Lessingham

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It finally happened. I visited a wg and she took the fee. I blame the heat as neither of us checked it. When I got home I found a tenner in my wallet, I had accidentally miss counted. I felt awful, what to do? If I went back she probably would have another client. Email or phone? I decided to risk the phone. She answered and I told her. There was a looooooooooooooong pause.

"Can I come round to give you it?" I asked.

"I think you better."

So, I went back and handed over the cash on the doorstep. She would not let me in and I thought the trsnsaction weird in public. I mumbled "sorry" and she took the cash and left me talking to the door.

I'm going back to envelopes ad the cash can't migrate and asking for a count in front of me

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Ah, I am surprised that she acted like that over a tenner - I have occasionally been short or over and I think you were very honourable with your actions.  Over/under counting happens.. I have forgotten to take the payment a few times and have gotten it back weeks later and on the other hand I will let a client know if there is an overpayment. 

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...I thought that was really sweet of you Lessingham if you don't mind me saying...it wasn't a sin of omission as Pia says these things happen - if I returned to see her I would have paid the shortfall then but probably (to my shame I am sure) I would not have called her or returned - these things happen sa la vie and it was only a tenner after all - I know its harsh but I feel its the ladies job to make sure the payment is made correctly and ask for more if there is a shortfall.

 

I didn't think she treated you very graciously either as I say I think this was very sweet and decent of you.

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fuck envelopes.  count the money to her. no arguments then.

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...I have to say when I visit an agency lady I just count out the money myself - but I never spend more than £260 max (2 hour booking) and more likely £150 or £220 - kind of enjoy that process money out on the table on confusion.

 

The ladies seem to rather enjoy this process and I am not remotely embarrassed by it or anything like that - actually I find it rather refreshing and straightforward - as then with the 'money matter' out of the way the fun begins.

 

The independent ladies I see however I don't think would like me counting the money out and I always have an envelope - its funny how different ladies are on this kind of thing....

 

It's the one thing I hate there to be confusion over as I am sure the ladies do too...but as the OP highlights things can go awry.

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I did not want a medal for being a good guy but a smile and a bit of tact would have been nice. Maybe I was the third or fourth one she'd had that week. I blame the sticky weather for making the notes play silly buggers

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That is an odd reaction, your call and returning with the rest of the fee shows it was a genuine mistake and not a deliberate underpayment. 

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Yes I would have been very grateful had you been good enough to bring the money back.

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The only reason I can think of was she thought that you might be expecting her to be soooo grateful that she'd give you a free blowie, so she was making it quite clear that no such thing was on offer!

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I saw a lady a few years ago for a 45 minute appointment for £120. We went about 5 minutes overtime, but when I paid the lady, she happily accepted what we both thought was £120 for the time booked. Exactly what happened to the OP happened to me :when I got back to my car I realised I had underpaid her by £20. I phoned her to tell her that I had miscounted, and returned to pay her the outstanding £20. Once I had done that, she started complaining at me that she had gone over time, and that I should give her a further £30, which I politely declined. At least the OP didn't get that. I had been seeing the lady about every month for five or six months till then : we have never met since.

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Maybe she was so shocked you  were doing the decent thing she was paranoid it was some sort of scam... some escorts become paranoid and cynical- which is hardly surprising the number of men that try stuff on with us! 

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The WG's reaction was a bit strange, and hats off to you Lessingham for being so honest - some people would rub their hands in glee for getting away with it!

 

Some people have a cynical relationship with people & money, either that or the WG was just trying to make you feel worse for getting it wrong. Odd behaviour and she should've been far more grateful. Nothing wrong with good manners (either way)!

 

I agree counting it out in front of the girl (especially if you don't know her) is always best practice. Some ladies do prefer a more discreet method in an envelope as a gift, but depending on the person/establishment you can't always trust they'd be honest on first booking!

 

Just my 2p.

 

:)

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Well done, Lessingham! "So shines a good deed in a weary world", as Shakespeare put it. She sounds a bit ungrateful for your honesty but who knows why...?

I recall once, in my early punting days, going to see a lady at a well-known Milton Keynes establishment. I had counted out the money previously and I handed it to her as a bunch of notes. She took it and left the room, then came back a short time later saying it was £10 short. I didn't query that and handed over another tenner but the more I thought about it, the more I was sure that I had given her the correct amount first time. So, I'm now convinced that she fleeced me for a tenner - a small amount which makes it seem all the more petty. (She's still working: needless to say, I've not visited her again!)

 

Since then, I always count out the money note by note in front of the lady and hand it to her - that way, there can be no disagreement from either side. I've heard people say that to do it that way is somehow demeaning to the WG but it seems to me that a - if she can't accept the fact that she's doing it for the money then she's in the wrong profession and b - it's at least as 'demeaning' to me making the point that I'm paying for sex.

Some people may like to feel that time spent engaging in paid-for-sex should be pure, simple, inter-personal intimacy, unsullied by any visible intrusion of filthy lucre. To that, I say: "You ain't foolin' no-one but yourself!"

Edited by Max Gentle

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So many folk comparing our services with that of restaurants... garages....etc etc .... something I do not like but.....

 

if we are going down that road then why is it not demeaning to stand at the counter at the cake shop and count the money out.... or hand over a wad at the shoe shop and say "twenty-forty-sixty" and so on......

 

yet some men think it is demeaning to do that when paying a lady for her time!

 

Yes ok we will often use cards for larger purchases but it still has to be checked and verified before we can make off with and enjoy the goods.... no different to handing over money to us.

 

If a lady does not check it either in front of the guy or when she whisks it off to the hiding place then she only has herself to blame if it does not add up..... whether it is a genuine mistake or a deliberate attempt to short change.

 

For god sake you are paying to fook us so we are hardly likely to feel demeaned by the pile of paper stuff being counted out.  Many guys ask me to check it in front of them and I can tell they feel a little uneasy but I have a degree in diplomacy (ok then an NVQ) and a smile which gets any awkwardness dispensed with as quick as a flash.

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She seems a bit of a misery guts and her reaction would put me off seeing her again, good on you for doing the right thing although after her reaction I bet you're wondering why you bothered!

My moment of sheer mortification came mid shag when I realised I had actually left the wg's money in my car which was parked about 10 minutes walk away... :rolleyes: Talk about passion killer! After we'd finished round 1 I confessed, luckily we'd met before (which was why she didn't take the money up front) and she was fine with it - I offered to go and get it straight away to which she said I could but she was keeping my clothes as guarantor! Then said it was fine I could just go and get it after the booking had finished, which was very trusting and decent of her not to deduct at least some of the 20 minutes from the booking time.

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Maybe she was so shocked you  were doing the decent thing she was paranoid it was some sort of scam... some escorts become paranoid and cynical- which is hardly surprising the number of men that try stuff on with us! 

It has to be something along these lines,you threw her and she's presumed you were doing it to get back into the premises hence her reaction.On your gehalf,fair play to you,you did the right thing.

 

So many folk comparing our services with that of restaurants... garages....etc etc .... something I do not like but.....

 

if we are going down that road then why is it not demeaning to stand at the counter at the cake shop and count the money out.... or hand over a wad at the shoe shop and say "twenty-forty-sixty" and so on......

 

yet some men think it is demeaning to do that when paying a lady for her time!

 

Yes ok we will often use cards for larger purchases but it still has to be checked and verified before we can make off with and enjoy the goods.... no different to handing over money to us.

 

If a lady does not check it either in front of the guy or when she whisks it off to the hiding place then she only has herself to blame if it does not add up..... whether it is a genuine mistake or a deliberate attempt to short change.

 

For god sake you are paying to fook us so we are hardly likely to feel demeaned by the pile of paper stuff being counted out.  Many guys ask me to check it in front of them and I can tell they feel a little uneasy but I have a degree in diplomacy (ok then an NVQ) and a smile which gets any awkwardness dispensed with as quick as a flash.

Doing that though may be the best way to get it through to people that this is a business like any other and hopefully work on removing the publics stigma/attitude thats attached.Also on working on a certain section of the punters attitudes when it comes to this trade,those that take everything about it way too personally.

as for that last part.maybe some of it has nothing to do with making the lady uncomfortable and more the punters own squemishness about the cash.If its nicely packaged and he doesnt see it since enveloping it then its easier to ignore.

 

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a big deal over nothing - why not just text - say sorry I underpaid by a tenner can I square up next time

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I just hand it over.  Some check it in my presence some disappear with it and come back.  I know I've given the correct amount and if there was a disagreement I'd probably say something like " are you sure, I checked it several times".  If she was insistent I'd pay an extra 10 or 20, never go back and probably do a review  (I don't yet do reviews).  Certainly I wouldn't be happy but having invested more than 10 or 20's worth in time and effort to get that far I wouldn't try to get my money back and leave.

 

Not had a problem yet.

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fuck envelopes.  count the money to her. no arguments then.

 

Exactly what I was going to write - although these days i prefer not to risk paper cuts on my dick from the envelope...

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I just hand it over.  Some check it in my presence some disappear with it and come back.  I know I've given the correct amount and if there was a disagreement I'd probably say something like " are you sure, I checked it several times".  If she was insistent I'd pay an extra 10 or 20, never go back and probably do a review  (I don't yet do reviews).  Certainly I wouldn't be happy but having invested more than 10 or 20's worth in time and effort to get that far I wouldn't try to get my money back and leave.

 

Not had a problem yet.

I don't count the money out but the wg is welcome to do so in my presence, (which has still never happened) and I see it as her responsibility anyway. I'm not sure I'd be handing more money over if she said it was short after taking it away - firstly because although I might forget to actually have the cash with me (see post #15), I check it obsessively beforehand and am 100% certain the amount I'm handing over is correct. Secondly I never have spare cash on me anyway! So I don't know what I'd do in the situation described by Robert49.

To add to my earlier post, and completely opposite as described by the OP, when I returned with the money some 15-20 minutes later, she invited me in, offered me a drink of water (because I ran all the way), gave me a kiss and a hug and actually thanked me for returning, adding that she never doubted I would.

As much as I said I wouldn't return to a wg displaying the attitude described by Lessingham, the way the lady I saw behaved would have guaranteed a return in its own right.

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There is another option.

 

Put it through the letterbox.

 

???

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There is another option.

 

Put it through the letterbox.

 

???

Dunno about Lessingham but wouldn't have worked in my case as she lived in an apartment that had all the letterboxes at the main entrance and I wouldn't have felt comfortable leaving it there.

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I think you done the right thing and the girl may have acted a bit weird when you arrived because maybe she had someone else around or someone that doesn't know she was a WG, But still you acted like a gentleman and a lot of people wouldn't have done that so she probably should have at least thanked you for your honesty.

 

I myself have two section for notes in my wallet. One I put the punting money in pre counted the night before then double checked on the day then a third count when I arrive and I am in the room waiting for her to arrive and set it out on the table.I then just hand over the notes or say I left the money over there and they never been counted, unless it was a threesome and the girls needed to split the money between them which is understandable.

 

I have even been told in the middle of a session after asking if I can try anal which was another £40, the girl in question said sure, you can pay me after we finish which was nice and didn't stop the continuity of the punt. I almost forgot afterwards too, but paid her after my shower during which I remembered I needed to pay an extra £40 luckily! If I didn't have that shower I might have walked out and not paid just like you did, and it would have been a two hour drive each way to pay her if I didn't remember until I got home!

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I don't count the money out but the wg is welcome to do so in my presence, (which has still never happened) and I see it as her responsibility anyway. I'm not sure I'd be handing more money over if she said it was short after taking it away - firstly because although I might forget to actually have the cash with me (see post #15), I check it obsessively beforehand and am 100% certain the amount I'm handing over is correct. Secondly I never have spare cash on me anyway! So I don't know what I'd do in the situation described by Robert49.

To add to my earlier post, and completely opposite as described by the OP, when I returned with the money some 15-20 minutes later, she invited me in, offered me a drink of water (because I ran all the way), gave me a kiss and a hug and actually thanked me for returning, adding that she never doubted I would.

As much as I said I wouldn't return to a wg displaying the attitude described by Lessingham, the way the lady I saw behaved would have guaranteed a return in its own right.

Spare note or two carried in case there is an extra that I fancy.  This of course is with girls new to me.

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There is another option.

 

Put it through the letterbox.

 

???

Are we still talking the money here.It could be some kind of danger glory hole fetish wondering if its spring loaded or theres an underfed jack russell on the other side

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