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Any Recent News For Dusseldorf?

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I'm travelling to Düsseldorf a week today.  Has anyone been there recently?  I've been searching for some updates but there's only the one site out there with anything that's current.

 

The plan is for Duisberg RLD for my first day, then a lot of FKK's and the odd Erotic Massage.

 

Cheers.

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Day 4 - Monday 4 July at The Living Room
 
Whilst I had been enjoying my time in Frankfurt, I hadn't "fallen in love" and as it was a 6 day trip as opposed to my normal 3-4 day trips felt I had the luxury of time on my side. Got a train back to Frankfurt HBF. Was horrified to learn the express train cost E164 (for others looking to do a combo of Frankfurt and Dusseldorf make sure you get train tickets in advance as sure they're much cheaper that way) and did think of not bothering and spending the next two days in Mainhatten and World so as to do the "Hessen Big 5" in one trip but I was underwhelmed by Mainhatten last time and World doesn't seem to be getting good reviews. Plus I thought, if not now, then when?
 
I had shortlisted The Living Room and Oceans (the latter largely on account o reports that one of my old favourites Jennifer had been spotted at Oceans albeit not on a Monday) so decided to go to Living Room first and Oceans on Tuesday in the hope there would be more chance of seeing Jennifer on a Tuesday.
 
Found an IBIS near Dusseldorf HBF and got back to the station for a local train to Kaarst from where LR is only a short walk away. With all this commuting it must have been 7pm when i got there. Initial impressions were not great as it is much smaller than the Hessen clubs and is essentially a bar with a living room, outdoor area and downstairs are the changing rooms etc. 
 
Most importantly, were perhaps 30 girls whereas the Hessen clubs tend to have twice as many. The general quality and mix was comparable but it does mean the shortlist is shorter. All the girls I had that night were Romanian.
 
13. Mickie: Nice looking young brunette (maybe 20) with shortish hair and girl next door look, natural looks and slim. She seemed pleasant enough and took her to a room. Very nice session though not mindblowing which I took to an hour which basically consisted of alternating between her giving me a blowjob then shagging her doggy, rest, blowjob, missionary, rest and finished with a blowjob. E100
 
14. Anna and Felecia: I had earmarked four girls I wanted 2 blondes and 2 brunettes and to be honest the rest of the girls held no interest or appeal. General quality was fine but you do get spoilt for choice in FKK land. One was an absolute must-see. These days I have an eclectic taste in women but traditionally I always preferred darker skinned brunettes with curvy figures and big natural tits (e.g. a Raquel Welch in her youth type body). Anna fitted this bill and was gorgeous. Curvy is sometimes a euphemism for fat but certainly was not the case with Anna who was stacked in all the right places. Also marvellously set off in white bra, panties, stockings and suspenders. Facially also very attractive with her tied up which I also like and overall an impressive woman. I spoke to her and she was pleasant enough but wasn't quite ready and to be honest just over half way into my trip, was beginning to flag. 
 
There were a pair of friends who were younger than Anna who is perhaps 25-27 (one blonde, one brunette) who were very lively and would dance on the bar and also had my eye on another blonde who turned out to be Felecia and thought maybe I could have all 4 over two more sessions. After having something to eat (food isn't bad there) was just about ready to resume proceedings when to my horror the younger blonde and brunette were leaving. Thought I had better get down to action before the other two left and told Anna I was ready to go and whether she knew the other blonde, which she didn't but decided to take the risk anyway and asked her to invite Felecia along. Felecia was wearing black bra and panties (unlike Hessen clubs most girls wear, bikinis underwear or lingerie), blonde hair, brown eyes, nice natural figure, smaller tits but a nice handful. I would have been happy having her in a solo. 
 
The best sessions are those which appear natural rather than mechanical or formulaic and I'm glad to say this was natural dynamite. Although they didn't know each other, they seemed to be relaxed in each other's company and I spent an age feasting on their tits especially Anna's, both gave excellent blow jobs and the first 30 mins (it didn't take me long for me to confirm i'd be extending to an hour) mainly consisted of them pleasuring me with one blowing and the offer offering her tits for me to suck on. Second half, I particularly enjoyed taking turns eating them both out and doing them both in doggy and I finished with Anna giving me a blow job. Took it up to an hour entwined in post-coital bliss. A wonderful session with two beautiful and friendly girls.  It even surpassed the threesome I had earlier in the week with Sanziana/Daniella at Palace. E200
 
I decided not to try and aim for a third session but leave on a high. The receptionist who was friendly (and reasonably fit) asked me how my sessions were and with which girls. I only had positive feedback to give on all three girls and get the sense it is a customer friendly place. Despite this, I doubt I will return to Living Room - a bit too cramped and not enough girls compared to the bigger girls though I appreciate I did visit on a Monday which must be the quietest day wherever you go. The cab back to my hotel just by the HBF cost just over E30.

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Day 5 - Tuesday 5 July, Oceans
 
This made my shortlist due to reports of one of all-time favourite FKK girls (probably in second place) Jennifer who is ex-Oase brunette with luscious lips being spotted. Sadly no sign of her but went with the attitude it would be a bonus if she was there so as not be disappointed. 
 
My way there was by getting a commuter train to Dusseldorf Rath. From there it is maybe 10-15 min walk though not the easiest to find. If you try walking, turn right out of the station, take the first right which is a curved road which will get you onto a dual carriageway called Theodorstabre where you turn left and cross the road. It is on the road just before the Total petrol station so another right turn. 
 
I got there at around 5pm again and it was E65 entry. They didn't ask whether I had got a cab which seems to be a point of contention whereby they charge you more. Were maybe 30-40 girls on at the time which perhaps went to a peak of 50. I would say the usual mix for a FKK - enough to keep most happy but not amazing and perhaps slightly below the Frankfurt clubs or comparable to Oase albeit I went to them over the weekend as opposed to a Tuesday. All the girls were wearing bras or bikinis and some were even wearing dresses. Although I've always liked lingerie have moved to the full nudity preference for a true FKK experience. Overall, I liked the outlay of the club - it's big and spanking new, decent outdoor area and the rooms are also fairly nice. The food was disappointing which might not be an issue save that I paid E30 for a fish meal which was bland and average. But of course it is the girls that make or break a club and the runners and riders (all Romanian) were:
 
15. Nellie : Lovely petite blonde with porcelain skin and a nice natural figure in her early to mid 20s. Had deluxe girl next door looks and gave a nice session consisting of a good blow job, some doggy and finished with a hand job. Only regret is I didn't make it a full hour and really let her indulge me. E50
 
16. Antonia: Next session was with a brownish/blonde with porn star/slutty looks, slim, nice natural tits though slightly droopy, fairly attractive but not breathtaking. Session was good - she is a friendly girl and consisted of her giving me a nice, prolonged blowjob. E50
 
17. Aidan and Oxana: I'm afraid this was the worst session I had in the whole 6 days. I made a series of rookie mistakes which could have prevented it. At Oceans some of the girls take turns doing belly dances whilst dressed in the belly dance garb which I've always found alluring. Aidan is a gorgeous young brunette with a striking similarity to Demi Moore and Oxana is a petite, young gorgeous blonde. I had my eye on them anyway but was totally captivated by their routine. After they finished, I followed them towards the changing rooms (despite not quite being ready for a third wind) and asked them to join me preferably with the outfits. They said they couldn't take the costumes but we went to a room anyway. They put on loud music and started gyrating which wasn't what I was interested in and they moved onto the bed with me. Started with Oxana blowing me for a bit before Aidan started. Was reasonable enough but they were going through the motions and I was struggling to get going.  Oxana was nuzzling on one of my nipples and I asked Aidan to do the same as it often gets me going but she refused saying it was extra! I told her it wasn't and look at her friend. She had a bit of a face on and was an uncomfortable atmosphere. She was half heartedly pulling me off and Oxana wasn't up to much either. Had enough and curtailed the session before I lost my temper. E100
 
I hung around for a while but it was getting late and the numbers were dropping off quickly. Decided to call it a night. When reception asked me how it was, told them generally positive but Aidan and Oxana were a big let down. She did say I should have told them at the time and she gave me a load of free entry cards. I doubt I'll be back as I much prefer Frankfurt and gave them to the cabbie (cab back to Dusseldorf HBF cost just under E30). Overall, the last session was a dampener but tried not it colour my prejudice against Oceans too much as it was the luck of the draw and I should have spent some time interviewing the girls rather than diving straight in.

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my post was on 5/9/2015 but no matter I'll be back there 3/9/2016 for my 4th trip.  both Living Room and Oceans are on my radar as places I need to try although I don't expect much of Oceans - it's too close to the airport and has a reputation as not so great because all the visitors are transients.  I'll redo Duisberg RLD (meh), Great Palace, Bernd's, Goldentime and possibly Acapulco & SKY.  Also on my list is PHG and Yin Yang, maybe a new FKK Beluga if it opens in time.

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Hey downandup,

not sure if you're already back, but Justin Case... or for others later. But being "almost" local, I can't help sharing some of my wisdom :D

I see you taking "greater Düsseldorf" as a rather large zone - Bernd's and YingYang to Great Palace is quite something! And the best area, frankly!

What I'd take in during the warm days is Bochum RLD, really nice, small, old fashioned, 92% ground level, some nice Thais! Beware the blackies though, they have a high rip-off percentage. Google maps find's it by the nick "Eierberg" (mountain of eggs), the correct address is "Im Winkel". Avoid Dortmund RLD, it's much like Oceans - because all the visitors are transients. Window shopping is okay when in the area, though.

GoldenTime, LivingRoom, PHG are definitely my recommendation and yes, Oceans and DolceVita (dus) ... how to say... maybe focus more on giving you a chance to show and spend our money than great service. Great Palace just gave up the actual FKK (= ladies really naked).

My current favorite clubs are two small /medium clubs in Dortmund: Neby and LuderLounge. 6-12 and 10-30 chicks respectively, but high service level at ~€30,- / room. Neby is not a place to spend a whole day, though!

And than there's the old chain of red carpet clubs - half a dozen places all over the area where service is just a bargain - each round (around 30 min) does include all the services the lady offers - always FOT to sometimes even anal, for a fixed € 30,-. Places are a little worn off, but chicks are young and well in shape. Mostly bulgarian/ romanian, oftentimes gypsy type.

Happy to answer any specific questions!

 

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Thanks Xavar.

I got back Sunday but these are the places I tried:

Golden Time - again too many visits (4) because I like it too much, plenty of familiar faces from earlier visits but also some new beauties too.

PHG - pleased with the place so it's now on my list of good clubs

Arabella - one of the RTC chain, great service for €30 entrance and same amount for a session

Acapulco - great for new & young (legal!) girls €40 + €40

Acapulco Gold - €20 early entry, very good small line up during the day

Bernd's - one trip and met a new girl that was not that great, it put Bernd's into perspective that if you don't get a great girl then the trip is wasted and entrance costs €70.

 

Some other comments from this and earlier trips

I skipped the RLD visit, Yin Tang, Sky,Oceans and Great Palace.  I'm glad I skipped GP if the girls are no longer nude as it's a good distance to drive back to my hotel.  Oceans was a 30 minute walk but when I got there it was far too early to go in and I was on my way to Bernd's later that day.

Dortmund was a little too far off and if I was to return to a RLD it would be Duisberg again as I hear that it's the 2nd largest RLD in Germany.  But I'm more of a FKK guy than anything else.

On the RTC clubs, I hear Romantika is closed and F39 / Freude 39 / Freudenbergerstrasse 39 has reopened by the old owner as an evening club from 16:00 - 01:00, prices are no longer complete service but now basic and you pay for extras.  I hear that the owner has regularly been playing with the prices and now the hours & services.  It's not a reliable stop and one girl who formerly worked there told me that it was a catastrophe.

I had done 2 trips to Grimberg before and the service there is good too.

My last two holiday's I went to Samya, but I don't like the place and I won't be returning.

World is good with some great looking girls, well worth driving from Frankfurt but a long drive from Dusseldorf.

Babylon has been great but distance is an issue

Don't drink at Yin Yang as the cops are on the border waiting to stop drunks and druggies.

Oceans is still getting bad press and the entry is variable when some people have free entry cards, discount cards, happy hour, and regular prices, extra's for taxi etc - and you still haven't gone with a girl.  They have a poor reputation on service too.

Magnum is awful, the quality is low and the worse they look the more they harass you.

Sky has Latina's but few look good, most are encumbered by age / looks / weight or a combination of these.

 

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On 16/9/2016 at 9:33 PM, downandup said:

My last two holiday's I went to Samya, but I don't like the place and I won't be returning.

Interesting, it's very popular with some guys, anything that particularly turns you off about it? Also as you were saying there's very little info about the clubs you visited so if you have time a more detailed report on any of them would be really useful, especially Bernd's. Was the new girl you met there Christine or Evelyn?

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 Wow, you did get around in short time... guess we have a similar taste in many aspects!

Thanks for sharing your view and insights, just some more of my personal ideas:

RLDs are not my thing for the business side either. But late in a warm summer night, I like the atmosphere, preferably with a beer and some local fastfood – Doner Kebap in Duisburg, Currywurst (=sausage) in Bochum.

Duisburg has the special thrill of "The fat Mexican", which is the local Bandidos' Headquarter and a nice place, if that's your thing. Having it on the other side of the street from the whorehouses secured be Angels even adds a little extra spice...

The size ... well, it probably depends on what you count. The area covered on the map, the number of rooms, the number of girls within the rooms... Duisburg *is* big in area and rooms! I just don't enjoy walking up and down stairways for hours with whole floors being empty. Empty of girls, at least! Bochum, while certainly smaller, has almost never a room-fill ratio of less than 40% at the busiest time of any given day!

For the RTCs: Management line is to optimize business in the best running places, Arabella, Grimberg and Venus. Luderland/ Leverkusen, Verena/ Dortmund and Romantika (maybe still Erotika/ Iserlohn? Not sure) serve as a sort of buffer and testbed for price- service combinations. One or the other of these might be closed for months. Sometime, it might be worth o start a new topic for those...

Freude – yep, desaster! Lots could be said about trying to establish a sort of Premium-RTC, but at this time... not even worth typing. Locals just stopping by might take advantage of the sometimes even free admission, though!

Dortmund *is* way out from D'dorf, and even even out-er with the usual traffic jam... However, Neby's is on the western outskirts, less than 10 mins from Freude. *When* the road allows it...

Babylon, I liked a lot. It was the only place i know in Germany to get a good Hoegaarden beer! And Eddi's Whisky selection tops most of the simpler Glasgow bars! Girls are easy to the eye and sometimes well educated, often east europe – russia, ukraine, poland.... There were occasional disussions when leaving, though: When the lady put some extras on my bill, cashed in and left. And I only had the counter-girl to argue with... not sure if that got sorted out! Have not been there recently. Did you pay the girl right after the "shared time"?

And last, thanks for that warning about coppers. Never saw them at YY (only been there twice), but pretty often from Villa Vertigo!

 

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I'll be visiting Dortmund this weekend.

First timer visiting a FKK and Saunaclub. Which one has the better looking girls and service for a non-German speaker?

Neby or LuderLounge?

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On 9/18/2016 at 10:05 AM, Xaver said:

For the RTCs: Management line is to optimize business in the best running places, Arabella, Grimberg and Venus. Luderland/ Leverkusen, Verena/ Dortmund and Romantika (maybe still Erotika/ Iserlohn? Not sure) serve as a sort of buffer and testbed for price- service combinations. One or the other of these might be closed for months. Sometime, it might be worth o start a new topic for those...

Freude – yep, desaster! Lots could be said about trying to establish a sort of Premium-RTC, but at this time... not even worth typing. Locals just stopping by might take advantage of the sometimes even free admission, though!

 

I believe that Arabella, Anabella (not a typo, it's near Bernd's) Grimberg, Romantika, Luderland, Verena and Romantika are all owned by the same guy and the girls are moved around as needed.  And some of these clubs can be closed at times if business is not good.  The owner keeps the prices stable there €30 entrance and €30 per session.

I think Freude is different although it's owned or operated by the same guy.  It's probably because it used to be FKK Salome, it's much larger than Grimberg or Arabella and thus more expensive to operate, when it's open there needs to be at least 20 girls just to make the place look inhabited, that takes girls away from the other clubs.  It's probably too big for the RTC type clubs and too small, shabby, and overpriced to be a good FKK with a poorer selection of girls.

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Neby or Luderlounge.... (though moving slightly away from Düsseldorf;)

For a firsttimer i'd very much opt for Luderlounge - it's bigger, lighter, easier, more girls with less dress (Neby some are even wrapped in towels) and even chances of some english with the girls... though only for a little chat! Service is completely nonverbal ;) and many are somewhat happy "not having to speak with a mouth full"!

Two point's for Neby: easier to reach by public transport and usually higher service level - most customers being regulars, the well experienced "mamasan" knows from the looks on punters' faces whether the room was good / "satisfying" or not. And ... well, ... helps the girls with feedback. Oh, and very few girls there even speak german - might level the field ;) Bulgarian /Roma- / anian can come in handy with those. But I always got along happy without ;D

downandup, yes, Anabella is another one of them and most things about Freude are right to the point. Only little glitch being, that "Salome" has been sold some time ago but still exists, independently with a different concept - "Sultan's Palace" style with Hamam and Arab food and music and customers. Weird style of male-female contact. And sstrikingly short room times... FKK (Dortmund) Aplerbeck also belonged to the group some time ago and now runs independently...

Johnbrawn, you might wanna check that out, too! Especially nice at parties!

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9 hours ago, Xaver said:

Neby or Luderlounge.... (though moving slightly away from Düsseldorf;)

For a firsttimer i'd very much opt for Luderlounge - it's bigger, lighter, easier, more girls with less dress (Neby some are even wrapped in towels) and even chances of some english with the girls... though only for a little chat! Service is completely nonverbal ;) and many are somewhat happy "not having to speak with a mouth full"!

Two point's for Neby: easier to reach by public transport and usually higher service level - most customers being regulars, the well experienced "mamasan" knows from the looks on punters' faces whether the room was good / "satisfying" or not. And ... well, ... helps the girls with feedback. Oh, and very few girls there even speak german - might level the field ;) Bulgarian /Roma- / anian can come in handy with those. But I always got along happy without ;D

Johnbrawn, you might wanna check that out, too! Especially nice at parties!

So I guess LuderLounge will be my first port of call. Will 200 euros be enough to have a good few sessions? I don't like to pop very quickly. If I can, I prefer a long session with a girl I liked. Is that permitted or is it frowned up on? Do they mind if you hog the pretty ones for a while or will other punters get upset?

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To me, life is too short to book girls longtime :D

But everybody's free! And since you're not there to please other males :frown: and women are self employed, it -anything!- is absolutely up the two of you...

LuLo usually has enough choice to have no man lonely... . However, some girls (who have proven great service to the regulars) are in high demand and really, your only chance of a ride with those is catching them on the way from the last room to the shower before your "competition".

The situation is a little different in places with different (=cheaper) price models - First of all, the all-inclusive ("package deal") places but also the RTCs, focussing on "large numbers".

Prices in Lulo are currently admission from €20,- (HH, till 2:00 pm), "official" room time 20min. 30€, 30min. 50€, (40min. 60€) and 60min. 80€ including BBJ and Fuck "with". So the Trend is "the longer the cheaper" and if you 've been happy with one for a short time, she's absolutely free to and usually will very gladly accept your offer of whatever... €100,- for 90 min. Knowing it saves her couch time, waiting for the next guest.

Extras are also negotiable, but expect around 10 or 20 for come-in-mouth and 50 for anal - if offered!

So 200,- works for most visits, but with any chance of being over-stimulated, I usually have a little extra with me, hidden ... wherever :)

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