YoungHert85

To See Or Not To See ... That Is The Question

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Hi.  Until a couple of years ago I was in an LTR that started in my mid-teens (I'm now 30) and so I've never experienced any other kind of environment for intimate activity.  I like to think that I'm outgoing and approachable, as well as hopefully a little interesting, but I'm also totally blind.  As a singleton considering the world of GFE and so on, I'd appreciate honest thoughts from independents and service providers on how you would feel if approached for a booking by someone with my condition.  Would you feel uncomfortable, not knowing how to behave or being influenced by beliefs about disability?  How would you feel about me not being able to visually appreciate the way that you present yourself (your outfits, hair, figure, etc) ... would you be grateful for the chance to describe and demonstrate through touch or would you feel that your efforts are wasted on somebody who cannot look at you and appreciate your full wonder?  Also, presuming that you were comfortable and open-minded, what would your advice be about approaching bookings?  Are incalls better than outcalls because locations are rarely disclosed easily and a taxi or other sighted assistance might be required to reach a destination, or would you/your agency be willing to meet and assist from a public landmark (bus station, restaurant, etc) close to your outcall location?  Any other thoughts/issues that you can think of also appreciated.  Equally, if you are a potential or existing client with a visual impairment or other disability, I'd love to hear your advice and experiences related to service provision and the quality of individual interactions.  From all sides, honesty is key to me here ... please don't say something just to put a positive/negative light on things/people or to make me feel comfortable - I wouldn't have asked the question if I didn't want to know the truth so your honesty is all that I ask for. :)  Thank you.

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A Shakespearean reference in the thread title...I do appreciate a bit of culture on these boards.

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...oh I am the same - you can't beat an allusion to Shakespeare can you....

 

I not qualified to advice the OP but can point him to:  http://www.tlc-trust.org.uk/page6.html in the hope that it may help and so 'once more unto the breach..'

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Hi Youngheart,

 

I know that your questions are specifically directed at the girls, but as a punter I think that you'll be surprised at how many genuine and emphatic escorts there are - in fact many specifically list meeting with disabled clients amongst their services.

 

I myself have a relatively minor disability (I'm an ex-cancer laryngectomee) and have met over 50 different escorts over the last couple of years with only a "I have a weird voice" warning in advance. Only one has ever batted an eyelid but I think that she was stoned!

 

Maybe pick an Oriental if you like that kind of girl - they are generally very caring and invariably work in near total darkness so you'll be in the same boat as the rest of us!

 

I would imagine that you have enhanced senses of smell and taste and that gives you a distinct advantage over the average punter - use it well! I believe that many girls would find you a fascinating and challenging customer.

 

The agencies that I've used have always given the exact address on the morning of the meeting and I'm sure that the better ones will "make a plan" for you.

 

By the way, I always write in green text so use your imagination!

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I wonder how often something like this has been addressed, if ever! You might be the first, YoungHert85. :) But it's a very valid question/concern!

 

I would like to say that lots of escorts would be at the very least open minded and willing to work with you to find a solution. There are also probably many who are happy to try and accommodate. Obviously, you want to be up front when you approach, to allow for complete honesty and a good experience. 

 

Regardless of independent or agency, I think you will have a wonderful experience and be well looked after with the right girl. :) Good luck!

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It wouldn't faze me. I could easily adapt my normal routine and meet you at a cafe or bus stop near my house, and I'm sure many women would be the same. 

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Sorry if I sound like a muppet but any ideas how the OP is reading the responses if he is blind?

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Probably using the same technology that enabled him to write  his original post.

 

I suppose he could have said ' My kingdom for a whore !'

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Hello

 

I have met with a blind client before, he explained upfront and just simply asked me if I could meet him downstairs when he arrived in the cab, he then explained his personal requirements for the booking, It was that simple. 

 

He rang when he got to the tube and I directed him to the cab office and he got himself here and I just took his arm to assist him up the stairs. from then on it was just like any other booking really. Although I felt mindful of his blindness, it didn't change the booking hugely from my usual GFE session! 

 

I decided to dress nicely and put make up on when I met my blind client because even though I knew he wouldn't be able to see me I felt the need to put in the same effort that I do with all clients- whether he could tell this or not I don't know! I even found myself tidying up as normal! 

 

I think my best advice to the OP is to get some recommendations - maybe asking on here the kind of woman he'd like to meet- age, location and any other preferences and I'm sure someone will be able to advise using their judgement on whether their recommended escort would be comfortable with seeing a blind person. 

 

I think there will be some women who are uncomfortable and also, if I'm totally honest (which was asked for!) when I was first called I was a little hesitant just in case it was some kind of dodgy way of getting me to meet someone outside which I wouldn't normally do. I'm afraid doing this job does make you a little paranoid- there are plenty of tales of timewasters and those trying it on to get an escort to meet them outside or bypass their usual rules and processes.  I used my spidey sense and *knew* my blind client was genuine, but there may be some women who dismiss it immediately for this reason. 

 

Incidentally, I found myself waving goodbye when my client left in his cab! 

 

Hope that helps a bit! 

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I used to see a blind guy, had lots of fun till  his dog started growling at the bottom of the bed one day, guess she decided she didnt like me anymore.

 

I would say to the OP that if you are completely blind be very careful regarding outcalls to your home, there are some in the industry that would try to use your blindness to aid their nefarious ways. Just be careful

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If you search on Adultwork, under "Preferences" it says "Show me people who like..." and then you tick the box next to "Disabled Clients". I have a mobility problem and use a walking frame but I've met lots of friendly, caring escorts who were happy to have me as a client. I'm sure that there will be many escorts happy to see you too.

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...oh I am the same - you can't beat an allusion to Shakespeare can you....

 

I not qualified to advice the OP but can point him to:  http://www.tlc-trust.org.uk/page6.html in the hope that it may help and so 'once more unto the breach..'

 

Thanks very much for this Happy Punter.  I've never heard of TLC before and that page seems to offer lots of sensible advice to potential service providers.  I don't think I'd use them directly as there seems to be quite a strong focus on need rather than desire and, although the two can often become intertwined, I'm fortunate enough to have full physical abilities and to be able to remove the bodily "nneed" for myself if I so wish.  Yes, I feel a "need" for intimacy but I consider that to be related to my existence as a human being rather than somebody with a visual impairment, so I still consider it a desire ... I guess it comes down to the way you approach things.  However, this isn't disrespecting (or being ungrateful for) your post ... it was very interesting to learn about the difficulties experienced by people with different disabilities and I definitely think more WGs should join to widen the choices available to the site's visitors.  Cheers!

 

Oh, and as for Shakespearean references, I think the more the merrier as long as allusions to pucking and bottoming are kept to a minimum ha ha ha.

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I used to see a blind guy and how we did it was he got off at the train station and into a station taxi and I would wait for him in the courtyard and escort him into my apartment block into the lift and straight into my flat.It wasn't an issue.

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Hello

 

I have met with a blind client before, he explained upfront and just simply asked me if I could meet him downstairs when he arrived in the cab, he then explained his personal requirements for the booking, It was that simple. 

 

He rang when he got to the tube and I directed him to the cab office and he got himself here and I just took his arm to assist him up the stairs. from then on it was just like any other booking really. Although I felt mindful of his blindness, it didn't change the booking hugely from my usual GFE session! 

 

I decided to dress nicely and put make up on when I met my blind client because even though I knew he wouldn't be able to see me I felt the need to put in the same effort that I do with all clients- whether he could tell this or not I don't know! I even found myself tidying up as normal! 

 

I think my best advice to the OP is to get some recommendations - maybe asking on here the kind of woman he'd like to meet- age, location and any other preferences and I'm sure someone will be able to advise using their judgement on whether their recommended escort would be comfortable with seeing a blind person. 

 

I think there will be some women who are uncomfortable and also, if I'm totally honest (which was asked for!) when I was first called I was a little hesitant just in case it was some kind of dodgy way of getting me to meet someone outside which I wouldn't normally do. I'm afraid doing this job does make you a little paranoid- there are plenty of tales of timewasters and those trying it on to get an escort to meet them outside or bypass their usual rules and processes.  I used my spidey sense and *knew* my blind client was genuine, but there may be some women who dismiss it immediately for this reason. 

 

Incidentally, I found myself waving goodbye when my client left in his cab! 

 

Hope that helps a bit! 

 

Hi MinxyLydia.  Thanks for posting and for an honest sharing of your experiences and approach.  I'd hope that most ladies would follow your thought processes - to me, a visually impaired client is the same as any other in the sense that everybody deserves the same level of attention and effort (and your waving goodbye at the end shows that you viewed your client as being the same as a sighted person).  After all, how many people might your blind client refer, bearing in mind that this isn't the sort of thing that most people openly chat about on the street and so knowledge is limited?  That kind of ties in with Faye's post too ... I suspect I might be the first member of my ilk too, partially because finance is often an issue for people in my position (indeed, I'm not blessed with gold and silver and would need to be seriously interested to take a chance with something like this that I've never experienced before), but more likely I suspect it's that most (but certainly not all) blind people are sheltered and are ignorant of the opportunities which might be out there.  It's nice and easy to teach about technology, talking timers and so on, but your specialist institution or local authority isn't going to open eyes to the full wonders of the world. :)

 

Anyway, I'm sure your client appreciated the effort that you put in ... possibly he was able to detect some of the things that you had done (and I'm sure that the tidiness of the environment was a great reassurance to him as it will have made navigation easier), but even for those things which he found harder to pick out for himself just the knowledge of having you describe or show him how you prepared will have meant a lot and shown him that you were treating him as an equal.  By the way ladies, please don't think that you can or should describe outfits/appearances/preparations that simply aren't real ... you'll very likely get caught out and, anyway, it's truly disrespectful/unprofessional and gives you no credibility at all.

 

As to the honesty about feeling mindful and uncomfortable, this is completely understandable ... this is often the case in mainstream society so it's not surprising that this creeps into this part of people's psyches like any other.  As to the concerns about your own safety, these are paramount ... it's vital that you ensure your own safety and anybody who judges you for this is completely out of line.  It's a shame that an honest person might miss out because of the misguided actions of others but that's not your fault at all. :)

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Sorry if I sound like a muppet but any ideas how the OP is reading the responses if he is blind?

 

Hey FirstPuntLuck!  You're not being a muppet at all and I always prefer getting asked questions to people making presumptions. :D  I've got a normal laptop with an extra piece of software on it that reads whatever's on the screen ... this means it'll read what's been written or what I'm writing.  Something similar is VoiceOver on Apple Macs/iPhones/etc but I prefer my laptop to an iDevice for typing as it's generally quicker.  Hope that helps but feel free to ask anything you think of. :)

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I used to see a blind guy, had lots of fun till  his dog started growling at the bottom of the bed one day, guess she decided she didnt like me anymore.

 

I would say to the OP that if you are completely blind be very careful regarding outcalls to your home, there are some in the industry that would try to use your blindness to aid their nefarious ways. Just be careful

 

Well, you'll be pleased to know that I don't have a dog ... I just find obstacles by waving my long white stick about (it obviously hasn't seen the sunlight for a while lol).  See, even being blind can be hugely entertaining! :D

 

On a serious note, thanks for the point about less-than-suitable girls.  This is something that had occurred to me and, although I'm very independent, I'd also be very self-conscious about whether my place is presentable.  I mean, I know how to do all the essentials but I'm sure someone with sight would perhaps do them more effectively. :(  At the end of the day, for me an arrangement like this should be mutually beneficial and that means making sure that my partner in crime is comfortable and happy ... not just me. :)

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Hi.  Until a couple of years ago I was in an LTR that started in my mid-teens (I'm now 30) and so I've never experienced any other kind of environment for intimate activity.  I like to think that I'm outgoing and approachable, as well as hopefully a little interesting, but I'm also totally blind.  As a singleton considering the world of GFE and so on, I'd appreciate honest thoughts from independents and service providers on how you would feel if approached for a booking by someone with my condition.  Would you feel uncomfortable, not knowing how to behave or being influenced by beliefs about disability?  How would you feel about me not being able to visually appreciate the way that you present yourself (your outfits, hair, figure, etc) ... would you be grateful for the chance to describe and demonstrate through touch or would you feel that your efforts are wasted on somebody who cannot look at you and appreciate your full wonder?  Also, presuming that you were comfortable and open-minded, what would your advice be about approaching bookings?  Are incalls better than outcalls because locations are rarely disclosed easily and a taxi or other sighted assistance might be required to reach a destination, or would you/your agency be willing to meet and assist from a public landmark (bus station, restaurant, etc) close to your outcall location?  Any other thoughts/issues that you can think of also appreciated.  Equally, if you are a potential or existing client with a visual impairment or other disability, I'd love to hear your advice and experiences related to service provision and the quality of individual interactions.  From all sides, honesty is key to me here ... please don't say something just to put a positive/negative light on things/people or to make me feel comfortable - I wouldn't have asked the question if I didn't want to know the truth so your honesty is all that I ask for. :)  Thank you.

 

 

Some questions for you Have you always been blind?    Who are your eyes when selecting an escort? Do your eyes select them or are you the one that chooses?

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 I believe that many girls would find you a fascinating and challenging customer.

 

 

I don't find blind people 'fascinating'  they're just normal people who just happen to be blind?   All clients present a challenge, being blind wont make it any moreso?   

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Some questions for you Have you always been blind?    Who are your eyes when selecting an escort? Do your eyes select them or are you the one that chooses?

 

Hi EnjoyEmily.  I've always been blind - I was born with poor sight and experienced a haemorrhage at the age of 20 months which left the back of my eyes scarred.  I can see light and dark in one but no shapes/outlines/etc and nothing in the other.  This has always made appearance secondary to personality and shared interests when considering relationships and I'm totally new to this arena so it's never been something I've had to really concern myself with.  Having been married for nine years and with the same girl for four years before that, I knew the details of my mate intimately and didn't have to concern myself with these issues.  Since then I have occasionally asked a close sighted friend for descriptions of prospective allies, but these were generally social media profiles.  Whether or not someone can give a description, a lot of visual opinions about beauty and aesthetics are subjective so it's a very tricky area to deal with.  Since exploring this new realm of making connections I've simply read any information that is available but this clearly doesn't give the same level of understanding or assistance in identifying somebody as it would for a sighted person who can look at galleries of pictures.  It also means that I have to take for granted that what I read or am told is true and this is why I mentioned honesty in a previous post ... I don't know anybody who has deliberately told untruths but I would consider anybody who did that to be taking advantage of somebody and a situation which is beyond their control, exploiting that person when they have no way of defending themselves.  Sorry if this sounds harsh, and I know that the majority of people would never do this so I'm not suggesting that bad practices are widespread, but I'm sure you can understand why I feel so strongly about it. :)  At the end of the day, unless anyone has any advice, for me it's about a gut reaction and taking as much care as possible to research and verify any resources that might be available.

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I used to see a blind guy, had lots of fun till  his dog started growling at the bottom of the bed one day, guess she decided she didnt like me anymore.

 

Sorry Chloe, this really made me laugh! Was it not off putting with the dog watching and the poor thing was probably traumatised watching you do all manner of rude things to it's owner! :)

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Great to read the positive comments from the escorts and no surprise either.

 

I was working down the thread to comment but my query has already been raised by EnjoyEmily.

 

If you do not have a person who will and can help make the initial selection and arrangements that seems an issue that needs to be addressed (but I suspect you have considered this already).

 

I wonder if you would be happy to tell the escorts on this thread where you are (if your nickname is a clue it still might help to be more specific - by private message if you prefer except that I think you need to have posted more than you have so far before you can use this method) and someone might know of an agency or suitable independent escort to suggest to you.

 

The issue is taken more seriously in recent years - for example there is an organisation called Paradoxies that was specifically set up in conjunction with medical professionals to facilitate meetings between physically disadvantaged members of the public and service providers.

 

Best wishes

 

VLM

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Great to read the positive comments from the escorts and no surprise either.

 

I was working down the thread to comment but my query has already been raised by EnjoyEmily.

 

If you do not have a person who will and can help make the initial selection and arrangements that seems an issue that needs to be addressed (but I suspect you have considered this already).

 

I wonder if you would be happy to tell the escorts on this thread where you are (if your nickname is a clue it still might help to be more specific - by private message if you prefer except that I think you need to have posted more than you have so far before you can use this method) and someone might know of an agency or suitable independent escort to suggest to you.

 

The issue is taken more seriously in recent years - for example there is an organisation called Paradoxies that was specifically set up in conjunction with medical professionals to facilitate meetings between physically disadvantaged members of the public and service providers.

 

Best wishes

 

VLM

 

 

HI VLM.  Thanks for your thoughts.  As per my recent comment (which hadn't been approved when you posted), the selection process is a tricky area but there's an element of risk for everybody in this line of activity (I know mine is more pronounced because of my lack of sight), so I guess it's just something to be aware of and learn to deal with as time passes (any suggestions welcome from anyone here though). :)

 

To everyone regarding the question of location, my username is indeed a clue (some of you may have spotted it).  I'm in Stevenage in Hertfordshire, South-East England.  It's about 35 miles north of Central London which is easily accessible by train but this naturally costs and London can be very difficult to navigate as it's so busy and manic (crossing hectic roads in London isn't like crossing busy roads anywhere else in my experience and you can't call a taxi company for a ride so easily ... plus the cost of cabs is extortionate!).  Regarding local agencies, I'm aware of Impulse Escorts and they seem to have a very good-quality site, but I couldn't find them when I searched on here so have been unable to get any opinions on the agency or any individual girls apart from through testimonies posted on their site.

 

Hope this helps and thanks to everybody for your help and for being so welcoming.

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I used to see a blind guy, had lots of fun till  his dog started growling at the bottom of the bed one day, guess she decided she didnt like me anymore.

 

I would say to the OP that if you are completely blind be very careful regarding outcalls to your home, there are some in the industry that would try to use your blindness to aid their nefarious ways. Just be careful

I laughed at that Chloe, a vision came into my head of you getting bitten on the bum during a spot of cowgirl.  :D  If that's bad taste give me an imaginary smack.

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I used to see a blind guy, had lots of fun till  his dog started growling at the bottom of the bed one day, guess she decided she didnt like me anymore.

 

I would say to the OP that if you are completely blind be very careful regarding outcalls to your home, there are some in the industry that would try to use your blindness to aid their nefarious ways. Just be careful

 

Odd about the dog. In my experience dogs accept anything their masters decide to do with, at most, a little mild curiosity. Their completely non-judgmental nature is one of their most charming features.

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Perhaps the dog was getting jealous

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