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What Does It Mean When A Lady Lowers Her Prices?

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I have noticed a few ladies in London and Manchester have lowered their prices recently - not significantly but from £150 per hour to £130 say.

 

I have seen ladies increase their prices before but lowering is a new one on me - I am not complaining but in business by and large going down in price says a number of things: struggling to shift stock, sale on, or increased competition.

 

Is the market becoming saturated so, as in any market, a price war is underway in Punting World? 

 

 

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I don't have an answer and I am certainly not disputing your observation, obviously, but it happens that what I have noticed is that a number of ladies change their prices up and down.

 

Often it seems to depend on where they are if they move about the country and presumably when it goes down it may be because custom is slow or there is more competition where they have moved to work from.

 

Two ladies I know very well change their prices time and time again.

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I have noticed a few ladies in London and Manchester have lowered their prices recently - not significantly but from £150 per hour to £130 say.

 

I have seen ladies increase their prices before but lowering is a new one on me - I am not complaining but in business by and large going down in price says a number of things: struggling to shift stock, sale on, or increased competition.

 

Is the market becoming saturated so, as in any market, a price war is underway in Punting World? 

 

I have noticed a few ladies in London and Manchester have lowered their prices recently - not significantly but from £150 per hour to £130 say.

 

I have seen ladies increase their prices before but lowering is a new one on me - I am not complaining but in business by and large going down in price says a number of things: struggling to shift stock, sale on, or increased competition.

 

Is the market becoming saturated so, as in any market, a price war is underway in Punting World? 

one of the things i have failed to understand is the price elasticity of punting.  how many more punters does a girl get if she cuts prices.  enough to pay for the punters who would see her at the higher price but now get it cheap.  I am not actually that convinced its that important - I think if a punter fancies seeing a girl he will pay.

 

It may be important to peope who rank their AW search results by price. 

 

There agin maybe they are doing a ryanair - cutting the headline price but increasing extras.

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........to me a decrease signals that business may be slow and the 'discount' (like all discounts) is offered to stimulate growth/increase - but is a decrease of £20 significant - maybe by coming down to that price bracket a whole new customer base opens up - the ladies are running a business after all and I understand supply v demand and getting pricing right.

 

However a £20 discount wouldn't float my boat one way or the other but as I say for some that £20 is a deal breaker.

 

I never thought of AW rating by price (duh) but again does a small increase widen the pond that much?

 

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I would say AW is price sensitive - it is for me anyway even though some SPs will have me happily pay price A while others I would only see at price A - 10 let alone A - 20.

 

The ladies I refer to who keep changing their prices say they definitely see a difference in business although they agree when they change for location they cannot be sure if the effect is good or not.

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I don't have an answer and I am certainly not disputing your observation, obviously, but it happens that what I have noticed is that a number of ladies change their prices up and down.

 

Often it seems to depend on where they are if they move about the country and presumably when it goes down it may be because custom is slow or there is more competition where they have moved to work from.

 

Two ladies I know very well change their prices time and time again.

...I wondered do the ladies you know well inform you of price changes or is it up to you to check their prices and pay the rate that is advertised - it would seem discourteous to lower the price and accept the higher payment without informing you of the discount.

 

Or is punting like every other world - buyer beware - its up to us the buyer to monitor changes in price etc.

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I think ladies that have their price go up and down are probably testing the market to see what works and what isn't. I did this when I first started I was at £100 an hour for about the first three months then I increased to £120, and have been that price since.

It's not always about a "dusty phone" or no business some women want to test the market and see if they can increase their prices. Every individual is different.

I personally have occasionally done discounts such as a half price 2 hour booking or a half price 4 hour booking. This will only be done when I have had cancellations and know that I am free so want to fill the slot, best way to fill that slot? Offer discounts, always works. Other than that my price stays the same.

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I have noticed a few ladies in London and Manchester have lowered their prices recently - not significantly but from £150 per hour to £130 say.

 

I have seen ladies increase their prices before but lowering is a new one on me - I am not complaining but in business by and large going down in price says a number of things: struggling to shift stock, sale on, or increased competition.

 

Is the market becoming saturated so, as in any market, a price war is underway in Punting World?

Good question, to be honest, I have just done it, very sadly! Because now I have to be careful of the people I get coming in the door, decent people will pay the rate, I have done it because I have plonked myself in the middle of somewhere where girls offer themselves for practically nothing and want to see a couple more clients before I call it a day, if you see a girl offering a discount, either they are in a good mood or they are quiet, doesn't mean they are an awful girl though. A lot of factors come into being quiet. I always offer the lower discount if someone requests it. After all if they haven't looked at my updated profile, then they haven't looked into me enough for my liking so probably will not know what my dos and donts are x

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I have seen girls vary their prices when they tour.  they obviously look at the cost of hotels (they vary a lot) and the local market.   

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I have seen girls vary their prices when they tour.  they obviously look at the cost of hotels (they vary a lot) and the local market.

Yh absolutely, I always try to book well in advance so hotels are cheaper, competition as well (what they charge), type of punters (I never lower my price when in an area with idiots), how much time they have left, what mood they are in, (if I am tired or moody I don't lower my price), how many bookings they have, local conditions (traffic jams means people will less likely come and see you) xx

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THP: The girls I know very well are as upfront about prices as I am and if it has gone down they tell me and if I want to pay the higher price I do so. That's part of knowing someone very well.

 

TYE (one day): Agreed about the testing just like on AW many will put a new location they haven't arranged to visit to see what response there is with enquiries or hoped-for bookings.

 

CP: Yes hotels and apartments that feature a lot in cities these days. Speaking of which -

 

Df: I started another thread about daytime hotel booking and I have found that the cheapest prices are when you only book on the day before or the day itself - they want to take any money they can. I am not questioning your point, just noticing different situations occurring.

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We're all different. I have set my bar at 150 an hour. I've not experienced 'more is better' - the last Thai girl I saw for 90 mins cost me 220 and it was nothing special. My favourite regular is 100 an hour and nowadays I don't often book for less than 90 minutes. If that comes in at over 200, I'm very choosy. It sounds clinical, but it's just the way it is, for me. Nearly all the girls' profiles say they don't negotiate and I can see why - does £20 make a difference? Yes, it does. It means that 90 mins at 130 per hour is around 195, with some girls going under the rate for an hour and a half. So, I'm much more likely to see them as long as they don't load it up with 'extras'.

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when i lived in london i was 150ph my rent was 2200 a month , now im in bristol i charge 120ph as my rent is now 1300 a month . overheads are a big part of an escorts rate of course girls in general will be more expensive in say kensignton then leeds , ...

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when i lived in london i was 150ph my rent was 2200 a month , now im in bristol i charge 120ph as my rent is now 1300 a month . overheads are a big part of an escorts rate of course girls in general will be more expensive in say kensignton then leeds , ...

 

These figures for rent are mindboggling to me who bought a house for 10 months' your London rent and finished the mortgage years ago.

 

I say all escorts should double their fees and halve their times immediately.

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I always assumed a lady lowers her price because she was pleased to see me.

Now I realise it's cost based budgeting, market testing, and sales maximisation

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And there was me planning on raising my incall prices!

 

Maybe in some areas there is a price war on or an influx of cheaper women or a downturn in business generally...  Locally the prices have gone down (from my observances on AW) but Heathrow tourers tend to charge more. I;m just in a position now when I don't need to escort as much and I have a good bank of regulars who I'll probably stick with the same rate- think it's nice to reward loyalty!  I'm doing it mainly to see if it deters idiot callers than the need to earn more money. We'll see. 

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Five years ago on AW this city had perhaps 10 or 15 escorts 'available today'  within 5 miles of my postcode. Now it's usual to see 40 to 45. Many of those are not British, and whereas offering bb was extremely rare it's now offered by about 5 profile holders. Most prices have dropped from 150/120 to 100/90 for an hour.

 

If I do a search I probably look seriously at three ladies, whom I have usually seen before, still with prices at the upper end. I'm not tempted to go to a place I suspect of being a brothel just to save a few quid, and again the influx are almost all too young for my taste.

 

So what I pay is pretty much what I was paying five or ten years ago.

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Good question, to be honest, I have just done it, very sadly! Because now I have to be careful of the people I get coming in the door, decent people will pay the rate, I have done it because I have plonked myself in the middle of somewhere where girls offer themselves for practically nothing and want to see a couple more clients before I call it a day, if you see a girl offering a discount, either they are in a good mood or they are quiet, doesn't mean they are an awful girl though. A lot of factors come into being quiet. I always offer the lower discount if someone requests it. After all if they haven't looked at my updated profile, then they haven't looked into me enough for my liking so probably will not know what my dos and donts are x

 

So only wealthier clients are "decent"...?

 

I'm still experimenting with my half-hour price, but don't think £10 either way makes much difference. I think many clients have a mental limit for an hour though, and would automatically exclude any escort they thought was taking the piss.

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I have found that the amount someone will pay isn't necessarily related to their wealth,nor whether they are 'decent'.

We can make as many guesses and assumptions, but without asking the woman herself we can never know.

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Ok the hour price is important. But I have never had a lady try to upsell me. Like when a bloke rings up and asks for an hour, the opportunity to say. 'Thats £120 chuck, but perhaps you would like an hour and a half and its only fifty quid more. Then we can take it real slow'

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Ok the hour price is important. But I have never had a lady try to upsell me. 

 

But a lot of punters complain about escorts short changing them with their services that are not as full as advertised.

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Five years ago on AW this city had perhaps 10 or 15 escorts 'available today'  within 5 miles of my postcode. Now it's usual to see 40 to 45. Many of those are not British, and whereas offering bb was extremely rare it's now offered by about 5 profile holders. Most prices have dropped from 150/120 to 100/90 for an hour.

 

If I do a search I probably look seriously at three ladies, whom I have usually seen before, still with prices at the upper end. I'm not tempted to go to a place I suspect of being a brothel just to save a few quid, and again the influx are almost all too young for my taste.

 

So what I pay is pretty much what I was paying five or ten years ago.

We have the same problem in Oxford, we have so many girls charging 60/100 offering IMO a bad service because I don't think they actually want to be doing it that good service providers don't get a look in. It puts off girls touring to the area as punters either don't think they are genuine or the punters are happy to pay the cheep price and get what they pay for so I end up having to travel further away which isn't always ideal or practical. I like to try and see girls when they do come here as one more client mIght make the difference in them coming back or not. I would like to have a regular but it's not going to happen anytime soon around here I think!!

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Pricing is a strange issue. I used to charge 140 for an hour and an additional 40 for anal. I had a lot of anal clients so i though sod it, ill just have it included in my basic fee. Upped my basic fee to 150 per hour with a lower fee for vanilla covered oral etc guys. My bookings dropped, anal guys didnt book. Got quickly bored so put it back to normal a couple of weeks later and my bookings shot up again.

 

So, the vanilla guys were paying more than they would have been had they booked me at my  vanilla fee, the anal guys were paying more than they would have bee had they booked me at my non vanilla fee

 

There is no making sense of it tbh.

 

I think there is an awful  lot of competition in london, perhaps dropping a fee by a mere 20 will bring in an extra couple of hours bookings per day, so in reality its a win for the lady as she will earn more and not less. It could even be down to very local market forces or just a special  offer for a month to get some new regulars then the fees will go up again

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So only wealthier clients are "decent"...?

 

I'm still experimenting with my half-hour price, but don't think £10 either way makes much difference. I think many clients have a mental limit for an hour though, and would automatically exclude any escort they thought was taking the piss.

No, in general the clients you get wether charging 10 or 20 more or less than the next girl wont differ much at all. However if you put special offers out or lower your fees what  you often get at first is an influx of discount hunters who ONLY book girls when they are cheaper than usual and then expect to treat you like a blowup doll for an hour, sometimes not even conversing, just attempting to physically manouvre  you around, I say attempting, they get short shrift from me as Im not a blowup doll but believe me, dropping your prices by a tenner does bring that influx of fuckwits to your door, of course the normal decent guys are in amongst them and you do notice them so much more as they make  you realise what a dickwad the last guy was. To these guys you are not a person, you are a thing that they see themselves as being clever enough to bag at a bargain fee. Luckily they are usually pretty easy to spot on the phone, rude, blunt, demanding, a bit arrogant. The sort who expect you to be fine for them to turn up ten minutes late without any sort of communicating that fact then get shitty when you tell them you will be just one minute because you assumed they were not coming so unclipped your stockings or worse, the ones who arrive half an hour early then refuse to wait more than 5 minutes for you as you are not ready yet. Had a cracker a while back "sorry Chloe but Im going, youve kept me waiting for ten minutes, bad service"...he arrived and tried to call me when i was in the shower washing my hair, by the time I came out he had gone. 

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