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Why So Many Clients Flake On Me? Does It Happen To Others?

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Hi again everyone. I am not sure if you remember me, but I had a thread with general questions, when I was starting out in the beginning of this year.

this forum has been very helpfull as a source for instructions and advice. I still do my "hobby hooking", meaning I see clients once in awhile, when I have time, but without professional photos, websites or anything.  Did not do it for two months, because was very busy and not in the mood. I liked my not so many  experiences quite a lot, as I do not have to dress up, or be soeone else, just simply be myself have sex as in a normal date. The one time I disliked it was when I tried to get other people to find me men (from another town), but I got swindled by the man who just slept with me and left me in a hotel room without any other clients entering :D:D:D

I also had some clients liking me for more and trying to go to dinners and dates with me , eventhough they know I have a boyfriend, and am happy in my relationship. But that is another story.

 

But yes that is behind me.  What I like a lot is the thrill of the new clients, it is weird but it turns me on, and also what i love is the money aspect. What annoys me now that I again tried to start meeting people is that so many people write to me long messages i talk to them, always respond, we have many chats as my "clients" seem to like that. But then so many people do not show up and cancel, usually in the very last moment. This pisses me off so much, because I cancel other people t meet  a person I have promiced to out of correctness, and then he does nto return the jesture.

 

Today I had an offer for a very large sum of money from a guy, who is also very attractive to me, for the whole night as well, but I had a short date with a person, whom I have promised I will see some days prior. So to be correct and decent (with a bleeding greedy heart) I told the hot stud that I cannot meet him, and prepared for my short date with the other guy.

 

Well the appintment is at 8 pm, and at 8:15 he writes to me that his car ist kapput ...that pissed me off so much. I know that he has more than an hour drive to my house, so he must have noticed at 7 that his car ist kapput, but let me know only at 20:15... Then he said lets meet Wednesday..

 

Yesterday the same thing happened. I was waiting for someone for like 20 minutes only to get a message from him that he cannot make it.

 

But I am especially bleeding about today, because of the client I like ....whom I did not meet because i am "correct". And it was a whole night offer as well. Am I doing something wrong...Does it happen to you ?? Do you have ways to prevent this?

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Welcome to the REAL life of an escort im pretty sure every single one of us suffers this unfortunatly!

Pick yourself up dust it off and pray tomorrow is a better day is all you can really do .

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Like any profession where u earn big tax free money, it cant all be plain sailing

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Like any profession where u earn big tax free money, it cant all be plain sailing

 

Why do you assume it's tax-free?

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Happens to all of us no matter how much or how little we screen potential clients.  Be a little firmer, do not engage in too many messages or phone calls and don't be too explicit.  Be professional and take the rough with the smooth - just shrug you shoulders, dust yourself off and carry on, tomorrow's another day.

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the thing is that men want this from me --talking a lot to them. even with regular clients, they all want to talk a lot , not during sessions, but via whatsapp and emails etc. So i do that ...i do not mind it in general. For me , I relly actually would like to have a bit more humane interraction, and not like a menu in the restaurant. But it pisses me off when I extend so much courtesy (as I would like to think of it) to develop genuine good feelings between us, yet they do not do it for me. I mean in my eyes I am an equal fellow human being...

Everyone can say what they want, but men still to this day have the madona whore complex, regardless of all the feminism and "modern gender dynamics". they will never see it as a job like any other or as a service like any other but will dare to feel superior to me simply because they pay me. My time is no less important than theirs, I would argue that it is actually more important, because at least I am planning to go somewhere with my life...I would never behave like this with someone. This pisses me off.

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quote " I would argue that it is actually more important, because at least I am planning to go somewhere with my life..

bit harsh!

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You have been here before with the same moans.... stop whining.  Just accept you are a whore - take the cash and give the men the lovely time they have paid for.

 

I have managed to do that all these years - am still sane and with a very real one of these on my face :)

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Just store their numbers

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They are called timewasters and this is what they do get you to engage in text or email tennis because they find it a thrill and have no intention of meeting and paying you for your time.Learn to spot the signs and learn to get people to confirm on the day that they are still up for meeting.Of course these 'clients' like you to message them that's the whole idea getting your attention for nothing so learn to spot them.Genuine clients keep it quite simple and don't need the free titilation.

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It's a pity that time wasters do not wear a badge on their lapels! :D

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They are called timewasters and this is what they do get you to engage in text or email tennis because they find it a thrill and have no intention of meeting and paying you for your time.Learn to spot the signs and learn to get people to confirm on the day that they are still up for meeting.Of course these 'clients' like you to message them that's the whole idea getting your attention for nothing so learn to spot them.Genuine clients keep it quite simple and don't need the free titilation.

 

But that doesn't really guarantee anything, does it, Bibi?

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There is no guarantees in this game Colonel Bonkers but it sure lessens the amount of times you get messed about and helps you spot the timewasters.

Especially if you ask that they text or email just before they set off to you.

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But that doesn't really guarantee anything, does it, Bibi?

It doesn't but it reduces the chances of cancel, increases chances of attendance.

 

I find that 50% of new clients will cancel or no show for one reason or another, and the rate was exactly the same for short notice bookings. There are also repeat clients who become unreliable on subsequent bookings, it's up to you whether you wish to continue to see them - some ladies are fine with cancels and can replace them, or take a lot of bookings each day, so it's not a problem. For me it was a problem because most clients needed to make travel arrangements, were not able to phone at the last minute, and I don't accept many bookings/have limited time available, so I started asking for a deposit from new clients or anyone who'd cancelled a disproportionate amount of times.

 

Whilst I am well aware this goes against a lot of punters principles, however I did find to my astonishment that several potential clients were willing and able to pay a deposit. This has worked really very well for me, it does come with the added pressure of 'what if I can't make it' but to me a booking is definite.

 

Since doing this I've had virtually zero cancellations, one guy earlier this year who serially cancelled, did so after paying for his appointment in full - but that wasn't a surprise and the payment made up for the times when he'd really been hard work to make arrangements with. Someone new recently has found themselves unable to make it, but I lay my terms out at the time of booking and the guy has the choice of whether to accept or not. When I was still doing incalls it also made it easier because after paying the deposit I'd then give out more detailed instructions much sooner for parking, and then to my door, rather than have the 'phone from a landmark'. A deposit however doesn't bypass my usual screening, requirement for phone call, proof of outcall location.

 

Anyway it's helped me however for someone less established and requiring more clients each week it may hinder your business. You also have to respect that the client is placing great trust in you, and I understand that unscrupulous providers could take great advantage of this, but like I say it's worked well for me.

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Regards the messaging if it's impinging then say so. If someone is too chatty and requires more out of booking contact than I can support I'll tell them, and advise that it seems as if I can't provide what they are looking for. Sometimes they'll realise I'm not a penpal, sometimes they'll disappear off, either way it's better out than becoming annoyed and resentful.

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Hi, about the overbooking in order to avoid that how does that work? I mean I am a person who feels almost fear of not keeping an appointment or a promise so if i overbook more people, the odds are I will have to excuse myself to others and that would make me feel uncomfortable. I do not want to meet with more than one person a day.

Do they write to many girls at the same time and then just choose the one they like, or what the hell ? I do not get them ...

 

I think that even with regular clients I will from now on avoid talking to them that much, because the truth is this is not real friendship or anything and I just feel disappointed in the end.

 

The good news is that "my guy" the one I physically like, scheduled a meeting today, after me telling him I cannot yesterday. So at least I feel good about that.

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I don't think anyone was suggesting you overbook or doublebook.However you can say to a client that you have an appointment already but if they wish you can inform them if you have a cancellation.Some write to many girls and do indeed pick one but most never book anyone and just mess around.Genuine guys are usually clear and concise and don't send incessant texts or emails.

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Hi, about the overbooking in order to avoid that how does that work? I mean I am a person who feels almost fear of not keeping an appointment or a promise so if i overbook more people, the odds are I will have to excuse myself to others and that would make me feel uncomfortable. I do not want to meet with more than one person a day.

Do they write to many girls at the same time and then just choose the one they like, or what the hell ? I do not get them ...

 

I think that even with regular clients I will from now on avoid talking to them that much, because the truth is this is not real friendship or anything and I just feel disappointed in the end.

 

The good news is that "my guy" the one I physically like, scheduled a meeting today, after me telling him I cannot yesterday. So at least I feel good about that.

When I use the word 'overbook' I do not mean double book. I use overbook to describe fitting in as many clients as possible, taking more per day or week then you'd like, with the absolute minimum gap between, with the assumption that some might not make it.

 

It can however be tiring but also exciting if everyone turns up. I've also taken on more than is ideal, to then wake up on the day to find everyone has cancelled!

 

As a general rule a definite confirmation time, and reserve list is a very good idea. Life does happen to people, but I found it interesting that there seem to be people who manage to attend every, or 99% of appointments made, whilst others appear to have every calamity under the sun happen to them.

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If I remember rightly noobgirl, in you first thread you were talking about having a semi permanent arrangement with carefully selected clients.  If that is how you are approaching it now I would think you're bound to risk attracting a few "clingy" customers.

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You need to treat it like a business. You don't get to try half the food in the supermarket first and then leave without buying or paying for anything. 

 

Some men will get their sexual kicks out of emailing, calling or texting with no intention of actually turning up to a booking- they're getting your time and their kicks for free. Stop doing it. 

 

There will be some time wasters, but if you carry on with this you'll learn to figure them out. I can nearly always spot them now instinctively. 

 

I think it was you before who I suggested wasn't right for this game, my opinion is still the same. 

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I think Lydia has been a bit harsh on you - but given she knows what she is talking about that may be the right thing.

 

Robert49's comment also rings true in that some men are quick to spot a less hard-hearted SP and form an unrealistic attachment.

 

I have come across a case of someone thinking he was getting on so well with an SP he decided they were boy/girlfriend and stopped paying...

 

Given the risk of clinginess, perhaps better not to have your birthday showing as if an invitation for special treatment? Not sure many SPs do show birthday (more don't show year of course).

 

Just being nosey - location DE is?

 

But the final point is that a lot of men are not-fully-grown-up prats - I should know.

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Hi, about the overbooking in order to avoid that how does that work? I mean I am a person who feels almost fear of not keeping an appointment or a promise so if i overbook more people, the odds are I will have to excuse myself to others and that would make me feel uncomfortable. I do not want to meet with more than one person a day.

Do they write to many girls at the same time and then just choose the one they like, or what the hell ? I do not get them ...

 

I think that even with regular clients I will from now on avoid talking to them that much, because the truth is this is not real friendship or anything and I just feel disappointed in the end.

 

The good news is that "my guy" the one I physically like, scheduled a meeting today, after me telling him I cannot yesterday. So at least I feel good about that.

Easy...DONT overbook or double book. If you have two guys wanting the same slot the decent thing to do is tell the guy who didnt contact you first that you can do a different time slot or let him know that you can text him if you get a canelation or a no show, sometimes they say yes please let me know and sometimes they say they will leave it to another day, its just how the cookie crumbles in this business. If you doube book sods law will be that they both show up then what? YOU have become the timewaster to one of them and he may have gone to a lot of trouble to get to that arranged time. Its not fair and you cant complain about guys timewasting you if you then go and do it to the guys too. Its not professional and full time or part time you still have to adhere to certain standards of practise

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yes but again and again it keeps happening. today again someone cancelled, but at least he did that a day in advance, which is very nice of him. But this time something had legitimately come up and he simply rescheduled. I am thinking of telling people that if you do that more than once I wil stop seeing them...Maybe I am going through a black period, because in 5 days I had 3 cancelations ...

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Anzwaz about this guy I am not angry at all, since he did it way in advance and was very nice about it. I simply told him "Wel I expected that, to be honest", because I really did as it already had happened 2 times in the previous 3 days, and he was like "oh why did you expect that" and started explaining himself lol.

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yes but again and again it keeps happening. today again someone cancelled, but at least he did that a day in advance, which is very nice of him. But this time something had legitimately come up and he simply rescheduled. I am thinking of telling people that if you do that more than once I wil stop seeing them...Maybe I am going through a black period, because in 5 days I had 3 cancelations ...

That number of cancellations is not unusual.

 

You could develop a policy of a certain number of cancels and you cannot see them again, or give option of paying a deposit.

 

My rule of thumb is that if number of cancels equals or exceeds actual number of bookings attended = won't see you again/payment in full as deposit.

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