use a non-smart pay as you go phone as a work phone as well, our smart phones can be used to track us.

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I'm often surprised when after only a couple of meets wgs sometimes volunteer a snippet of personal information such as their real first name or the area where they live, not a good idea because even these seemingly trivial things could be used to find out more about you. I'm not trying to make you totally paranoid but make sure you know a client really well before giving anything away in small talk. Use a non-smart pay as you go phone as a work phone as well, our smart phones can be used to track us.

It's nice to be entrusted with personal info, but to be perfectly honest I'd rather it didn't happen at all. I know pretty much all there is to know about one wg in particular - full name, date of birth, where she lives, even family names etc. I don't flatter myself into thinking I'm the only person she's given personal info to, and while I know I'd never do anything to cause her problems, she might not. It only takes one idiot to put anyone she's ever confided in under suspicion and spoil things for everyone else.

As regards blackmail, the only real solution is to log everything that happens, retain any evidence you have and report it to the Police.

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It's nice to be entrusted with personal info, but to be perfectly honest I'd rather it didn't happen at all. I know pretty much all there is to know about one wg in particular - full name, date of birth, where she lives, even family names etc. I don't flatter myself into thinking I'm the only person she's given personal info to, and while I know I'd never do anything to cause her problems, she might not. It only takes one idiot to put anyone she's ever confided in under suspicion and spoil things for everyone else.

As regards blackmail, the only real solution is to log everything that happens, retain any evidence you have and report it to the Police.

 

Your probably right Burty and the best policy is to keep your working and personal life completely separate.

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Thank you all for your advice it is both welcome and reassuring. I am sure it will continue to happen, we and our staff just need to be street wise in regards to our private details. I must say we did involve the police recently when a client had filmed a girl without her consent and posted it online. They (the police) were very sympathetic and made arrests very quickly. 

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Has anyone any experience of being blackmailed and how did they deal with it ?

Sadly it seems be coming more common within the industry, a number of staff have fell victim to threats recently be it from disgruntled clients or boyfriends. Social media and the internet appear to make it difficult to remain anonymous nowadays leaving people open to threats / blackmail.

Our advice is always to go straight to the police. However with so much to loose this is not always the best option for some girls.

Anyone have any constructive advice?

I have.

When I first started out escorting I saw a certain client who was very polite and nice in our meets! But I got emails from an anonymous email daily telling me my full name, job at the time, address and where I study, I didn't occur to me it was him for ages.

Until I decided to make a fake email and pretend I was some random girl interested in him and asked him to send a pic, that's when I found out who it was.

I confronted him and he apologised profusely, but hoped I would still see him for bookings! I refused and then he started to blackmail told me I needed to meet him on a regular basis, give him everything he wanted even if I didn't want to do it, or he will post my private gallery pictures to my neighbours and to where I studied and also my job at the time, I stupidly had him pick me up from my home address twice and also told him my real name, and my study place didn't take him long to figure out the rest!

He did this to me for a year and a half straight, day in day out, he even waited outside my study place once in his car and texted me telling me exactly what I was wearing and what my hair was like. Scared the life out of me!

I eventually went to the police with a friend as she knows what I do, I had his car reg as he gave it me on our first ever meet so I knew which car he was in. Gave that information to the police and his full name and he was arrested. He had harassed, stalked and blackmailed me. Disgusting really.

All I can say is don't reply to them and don't rise to it, as that's what they want. Screenshot everything and write down times and dates when they've been in contact, it really helps to build up a file against them to take to the police.

I agree that people should go the police straight away as it can turn very nasty and it's pointless sitting around thinking about it and not telling anyone like I did! Many idiots think they can threaten and blackmail you and get away with it these days, don't let them! :)

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I have.

When I first started out escorting I saw a certain client who was very polite and nice in our meets! But I got emails from an anonymous email daily telling me my full name, job at the time, address and where I study, I didn't occur to me it was him for ages.

Until I decided to make a fake email and pretend I was some random girl interested in him and asked him to send a pic, that's when I found out who it was.

I confronted him and he apologies profusely, but hoped I would still see him for bookings! I refused and then he started to blackmail told me I needed to meet him on a regular basis, give him everything he wanted even if I didn't want to do it, or he will post my private gallery pictures to my neighbours and to where I studied and also my job at the time.

Wow, that was a disgusting individual. I hope he got what was coming to him. Also hope it didn't damage your personal life.

-W

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Wow, that was a disgusting individual. I hope he got what was coming to him. Also hope it didn't damage your personal life.

-W

He sure did!

No thankfully it didn't damage my personal profile, as I got to the police just in time I would say.

All he got round to doing was posting my face pictures on Craigslist saying I'm up for meets.

He never did fully follow through with his threats but he did stalk me when I was at my study place and mention my parents name and how he would tell them, I always wondered how he got so much information but I realised putting in my full name on google bought up who I was living with at the time on 192.com which is ridiculous! X

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The police take blackmail very seriously, and also harassment. There have been various cases in which they have protected the anonymity of the victim, and it's the only way to deal with this type of behaviour.

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again thank you all. 

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The police must be the first thing in your mind. There is absolutley no other option to consider. I havnt had anyone attempt to blackmail me but I have recieved threats from a couple of guys who messed me about then when I refused bookings they started to send threatening texts. Luckily for me they stopped as soon as I pointed out that if i went to the police it would be them in trouble for threats and harrassment and not me for escorting, which in their ignorance they assumed would scare me. If however they had continued to threaten then the next step  would have been to hand the phone numbers to the police and report them. If someone tried to blackmail me they wouldnt even get a response, it would be first stop the police. Its the only way to take the wind out of that sort of scum bags sails.

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The police must be the first thing in your mind. There is absolutley no other option to consider. I havnt had anyone attempt to blackmail me but I have recieved threats from a couple of guys who messed me about then when I refused bookings they started to send threatening texts. Luckily for me they stopped as soon as I pointed out that if i went to the police it would be them in trouble for threats and harrassment and not me for escorting, which in their ignorance they assumed would scare me. If however they had continued to threaten then the next step  would have been to hand the phone numbers to the police and report them. If someone tried to blackmail me they wouldnt even get a response, it would be first stop the police. Its the only way to take the wind out of that sort of scum bags sails.

I've had one blackmail threat many years ago, also harassment. On both occasions police took the situation seriously. Today some clever clogs has tried to suggest that if I do something for free he'll stop texting me. :huh: .

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I've had one blackmail threat many years ago, also harassment. On both occasions police took the situation seriously. Today some clever clogs has tried to suggest that if I do something for free he'll stop texting me. :huh: .

Activate block on phone, let him text away all day, you wont get them ;)

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Activate block on phone, let him text away all day, you wont get them ;)

That is what I was thinking. I was being helpful and polite, as I have been in the past with this particular potential client and obviously that isn't enough for him.

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Yep, police as quickly as possible because any such behaviour as described above can turn very nasty very quickly...you are dealing with unrational individuals who are capable of causing much harm, they also tend to have a warped sense of virtues...

Hope you can get all the issues resolved.

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Sorry re my waffle yesterday, just wanted to provide a mild example and it also shows that although experienced providers may be considered 'experienced' that doesn't mean we are not human, and do not have vulnerable moments.

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Sorry re my waffle yesterday, just wanted to provide a mild example and it also shows that although experienced providers may be considered 'experienced' that doesn't mean we are not human, and do not have vulnerable moments.

I didn't think you were waffling at all. Thing is, someone who is capable of what that guy you mentioned did could potentially go on to be more trouble further down the line. It isn't necessarily a matter of experience or anything else - as you said, we're all human and base each thing that happens on it's own merits. Sometimes, maybe most times, we get it right, others not so much! :)

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I have just discovered this thread and hopefully I can add a bit of advice having talked about this subject to my son who is a police officer. The conversation started after reading about a student who committed suicide after her other life as a WG was exposed by an extortionist.

He said that one thing guaranteed is that when a blackmailer gets his claws into a victim he never lets go which can lead to this sort of tragic outcome. So report to the police without delay, they do take it seriously and remember it is equally easy to trace the criminal as it was for him to find your identity. Remember also if you are worried about how you will be treated by what is still a male dominated service you can insist on being interviewed by a female officer.

The best cure though is prevention and I know it is easy to let slip details of your name and where you live in general chit chat and some of this low life can be very devious in extracting personal information. Best advice is to invent a shadow profile and always use it, if asked give a place where you lived say 10 years ago and a false name if asked for your real name. All this will make it much harder to trace your true details as the potential blackmailer will be looking in the wrong place.

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I'm often surprised when after only a couple of meets wgs sometimes volunteer a snippet of personal information such as their real first name or the area where they live, not a good idea because even these seemingly trivial things could be used to find out more about you. I'm not trying to make you totally paranoid but make sure you know a client really well before giving anything away in small talk. Use a non-smart pay as you go phone as a work phone as well, our smart phones can be used to track us.

Really?I could give you my first name and home town and i'm betting you still couldn't find me.Isn't it more likely that in this age of social media too many people are using the same email accounts for work and their social media sites(i'm talking wg's and punters here) which makes people very easy to track,especially with fb's lovely people you may know feature which even throws in people who have emailed you maybe once(I've had people i've bought stuff from ebay off of come up).Then you add the amount who post on said sites using a smart phone which tags your location.Anyone remember the case,last year i think it was where a woman was killed by her abusive ex who found her after a visiting friend tagged herself "in" on facebook.

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Really?I could give you my first name and home town and i'm betting you still couldn't find me.Isn't it more likely that in this age of social media too many people are using the same email accounts for work and their social media sites(i'm talking wg's and punters here) which makes people very easy to track,especially with fb's lovely people you may know feature which even throws in people who have emailed you maybe once(I've had people i've bought stuff from ebay off of come up).Then you add the amount who post on said sites using a smart phone which tags your location.Anyone remember the case,last year i think it was where a woman was killed by her abusive ex who found her after a visiting friend tagged herself "in" on facebook.

This happened to me, I only had to give my first name and home town to a stalker client and he found me in seconds. I have a VERY distinctive first name which probably only two other people in my town have (my name has various ways to spell it, the way my parents chose to spell mine is very very distinctive) so I'm easily found if I give out my first name. If I put my first name and town into Google, I'm found just like that, pictures and all! It's scary.

Facebook is way too easy to find people, that now when I am booking in new clients I will pop their number into Facebook as another security measure, I did this before with a guy who had sent me death and rape threats then tried to book me so it was a good thing to do... BUT it's a bugger for the "people you may know" feature!

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