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Jeremy Corbyn On Escorts

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Anyone have any idea what his position is - re Swedish model, and other proposals regarding this industry?

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I don't know his position, but I think I can say with some confidence that he'll never be in a position to act on his beliefs, whatever they are lol 

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His campaign manager is John McDonnell, one of the good guys. As the pair of them are like birds in the same nest, it's fair to say he opposes the Swedish model where buyers are criminalised and sellers are also criminalised if they share premises or hire help.

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Escorting will be nationalised when Jezza is in charge.

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Happily, his views on this issue are irrelevant. The Labour Party will come to its sense (but probably not until the very last moment) and Corbyn will not be elected leader when people realise that would condemn the party to a minimum of 15 years out of government......

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Yes John MacDonnell who is backing Jeremy Corbyn is a staunch opposed of criminalisation of clients and sex work. He gave a fabulous speech during a debate on the subject in the houses of Parliament last year.

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Escorting will be nationalised when Jezza is in charge.

 

I rather like that idea. I presume, however, that as with the NHS and state education, it would still be possible to "go private" :)

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The momentum is with Corbyn. If he doesnt win the leadership election, it will be like another defeat for Labour. Just look at the numbers of people going to see him speak. There will be a lot of disappointment if he doesnt win.

 

John MacDonnell will be in the shadow cabinet?

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The momentum is with Corbyn. If he doesnt win the leadership election, it will be like another defeat for Labour. Just look at the numbers of people going to see him speak. There will be a lot of disappointment if he doesnt win.

 

John MacDonnell will be in the shadow cabinet?

(As one who is not entitled to vote in the UK), it strikes me that the huge numbers of people coming out to see and hear Corbyn are people who very likely would vote for Labour in the 2020 general election regardless who its candidate might be.  He appears to energise the youthful, first-time voter but he is not likely to be much more successful overall than Milliband was this year.  With the SNP having sliced off a sizeable number of former Labour-held seats recently, I doubt that Corbyn would draw many voters north of the border back to Labour, and I can't imagine him appealing very successfully to the undecided or moderate voter in the rest of Britain.  If the Tories implode, I guess anything can happen, but a unifier to build a coalition of fragmented parties is not likely to come from either a left-wing ideologue or a right-wing one.

 

If you ask me who I might be inclined to vote for in the 2016 US general election, I will plead the Fifth Amendment.

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The momentum is with Corbyn. If he doesnt win the leadership election, it will be like another defeat for Labour. Just look at the numbers of people going to see him speak. There will be a lot of disappointment if he doesnt win.

 

John MacDonnell will be in the shadow cabinet?

 

One of the many problems with this Labour leadership contest is it goes on for so bloody long. It doesn't finish until September 12. Might be a case of the tortoise and the hare.

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The momentum is with Corbyn. If he doesnt win the leadership election, it will be like another defeat for Labour. Just look at the numbers of people going to see him speak. There will be a lot of disappointment if he doesnt win.

 

John MacDonnell will be in the shadow cabinet?

If Corbyn does win, it will simply be yet another case (after Foot, Kinnock, Brown and Miliband) of Labour turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

He may be attractive to Labour activists, Unions and the loony left but I think that the vast majority of the English electorate wouldn't touch him with the proverbial 40 foot barge pole.

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Both Corbyn and McDonnell voted AGAINST the current strict liability law which makes it a crime to have sex ( or intend to ) with a coerced or controlled prostitute whether you knew about it or not. I don't know their reasoning for voting this way. Perhaps they thought it would make it harder to prosecute exploiters as the punters who might give evidence wouldn't come forward. Or perhaps they just can't stand Harriet Harman who was pushing the bill. Someone should ask them.

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If Corbyn does win, it will simply be yet another case (after Foot, Kinnock, Brown and Miliband) of Labour turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

He may be attractive to Labour activists, Unions and the loony left but I think that the vast majority of the English electorate wouldn't touch him with the proverbial 40 foot barge pole.

 

What you say is true. On the other hand, and without in any way playing devil's advocate, I can quite see why he should seem to be attracting more genuine support than the other three. He's no great orator, but he does seem to speak clearly, and when he's finished you know what he's said and what he wants. This is pretty unusual nowadays in politics, where they're all afraid of their spin-doctors' shadow and terrified of causing a twitter-storm if they say anything that strays outside the bland and anodyne. Burnham and Cooper seem just useless.

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What you say is true. On the other hand, and without in any way playing devil's advocate, I can quite see why he should seem to be attracting more genuine support than the other three. He's no great orator, but he does seem to speak clearly, and when he's finished you know what he's said and what he wants. This is pretty unusual nowadays in politics, where they're all afraid of their spin-doctors' shadow and terrified of causing a twitter-storm if they say anything that strays outside the bland and anodyne. Burnham and Cooper seem just useless.

He seems to be the straightest talker of them all and politics badly needs straight talkers

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I did a search on they work for you, he voted against the attempt to sneak in criminalization last year which must be a good start. 

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He's backed by John McDonnell MP who has always spoken out against criminalisation of sex work, and who also gave a fantastic speech during a debate on a bill which was trying to sneak in criminalisation of clients last November.

 

I wrote to John McD last year and received acknowledgement which is more than I can say for an MP local to me.

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Looking at Corbyn's other views, he's clearly a true liberal, and happy having afternoon tea with the IRA and Hamas- I can't imagine that he would ever be the type of politician who would want to criminalise men for paying for sex. As noted before, it's usually the hard-line feminist and religious loons (odd bedfellows indeed) who are so deeply offended and club together about this issue, and Corbyn is in neither category.

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Looking at Corbyn's other views, he's clearly a true liberal, and happy having afternoon tea with the IRA and Hamas- I can't imagine that he would ever be the type of politician who would want to criminalise men for paying for sex. As noted before, it's usually the hard-line feminist and religious loons (odd bedfellows indeed) who are so deeply offended and club together about this issue, and Corbyn is in neither category.

his friends chuck gays off tall buildings.  who knows what he thinks on prostitution?

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His other friend is strongly opposed to criminalisation and he's just given him a very important job.

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Anyone have any idea what his position is - re Swedish model, and other proposals regarding this industry?

I looked him up on they work for you, and asked various political ppl I know, he is apparently pro decrim, voted against the amendment to the modern trafficking bill which would have criminalised clients, and has been congratulated by SWOU. So I think he is on the side of the angels. 

 

And he had been married a few times so I think we can guess there are no rose tinted spectacles  :D

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I don't know about his views on it, but generally on the left the opinion is that these poor girls are being exploited and if they were given proper jobs and a good education they wouldn't have to do sex work and the sort of men who pay for sex with them are white, middle class, fascist abusers.

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If the sex involves miners, he will definitely try to nationalise it. 

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I don't know about his views on it, but generally on the left the opinion is that these poor girls are being exploited and if they were given proper jobs and a good education they wouldn't have to do sex work and the sort of men who pay for sex with them are white, middle class, fascist abusers.

 

A true leftie wouldn't want to criminalise punters.

 

It would be rather hypocritical as I said, to be happy to sit down for afternoon tea and have a civilised chat with a psychopathic terrorist who is responsible for maiming and murdering people; yet want to criminalise and imprison men who just want a shag and are happy to pay for it.

 

Corbyn is a lot of things but I don't have the impression that he is a hypocrite, unlike many of his colleagues at the Houses of Parliament.

 

I am sure that he would not approve of those paying for sex or escorts/prostitutes themselves, but he wouldn't be advocating criminalisation or imprisonment.

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