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Moving On Up From "cheap" Ee Indies ?

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Hi,

Recently I've been visiting a few central / east London indies found on the pink site (mostly Polish/Romanian), for around 60-80 half hour or 120/hr

To be honest in spite of having picked them for good reviews and great pictures, I've most often been let down by service and especially looks : they're GNDs for the most part and not very enthusiastic. I've found those 30min meets to be only a modest step up from Soho WGs.

 

The whole point of the hobby for me is to sleep with more inaccessible girls, not ones I could easily pull in a bar, so I'm ready to spend a bit more if required.
 

Is it that difficult to find porn-level looks in WGs ? Where should one be looking ?

I'm talking about slim (slightly curvy bottoms are fine I suppose, any belly flabbiness isn't), busty & firm, young with nice lingerie, make up and a friendly attitude.

Are you all but guaranteed almost-model-looking girls for real at higher end places like Hamilton/Bijoux around the 300/hr mark ?  Or would most EEs at Hotcollection, etc around 150-250 already fit that bill well enough ?

To give you another data point, I've been to a Phoenix club party recently that had an incredibly good looking line-up in pictures, but only really found 1-2 of them to be that hot.

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It is a truth seemingly universally acknowledged that price is not necessarily a reflection of quality or service both in the punting world and in the world generally - take restaurants as an example - I have eaten in Michelin start and local family owned Italian - often local owned Italian wins hands down over and above Michelin star and I would have paid a fraction of what I would pay in a Michelin.

 

Having said that I have eaten in some top quality restaurants that just take your breath away with the quality of food and service.

 

Likewise I have paid £200 per hour, £300 per hour, and had a fantastic time (Hamiltons, Bijoux) I have paid £120-£150 and equally had a great time......

 

I think the reason its called punting because regardless of diligence and price paid punting always involves an element of risk based on certain intangible and personal taste -  chemistry, connection etc.

 

I see regular ladies who are in the £150-£180 bracket and am often amazed by the quality of service -  what I do know is that I am prepared too pay anywhere between £150-£300 per hour and my experience of punting has been very happy indeed.

 

Interestingly and for what it is worth - I have found that I don't do great with Eastern European ladies or Asian ladies (Thai)  -  I am sure many are fantastic but it hasn't been my experience.

 

I prefer British ladies, what I would call Northern European, North American and South American - so its all about taste and what floats your boat and what you comfortable spending.

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I felt exactly the same way as you do when I started. What's the point unless you are with an absolute knockout of a woman you would never get to be with in real civilian life, right?

 

Be careful expecting guarantees just because a women is with an agency. The top agencies are good of course but some providers are far better than others and that's what the reviews section is for. PM me for suggestions if you like but take advantage of the forum discussions on the best reviewed women. You'll find some stunners, trust me.

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This is why I mostly see Hungarians. I've always had middling to bad experiences with Poles and Romanians. Hungarians are different. Oh and one Czech - Platinum Cindy - she was superb.

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Hi,

Recently I've been visiting a few central / east London indies found on the pink site (mostly Polish/Romanian), for around 60-80 half hour or 120/hr

To be honest in spite of having picked them for good reviews and great pictures, I've most often been let down by service and especially looks : they're GNDs for the most part and not very enthusiastic. I've found those 30min meets to be only a modest step up from Soho WGs.

 

The whole point of the hobby for me is to sleep with more inaccessible girls, not ones I could easily pull in a bar, so I'm ready to spend a bit more if required.

 

Is it that difficult to find porn-level looks in WGs ? Where should one be looking ?

I'm talking about slim (slightly curvy bottoms are fine I suppose, any belly flabbiness isn't), busty & firm, young with nice lingerie, make up and a friendly attitude.

Are you all but guaranteed almost-model-looking girls for real at higher end places like Hamilton/Bijoux around the 300/hr mark ?  Or would most EEs at Hotcollection, etc around 150-250 already fit that bill well enough ?

To give you another data point, I've been to a Phoenix club party recently that had an incredibly good looking line-up in pictures, but only really found 1-2 of them to be that hot.

 

What is porn level look?

 

The rest should be easy,  on AW most of the girls have pictures taken by themselves so heavy photoshop is out of the order: I doubt you will meet many girls pretending to be slim if they are 2-3 sizes bigger in real life.  Also the prices are pretty decent, by doing your research you will get a feel if something is wrong with a particular girl.  

 

Also I would suspect that most of the young girls have or had a 'manager' who have brought them here in the recent years: I doubt they would have had the money to come from their countries here and pay for the transport, then thousands of pounds to secure the rent for a flat and knowing what is going on in the UK.  It takes a certain type of 'street smart' girl to give up on the life in their countries and come here instead of going to Uni etc

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I'm talking about slim (slightly curvy bottoms are fine I suppose, any belly flabbiness isn't), busty & firm, young with nice lingerie, make up and a friendly attitude.

Are you all but guaranteed almost-model-looking girls for real at higher end places like Hamilton/Bijoux around the 300/hr mark ?  Or would most EEs at Hotcollection, etc around 150-250 already fit that bill well enough ?

 

Two general points:

1) There are no hard and fast rules for any of these agencies

2) Research, research, research - you will vastly improve your chances of a good experience.

 

Keeping in mind that the above two principles always apply - these are my general experiences:

 

With Hamiltons/Bijoux there is no guarantee of looks or service even at the £300 mark. The superb experiences I have had with them have been with extensively reviewed girls or personal recommendations from other punters. However, the handful of girls I have met have all been excellent service-wise - an absolute stunner looks-wise is more rare, but I always find that a punt is made more by the service than the looks (I am making the assumption she is not butt-ugly!). However I have heard of more than one girl from these agencies who has provided a lacklustre service to other punters.

 

With Maxes typically the girls who last are more sexually aggressive but not necessarily stunning - the agency is focused on providing the services advertised and the girls work at a frenetic pace and often burn out quickly and move to other agencies if they can't keep up. This is still the most consistent agency in my experience in terms of getting services that are advertised and has lots of girls with whom you cannot go wrong service-wise but fewer and fewer stunning girls.

 

I have started using HC more recently (in the last year or so) and have had excellent experiences with all the girls I have met - of 5 that I met, all were very good to excellent experiences and all were very good looking. If you do your research right, HC and other similar EE agencies have some gems but if you don't do the research, you have a reasonable likelihood of being disappointed since they are big fans of Photoshop. 

 

HOD in general seem to have better looking women on average than they used to 2-3 years back - I haven't had a bad experience there in a long long time, though a couple have been unexceptional. Several on the other hand have been superb. 

 

However my last punt which was with a girl not from any of these agencies demonstrates why this is hobby is called 'punting' 

 

 - girl was recommended highly on the forums by one punter (she had been on my radar but had not taken the plunge until I saw the recent glowing praise)

 - she provided or offered to provide all the services advertised (more on that)

 - her body was easily one of the best I have ever come across in years (size 6-8, perfect B/C cup breasts, perfect skin, cute smile and toned all over with just a fraction extra on the butt)

 - cute face and chirpy personality

 

 - she kept saying don't do this don't do that when changing positions - was only up for absolutely regular missionary and doggy

 - kept breaking the rhythm of the punt

 - kept asking me if I was upset with her (I was after a point but didn't say it since nothing kills the punt and burns your money faster)

 

So overall she did everything on the tin, was physically stunning - but it still was a poor punt for me. And I fully understand why the punter who recommended her did so - if you want to fuck a nubile young cute girl with a stunning body in a couple of standard positions without talking much, she's probably perfect!

 

In general I have found that I have far better punts on average than a few years ago due to having more regulars and doing better research. 

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Hi,

Recently I've been visiting a few central / east London indies found on the pink site (mostly Polish/Romanian), for around 60-80 half hour or 120/hr

To be honest in spite of having picked them for good reviews and great pictures, I've most often been let down by service and especially looks : they're GNDs for the most part and not very enthusiastic. I've found those 30min meets to be only a modest step up from Soho WGs.

 

The whole point of the hobby for me is to sleep with more inaccessible girls, not ones I could easily pull in a bar, so I'm ready to spend a bit more if required.

 

Is it that difficult to find porn-level looks in WGs ? Where should one be looking ?

I'm talking about slim (slightly curvy bottoms are fine I suppose, any belly flabbiness isn't), busty & firm, young with nice lingerie, make up and a friendly attitude.

Are you all but guaranteed almost-model-looking girls for real at higher end places like Hamilton/Bijoux around the 300/hr mark ?  Or would most EEs at Hotcollection, etc around 150-250 already fit that bill well enough ?

To give you another data point, I've been to a Phoenix club party recently that had an incredibly good looking line-up in pictures, but only really found 1-2 of them to be that hot.

Overall, I've found Bijoux Escorts and ALLURE to provide the 'best' looking English girls, that have the bedroom skills also.

 

London Photo Models can be good also for English girls, but their prices can be higher than Bijoux Escorts and ALLURE.

 

A few years ago, I'd have recommended Max's Angels at this level.  Though unfortunately, they don't select the best looking girls anymore.

 

I've found AW to be the best way to find the best looking and highly skilled independent English girls.  Prices are usually much lower than the above agencies.

 

My personal preference is English girls.  I got into this business, so I could fuck and sleep with the hottest English girls!

 

I never set a budget, so I get the best choice.  I still have to be careful, and do my research.  Not nice looking, and poor servicing girls are at the 'low' price end, and at the high price end!  So I always check I'm happy with everything 'before' booking to minimise possible problems.

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Hi,

Recently I've been visiting a few central / east London indies found on the pink site (mostly Polish/Romanian), for around 60-80 half hour or 120/hr

To be honest in spite of having picked them for good reviews and great pictures, I've most often been let down by service and especially looks : they're GNDs for the most part and not very enthusiastic. I've found those 30min meets to be only a modest step up from Soho WGs.

 

The whole point of the hobby for me is to sleep with more inaccessible girls, not ones I could easily pull in a bar, so I'm ready to spend a bit more if required.

 

Is it that difficult to find porn-level looks in WGs ? Where should one be looking ?

I'm talking about slim (slightly curvy bottoms are fine I suppose, any belly flabbiness isn't), busty & firm, young with nice lingerie, make up and a friendly attitude.

Are you all but guaranteed almost-model-looking girls for real at higher end places like Hamilton/Bijoux around the 300/hr mark ?  Or would most EEs at Hotcollection, etc around 150-250 already fit that bill well enough ?

To give you another data point, I've been to a Phoenix club party recently that had an incredibly good looking line-up in pictures, but only really found 1-2 of them to be that hot.

what is it with men putting the 120ph girls down recently?#?

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what is it with men putting the 120ph girls down recently?#?

 

I've had a brilliant experience with a lady who charges <£120 p/h so it isn't all men putting them down, just some.

 

As some have said here before, and will inevitably say again...

 

Price doesn't always correlate with experience.

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I've had a brilliant experience with a lady who charges <£120 p/h so it isn't all men putting them down, just some...

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I had a fantastic time with a highly popular and well reviewed young Eurasian beauty from AW last week who charges £100ph. Wholly inaccessible for most guys I suspect, - mid-20's, beautiful model face, smooth olive skin, mouth watering toned body with an infectious personality. VFM wise can't be beaten for GFE service - higher rates doesn't guarantee a superior service or service provider.

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Thanks everyone, and certainly feel free to PM me recommendations for the unnamed ladies some of you refer to  :)

 

What is porn level look?

 

I meant "model looks" which probably is very subjective, but to me means: size 8 or so, leggy, slim, toned, and possibly busty. 
I've just noticed Mia & Mylene from Allure for instance, whose lovely pictures (especially the ones of their incredible bottoms) fit that description perfectly. I haven't found much feedback on their services or accuracy of pictures, though. 

If anyone can recommend other girls (including indies) who look like this in the flesh and provide a good service, I'm all ears !

 

It is a truth seemingly universally acknowledged that price is not necessarily a reflection of quality or service

 

Indeed this is what I've read here for years, which is why I kept trying well reviewed central London EE girls from AW at around £120/hr. But to reiterate, reality was a let down compared to pictures almost every time.

I even nearly wondered at some point if Photoshop had spoilt me forever for what a gorgeous woman should look like naked and in the flesh !

 

But I still very often come across girls in porn clips that I find absolutely stunning, and there is no such thing as Photoshop here, possibly just make up & good lighting.

So I'm just looking for equally good looking ones that are escorts :) 

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As Rebecca said, go instead for girls who charge less, yet they take their own pictures.  You cannot go wrong.  Forget 'model looks' aka high photoshop and disappointment in real life.  There are plenty of great English girls around, if this is what you fancy.

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I had a fantastic time with a highly popular and well reviewed young Eurasian beauty from AW last week who charges £100ph. Wholly inaccessible for most guys I suspect, - mid-20's, beautiful model face, smooth olive skin, mouth watering toned body with an infectious personality. VFM wise can't be beaten for GFE service - higher rates doesn't guarantee a superior service or service provider.

Who may I ask?

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I had a fantastic time with a highly popular and well reviewed young Eurasian beauty from AW last week who charges £100ph. Wholly inaccessible for most guys I suspect, - mid-20's, beautiful model face, smooth olive skin, mouth watering toned body with an infectious personality. VFM wise can't be beaten for GFE service - higher rates doesn't guarantee a superior service or service provider.

Surely this is Vee?

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Ha - just saw this as I posted the previous one :P  - should have read a bit further before doing so!

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Ha - just saw this as I posted the previous one :P - should have read a bit further before doing so!

Yup - a bit too quick on the draw there Gandalf but correctly identified nonetheless.

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Oh yes. Services somewhat restricted, but who cares? What a looker! Good price too.

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Does exactly what it says on the tin as per her AW profile which is fully indicative so no PSE. Pack your fluffy hat and enjoy some highly pleasurable GFE pampering from one of the most attractive, responsive and interesting girls you are ever likely to meet in any arena.

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I saw her a few years ago. Definitely GFE. Not much outside of vanilla service, but for the price and looks it's worth it. I didn't return, but others may find reason to. I prefer CIM/COF, even in the non-WG dating world, so it was sub-par of GFE for me. But again, everyones different. She left me a glowing review on AW, so that was good for the ego ;)

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...The whole point of the hobby for me is to sleep with more inaccessible girls, not ones I could easily pull in a bar, so I'm ready to spend a bit more if required.

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Are you all but guaranteed almost-model-looking girls for real at higher end places like Hamilton/Bijoux around the 300/hr mark ?

Yes, because they meet all of the escorts they represent before their photos go up on their sites. Agencies like Hamiltons and Bijoux have well and truly earned their fantastic reputations in the escorting world. The ladies that look modeleqsue on their photos are like that in person. I've met enough of them to confidently say that.

Anyone doubting the reliability of professional photos should take a look at Eve's selfies on the Hamiltons site and compare them with her pro shots on her website http://www.london-escort-elle.com Now that's how to do selfies! And surprise surprise..she looks like exactly the same person! A website, be it independent or agency, is our shop window. Even the likes of McDonald's flogging burgers for 99p use professional photos, so at a few hundred pounds it more than makes sense to dress your shop window nicely :) (Unless one is as super talented as Eve at the selfie malarkey).

Rebecca, you certainly couldn't be put down. If you were in London at £120p/h your photo wouldn't stop ringing!x

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Thank you jasmine. I guess you mean phone not photox

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Thank you jasmine. I guess you mean phone not photox

Haha! Yes I did x

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If it's porn-level looks you want, why not go the whole hog and treat yourself to a meeting with a pornstar?

 

There is a comprehensive list of pornstars advertising on AW on the net and other forums, and to add to that, I have met the following;

 

Alice Romain - through porn escort xxx (tours london sometimes) - also with filming - gorgeous, sweet, stunning, friendly, overall a great meeting and a true fantasy fulfilled

 

Stacy Saran - through Hamiltons - I love that slightly milf look and Stacy has it - but her body is unreal - more like a gym hard bodied 21 year old - close to perfect - very easy to talk to, kooky, fun, also filmed this meet and another great meeting

 

As far as stunning looks goes, I would add the following as close ot the top of my personal list (clearly a subjective area) - Sexy Sandra (aka Jessica on Admirals - just soo hot, incredibly she looks like her pics - I was shocked how pretty she was) - Gorgeous Almma from AW - very patchy service but absolutely stunning girl - Anna Marie X (AW milf) - hotttt body and nice face (candid pics show how she looks now) - good service and THAT body - Taylor Jay (AW) - superhot body - nice girl - based in Kent - Emily's Creme Brulee (AW) - wow - sensual and stunning - vanilla GFE but cracking looks and a nice girl

 

Final list of girls on my HL with repuation of beauty but I have not met myself yet;

 

Kler

Pornstar Melissa 69

Khloe Diaz

Olivia Rose of London

Escort Star

 

Happy punting - please feed back if you make some progress :)

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If it's porn-level looks you want, why not go the whole hog and treat yourself to a meeting with a pornstar?

 

There is a comprehensive list of pornstars advertising on AW on the net and other forums, and to add to that, I have met the following;

 

Alice Romain - through porn escort xxx (tours london sometimes) - also with filming - gorgeous, sweet, stunning, friendly, overall a great meeting and a true fantasy fulfilled

 

Stacy Saran - through Hamiltons - I love that slightly milf look and Stacy has it - but her body is unreal - more like a gym hard bodied 21 year old - close to perfect - very easy to talk to, kooky, fun, also filmed this meet and another great meeting

 

As far as stunning looks goes, I would add the following as close ot the top of my personal list (clearly a subjective area) - Sexy Sandra (aka Jessica on Admirals - just soo hot, incredibly she looks like her pics - I was shocked how pretty she was) - Gorgeous Almma from AW - very patchy service but absolutely stunning girl - Anna Marie X (AW milf) - hotttt body and nice face (candid pics show how she looks now) - good service and THAT body - Taylor Jay (AW) - superhot body - nice girl - based in Kent - Emily's Creme Brulee (AW) - wow - sensual and stunning - vanilla GFE but cracking looks and a nice girl

 

Final list of girls on my HL with repuation of beauty but I have not met myself yet;

 

Kler

Pornstar Melissa 69

Khloe Diaz

Olivia Rose of London

Escort Star

 

Happy punting - please feed back if you make some progress :)

Olivia Rose has a fantastic figure and is also a very nice girl. I was already aware of Khloe Diaz, Stacey Saran and Emily's Creme Brûlée and each looks amazing. I wasn't aware of the others though and will look into them so thanks.  

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