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The Art Of The Gfe

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My needs and desires vary as a punter, sometimes I just want a good fuck on other occasions I'm feeling lazy and all I really want is a nice BJ but I am a big fan of the GFE and when that's combined with more adventurous services like DT and CIM then it becomes what I call an RSE (Real Sexual Experience) the nearest payed sex can ever get to sex with a partner but this does rely on the GFE being very convincing and I have not met that many who can take it to such a level that you almost believe they really are your girlfriend for that hour or two.

 

I've often wondered how they do it and tried to imagine if I could, no I don't mean I've fantasised about being a woman and getting shagged I mean if I were a male escort offering a BFE could I do it with just anyone who walked through the door and the answer is probably not.

 

So how's it done, I assume before they get into this they have thought about it and even looked at the market their aiming for, a reasonable amount of acting ability is required I should think but beyond that is it just a case of keeping your mind on the money and knowing that if you deliver consistently your name and reputation will grow as hopefully will your income or is there more to it than that, could any wg do it if they put their mind to it or do you have to be wired in a certain way to offer this service and do it convincingly.

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I kind of feel its a made up term. Its basically just shagging with a bit of kissing, some may be a bit more sensual than others but i think thats down to her mood/personality. If youre lucky you may get a cuddle without having to ask but im not sure you can define an hour gfe versus an hour vanilla.

Ive never had a gfe where ive genuinly fallen for the fantasy that she is my girlfriend, its always just shagging a prostitute.

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I don't think it pays to try and second guess how the wg feels about it all, however some are really good at creating the girlfriend illusion.

I did touch on the subject with the wg I got to know well and she maintained as long as the right buttons were pressed - ie clean, polite, friendly etc., she didn't actually need to pretend too much and she generally found something she liked about most guys she saw. Then again she wouldn't think twice about throwing someone out if there was anything she didn't like the look of! The most important thing to me is that I'm left with the impression that she is comfortable with me and isn't hating being there. It's the main reason I prefer to see indies and regulars as firstly they've made the choice about whom they see based on their communications and if they really were unhappy about something it's probably easier for them to decline a subsequent booking than it would be for an agency wg.

GFE's are to a great extent "vanilla" but you both have to buy into the illusion for a GFE to work - if you go into the booking with the view of "I'm just shagging a prostitute" then no matter how good she is then that's how it'll feel. The other key thing is to always remember it is just an experience or illusion which ends when you leave.

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My needs and desires vary as a punter, sometimes I just want a good fuck on other occasions I'm feeling lazy and all I really want is a nice BJ but I am a big fan of the GFE and when that's combined with more adventurous services like DT and CIM then it becomes what I call an RSE (Real Sexual Experience) the nearest payed sex can ever get to sex with a partner but this does rely on the GFE being very convincing and I have not met that many who can take it to such a level that you almost believe they really are your girlfriend for that hour or two.

 

I've often wondered how they do it and tried to imagine if I could, no I don't mean I've fantasised about being a woman and getting shagged I mean if I were a male escort offering a BFE could I do it with just anyone who walked through the door and the answer is probably not.

 

So how's it done, I assume before they get into this they have thought about it and even looked at the market their aiming for, a reasonable amount of acting ability is required I should think but beyond that is it just a case of keeping your mind on the money and knowing that if you deliver consistently your name and reputation will grow as hopefully will your income or is there more to it than that, could any wg do it if they put their mind to it or do you have to be wired in a certain way to offer this service and do it convincingly.

I dont see how adding certain services can make a GFE closer to a real sexual experience unless its a drunken fuck with a random when you go all out because you are in the mood. Sex with an actual partner cannot be imitated by adding a bit of deep throat or CIM because its not about what you are doing its about who you are doing it with plus just because you lvoe someone doesnt mean you will automatically take a mouthfull from them. Plenty of men I have met have never had CIM in their relationships, sometimes not even a blow job.

 

I think people forget that whilst some people visit us because they no longer get the wonderful sex they used to have with their partner, others visit us because they never have had wonderful sex with their partner and the GFE we provide is what they always imagined it was supposed to be but wasnt.

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I think people forget that whilst some people visit us because they no longer get the wonderful sex they used to have with their partner, others visit us because they never have had wonderful sex with their partner and the GFE we provide is what they always imagined it was supposed to be but wasnt.

 

And some will be enjoying regular and good sex with their partner but simply enjoy the diverse additional experiences that punting has to offer........

 

I'd hazard a guess that there are as many different views about what the ideal experience should comprise as there are punters (and providers, actually).

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I kind of feel its a made up term. Its basically just shagging with a bit of kissing, some may be a bit more sensual than others but i think thats down to her mood/personality. If youre lucky you may get a cuddle without having to ask but im not sure you can define an hour gfe versus an hour vanilla.

Ive never had a gfe where ive genuinly fallen for the fantasy that she is my girlfriend, its always just shagging a prostitute.

 

I emphasis I've seen very few who can do it convincingly and your right in most cases "GFE" turns out to be just a vanilla punt.

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I don't think it pays to try and second guess how the wg feels about it all, however some are really good at creating the girlfriend illusion.

I did touch on the subject with the wg I got to know well and she maintained as long as the right buttons were pressed - ie clean, polite, friendly etc., she didn't actually need to pretend too much and she generally found something she liked about most guys she saw. Then again she wouldn't think twice about throwing someone out if there was anything she didn't like the look of! The most important thing to me is that I'm left with the impression that she is comfortable with me and isn't hating being there. It's the main reason I prefer to see indies and regulars as firstly they've made the choice about whom they see based on their communications and if they really were unhappy about something it's probably easier for them to decline a subsequent booking than it would be for an agency wg.

GFE's are to a great extent "vanilla" but you both have to buy into the illusion for a GFE to work - if you go into the booking with the view of "I'm just shagging a prostitute" then no matter how good she is then that's how it'll feel. The other key thing is to always remember it is just an experience or illusion which ends when you leave.

 

I take your point about both parties buying into the illusion, very important.

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And some will be enjoying regular and good sex with their partner but simply enjoy the diverse additional experiences that punting has to offer........

 

I'd hazard a guess that there are as many different views about what the ideal experience should comprise as there are punters (and providers, actually).

 

Perhaps I'm talking about my ideal experience.

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And some will be enjoying regular and good sex with their partner but simply enjoy the diverse additional experiences that punting has to offer........

 

I'd hazard a guess that there are as many different views about what the ideal experience should comprise as there are punters (and providers, actually).

Very true

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I emphasis I've seen very few who can do it convincingly and your right in most cases "GFE" turns out to be just a vanilla punt.

Well you have to remember that everyone is different in the sack, one girl offering what you term as a vanilla punt as a GFE may be how she actually really is in the sack. Your version of what its like to be with a girlfriend is not the right or wrong way, its just your way and your expectations to have a real personal feeling GFE you have to be with someone you actually click with and that is  never guaranteed over the phone, chemistry is a bonus not a promis

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I take your point about both parties buying into the illusion, very important.

... that ultimately the GFE has to be met with a willingness by the client to behave as a BFE?

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Very odd.I would say the gfe is all about the personality and not the actual services rendered.It's about the time spent,how it makes you feel etc.For me the perfect gfe leaves you feeling very relaxed,but it does need to be with someone you can communicate with well.To say adding certain services makes it more "real"just doesnt make sense.Are there certain services that that define "real" sex?Have a feeling not.If things like cim and deepthroat were standard in "relationship2 sex i have a feeling there may be fewer punters out there :)

To be fair,it does seem in some cases that as stated gfe just means a standard punt with no frills,however there are some great exponents of the gfe out there and after you've met one of those,well its a whole nother level.

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The GFE suits me as that is me as a person and that is what you get, nothing else... It is probably considered vanilla by many (though some years back it was adventurous offering OWO and French Kissing) but if I was to start all the pretending to head into the PSE experience, then for me this job would no longer be enjoyable as it is just not something I feel comfortable with (acting and doing the extra services which I would not do in my personal life either). 

 

And as Pickle said, the GFE can really only work properly if the client meets you halfway. 

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Of course the style of the meet and the services I enjoy may not be everyone's idea of a perfect punt or everyone's idea of perfect sex generally I accept that. I hadn't really ever considered my part in the GFE but yes I suppose it's obvious when you think about it. I've never really been sure about the term "click" as I feel I'm paying for a service should that be necessary, and when I say I've only met a few women who can deliver a perfect GFE they do this consistently and not just for me and I doubt they "click" with everyone who walks through the door, and although we usually relate GFE with vanilla services I've met women who are perfectly happy to give me a DTBJ with CIM but are reluctant to kiss let alone DFK so for me someone who can be pretty convincing with all the intimate stuff is just as appealing as someone with a more extensive likes list, and a combination of the two is perfect.

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For me there are 2 services which are essential in a successful GFE - kissing and cuddling. The intimate touching between us helps to move the encounter to another level to such an extent that its not essential to me whether actual fucking happens or not. I also expect sensual OWO and RO and in my experience that's a given, but these are also guaranteed in non-GFE encounters as well. Beyond that, its also about how our personalities as well as our bodies intertwine together

 

I get great joy holding a beautiful WG close and just chatting, sharing thoughts, experiences and laughs together. This usually happens between rounds 1 & 2 (as well as at the end) and in my experience that intimacy helps make the meeting all the more special

 

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All my paid for experiences have varied whether they were called GFE or whatever.  The one thing they all had in common was not actually being a girl friend experience even though at times I lost sight of that.  The term is so vague and can mean so much and so little,  I guess vanilla punt is nearer than anything.

 

Sometimes afterwards I've though "that was so convincing, how can they turn that on with a complete stranger?" but always accepting that it was what it was.  Since I'll never be able to see into the mind of a WG I'll settle for having a damn good time and a lot of fun.

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My favourite is the 'kinky' GFE!  I find a standard GFE boring, and all I get out of PSE is a bit of fun at most.  My kinky GFE mixes the lovers experience with lots of open minded fetish play.

 

I don't know how these girls do it, but from what I've seen, the girls I've played with are sexually confident, highly skilled and they are fully aware of their 'power' in the bedroom.  I fucking love it!

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L&S, Robert and Btd I think you all make some very good points, how do they do it ? I agree the self confidence factor plays a big part and maybe they've also given more thought to what goes on before,inbetween and after the sex itself.

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I like the GFE its my type of thing as I have been starved of affection for so many years. The sex can be vanilla for some in GFE , even the act in itself for me is not the most important part necessarily.  I have yet to be convinced by PSE,  doing Anal and S&M with someone you don't know etc . What  is a turn on for me is understanding psychosocially how  those acts effect the girl sexually, what turns her on etc, how she authentically  reacts. With a WG one will never know what she truly thinks so I dont see the point in getting too kinky if you have been successful in those acts with gf's from the past. For me one won't re create the passion of seduction and erotica one got from a lover. I cannot get those lovers any more so vanilla is ok for me. GFE is a skill and the older and crusty I get I guess the girl will have to have increasingly more skill,:)).  I had a GFE one the other day though and girl was lovely, absolutely my type, however  a clumsy comment by her  broke the fourth wall and I lost concentration for a bit. In the end with a bit of chat and flattery ( #manipulation ;) ) I got the girl to convincingly re create the illusion, and I left with my mind happy with thoughts for true lovers of the past. I did wonder if I would see her again though even though she was an ideal type. Probs will #suckerforaperfectass ;)

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But do WGs occasionally enjoy the sex itself with certain clients? I don't mean the job satisfaction of making a man happy or the social interaction.   When I gave my regulars oral, were they faking their orgasms? 

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Some say they do. I would suggest the vast majority of the time they are thinking of something other than the event in progress, like how the spot on the punters balding head looks similar to the punters one from last Friday.

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I know exactly what you mean with this and I always find it hard to describe what it is I offer as I do enjoy all of the GFE things but I also like a fair amount of PSE too so I would describe myself as an "Open minded GFE".

 

It's good to read this as I would agree that sex can be very vanilla but in order for there to be fireworks there has to be effort from both sides. I am always more than happy to throw in some kinky filth, actually I encourage it. I did ask a client to spank me the other day and he refused! whoops! 

 

Role play is great as is bondage, hair pulling and a bit of rough sex and maybe some highly charged passion in fact the only thing I draw the line at is hard sports, anal and role play involving rape or incest. Does that make me vanila?

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But do WGs occasionally enjoy the sex itself with certain clients? I don't mean the job satisfaction of making a man happy or the social interaction. When I gave my regulars oral, were they faking their orgasms?

I properly genuinely enjoy 2/3 in 10 bookings to be honest. Because most of the time they're doing something that I either don't like the feel of or they aren't doing it right.

Orgasms are draining and can leave you in that "sleepy" state so most may be faking, you'll never know so not point speculating on it.

Of course there are little things within the booking that we all enjoy, I like my job and thankfully most of my clients are really polite and good company which makes things easier.

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I properly genuinely enjoy 2/3 in 10 bookings to be honest. Because most of the time they're doing something that I either don't like the feel of or they aren't doing it right.

Orgasms are draining and can leave you in that "sleepy" state so most may be faking, you'll never know so not point speculating on it.

Of course there are little things within the booking that we all enjoy, I like my job and thankfully most of my clients are really polite and good company which makes things easier.

 

 

Really excellent post Miss. There is a ring of truth about what you say which is very heartening. 

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I properly genuinely enjoy 2/3 in 10 bookings to be honest. Because most of the time they're doing something that I either don't like the feel of or they aren't doing it right.

 

 

I properly genuinely enjoy 2/3 in 10 bookings to be honest. Because most of the time they're doing something that I either don't like the feel of or they aren't doing it right.

Orgasms are draining and can leave you in that "sleepy" state so most may be faking, you'll never know so not point speculating on it.

Of course there are little things within the booking that we all enjoy, I like my job and thankfully most of my clients are really polite and good company which makes things easier.

 

Thanks TYE for your reply.  You say that it's no use me speculating on whether the lady is faking orgasms but for me it is important.  This is one reason I always liked to be a lady's first client of the day as I felt there was more chance of her experiencing a genuine orgasm. Although one parlour receptionist told me that some ladies need time to 'warm up' so they might be more orgasmic later on in the day.  Was she pulling my leg - what are lady members' views on this?

I know ladies do this job as their means of income but it's nice to feel that it's not just the money.  I used to enjoy my job and the people I was with most of the time but I would not have done it for free! 

We 'softees' are constantly reminded that the GFE is just a pretence, an illusion, not real. But I'm afraid that's no longer enough for me.  Maybe that's partly why I stopped punting.  But, who knows...............? 

 

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