Siamese Tomcat

Trying To Pop My Romanian Cherry - Fail!

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I’m now a reasonably experienced punter, but still learning the problematic ropes on AdultWork after two years with relatively straightforward Oriental agencies.

 

I have an extremely strong preference for really slim, striking-looking girls and I came across emma-dream who really seemed to tick all of the boxes of my wish-list at a basic £110/hour. Ignoring the zero feedback I emailed her through AW and she auto-replied for me to text her. Here’s how it went….

 

11:26    Hi Emma – you look amazing! Are you available today 7:00pm for one hour?

14:17    yes

15:33    Sorry, too late but maybe in a week or two. Have a nice day.

15:35    ok

 

After such a long wait for a reply I’d assumed that she wasn‘t going to, and so I’d made alternative arrangements. Anyway, a week later….

 

18:16    Hi Emma – let’s try again! Are you available tomorrow 7:00pm for one hour? £110 includes OWO/RO/CIM/”A”? Cheers, R.

18:18    Yes but the service is extra

18:19    How much?

18:20    For this is 150

18:37    OK - £150 – I hope you are good :) Save 7:00pm for me and I’ll text you in the morning to confirm. Have a nice evening!

18:38    150 is just for service

18:39    I don’t understand?

18:41    For 1h and service is £260

18:42    Oh! No thanks.

 

I’ve met a few Poles and Hungarians recently and they’ve been easy to deal with and excellent value. I realise that Romanians have a mixed reputation but for £110 (or even £150 for the works) I was happy to satisfy my curiosity, but £260? If I hadn’t been so anal (!) with my enquiries I could have easily booked her at £110 (or £150) and then got a very nasty shock on arrival.

 

Obviously, girls are free to charge whatever they can get, but in my opinion this is a very deceitful and antagonistic way of going about her business. I don’t like to perpetuate the Romanians tainted status without even having met one but I believe that this is a scam of the same magnitude as bait and switch. I assume she has “protection” handy to deal with the inevitable irate punters?

 

This hasn’t quite put me off Romanians, but it’s done their reputation no favours in my eyes and I’m just glad that I dodged a bullet in this case.

 

Would anyone like to comment on her (or my) behaviour?

 

Cheers.

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Some girls are notoriously bad at price negotiation and transparency with their pricing structure. That's why there are certain types we punters should stay away from, basically because it encourages them to continue to offer a bad service. Some reel you in with a low base rate, but you soon learn that once you add all the services you'd like in the booking, you might as well pay for high end escort from an agency.

 

The super good looking 'Romanian' chicks know it all too well. I know it's a horrid stereotype and by experience, a modest few are absolutely great. The majority in this case is what spoils. Most I've come across (or not as the case maybe) are either stooshe (uptight and don't wanna know) or try to trick you by stating one price on their profile, but then pleading ignorance as to what their profile says once you've turned up and have your pants half way down.

 

Plenty will take the bait and some punters do have a good time, if they're lucky. On reading many other reports, I have been relatively lucky, fortunately.

 

There's an on going discussion on another similarly named forum about a particular WG who's simply beautiful and great in the sack, but who's flakey as fuck and wastes a lot of people's time.

 

Like I said, there are a few that are exceptions that disprove the rule. But reading all the reviews, i think we'll find a common denominator. Polish girls in my experience are much better and give an all round better service, same I think with Hungarians.

 

I think you did indeed dodge the bullet. I always try to stick to cross referencing reviews on as many review sites as possible. I ignore AW feedback as I believe a lot of it can be corrupted and can't be cross ref'd.

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just a reminder that AW names are off topic until posters become full members.

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I've visited about eight or so Romanians in the last couple of years and, apart from one which was fairly dire, have had only good experiences ranging from good to excellent. My rate of good experiences with Romanians in terms of percentages is better to be frank than my equivalent with English girls. 

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Thanks for sharing. At least you dodged the bullet before arriving in person... Keep us posted on those "slim, striking-looking" ones...

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I've visited about eight or so Romanians in the last couple of years and, apart from one which was fairly dire, have had only good experiences ranging from good to excellent. My rate of good experiences with Romanians in terms of percentages is better to be frank than my equivalent with English girls. 

 

In that case I'd appreciate your help - I've spent so much time trawling AW recently (it's quiet at work!) that it's just making my head spin.

 

If any of those you've met are truly slim and striking looking would you PM me their details?

 

Cheers.

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My experience is that they are less friendly, less honest and simply not interested. Maybe because Romania offers so little for women many become involved in sex work who really aren't suited I also have visited 8 or so. No more. Go for Czech or russian or Polish or Hungarian or Slovak or Latvian or bulgarian -all happy experiences but not Moldovan or Romanian. The last one I visited had great feedback but opened the door in grubby slippers and couldn't stop sniffing because of the coke she'd been banging up her nose the night before.

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My experience is that they are less friendly, less honest and simply not interested. Maybe because Romania offers so little for women many become involved in sex work who really aren't suited I also have visited 8 or so. No more. Go for Czech or russian or Polish or Hungarian or Slovak or Latvian or bulgarian -all happy experiences but not Moldovan or Romanian. The last one I visited had great feedback but opened the door in grubby slippers and couldn't stop sniffing because of the coke she'd been banging up her nose the night before.

 

I've had positive experiences with Romanian girls- two of my favourites recently have been Romanian.

 

One, a lovely brunette and the second was a gorgeous young blonde. I guess my only caveat would be what you mention, the drugs thing again- the blonde (who I was referring to on the party girls thread) was so great when I first saw her, but then over a period of a couple of years she got into cocaine. The last time I saw her, she wasn't the same. 

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Links to these girls?

 

There was a fresh faced, 19 year old skinned Romanian girl a few years ago on AW. I saw her many times. Beautiful girl and only £100/hour. Skin like silk.

 

Now, a few years later she is semi-fat and looks like trash. So sad.

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Links to these girls?

 

Ah the blonde I'm referring to has retired/disappeared. The brunette I like is Cherry Tree at Annas Angels, but she's at other agencies under different names.

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Well, I finally did it - my first, and most certainly my last, Romanian!

 

I’d had my eye on Deluxe Sharon on AW for a while – I really like her dark-haired Romani looks and she’s got decent feedback, but she seems to move around the country and so it’s taken a while to catch her. I noticed that she was now in London so I booked her for yesterday evening.

 

However, when I arrived at the venue (budget hotel chain) the girl that met me was clearly not Sharon – no apologies and she told me her name was Adele (I now know she was Deluxe Adellee on AW) and that Sharon had been called away on an emergency - hmm.

 

Adellee had made no effort whatsoever – she was wearing little or no makeup and presented herself in a very unsexy fluffy bath robe and when I asked her to part it (for me to decide whether to walk or not) she was wearing black hold-ups and nothing else. She was rather solidly built with lovely boobs and not unattractive and I was fired up on various substances, and so I went ahead. In retrospect she is larger than her photos.

 

It was rather disappointing. Despite being my first Romanian she fitted the widely proclaimed persona perfectly; she was not unfriendly but she was totally lacking in any sensuality whatsoever. Sure, she couldn’t help but physically react to an oily massage and very intensive RO and she got very wet and gaped nicely, but her sexual and erogenous zones did not seem to be connected to her brain. She did not tolerate rimming (receiving) or any kissing whatsoever.

 

The sex was hopeless – all she did was bounce up and down or turn around to present herself for some lazy doggie. The oral was reluctantly given “without” and was all hands until I asked her to move them, and even then it was totally mechanical and not deep at all. I paid £20 extra for CIM and thankfully I managed to get there but at the crucial moment she pulled away and it ended up CoB – my B! She said cum tasted disgusting and asked if I’d ever tasted it, to which I answered “Yes I have, and it’s completely tasteless”!

 

Earlier I had asked for anal but it was not available despite being on her AW likes. No surprise there, and Adellee also told me that Sharon never does anal either – she explained “that’s just on the profiles” as if I was an idiot for even believing it in the first place.

 

I went for a much-needed shower and when I came back she was sat on the edge of the bed on her phone – she barely looked up. I got dressed and left, receiving cheek-kisses on the way out. Wow!

 

So what is it with Romanians? Based on general internet feedback and my very limited experience I would say that they simply hate men in general, and detest punters in particular. But what really singles them out is the fact that they cannot even bother to put on an act for you.

 

This is where Orientals in general excel – they invariably make an effort with their presentation are usually totally devoted to you for the hour. Other nationalities that I’ve met (Poles, Hungarians IME) who are in the same boat (e.g. pimped) also make an effort to present themselves in an alluring way and to give you a truly enjoyable experience and, like the Orientals, will let themselves go a little and respond emotionally if you treat them well.

 

 

Romanians? Their “likes” on AW seem to be the most blatantly inaccurate and yet they evidently still pull in the punters and get decent feedback – go figure. They just seem determined to dislike their profession which is a shame for them as much as for us punters. If they could just develop a more positive attitude and relax a little maybe they would realise that escorting can actually be enjoyable on the odd occasion.

 

At the risk of sounding arrogant, I feel sorry for the Romanians, but that does not mean that I am going to support them with my cash or time.

 

Sunday opinionated rant over….

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Are Romanians really worse that other nationalities or ethnic groups at providing services? To me you're making sweeping statements based on your experiences with a handful of individuals. And- I am sure I might get criticised here- but you seem to be deliberately picking low quality individuals/independents at the cheapest rates. £110ph for example. What do you expect? It's like you're purposefully after the shit risky punt.

 

People say with punting you can have a terrible £200/£300ph+ booking and a great £150ph booking. I am sure that's true and people have had that experience, but I also believe in life you also tend to get what you pay for- you will find disinterested part-timers at £110ph if you're looking in that kind of range. An indie has no motivation to give you a perfect experience, she takes your cash and moves on, sets up another profile a month later under a different name. You already had a bait & switch in this case. What's wrong with using a trusted agency? It doesn't even have to be a high end pricey one.

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It’s not just me – generalisations or prejudices on nationalities were not born out of the Big Bang – they’ve evolved over years of experience and inter-communication by thousands of individuals. I understand that it’s illegal to practice racism, but no law will ever eradicate racial preconceptions, whether positive or negative.

 

I lived in Poland for six months and, coincidentally, my best three punts of all time have been with Polish girls in London. After my recent experience do you honestly expect me to declare that “Actually, I consider that Poles are just the same as Romanians”?

 

Let’s take it to extremes -  convince this forum that (in general) Thais are off-hand, cold-hearted uncommunicative zombies and that Romanians are sweet, empathic, caring, service orientated angels. It isn’t going to work!

 

You almost self-defeat your own argument regarding pricing but to help you along, those three mind-blowing Polish punts were £80/hour. They are very difficult to book!

 

My current favourite regular (and one of only two genuine indies that I’ve met) is £120 including optional extras – she is an absolute delight both as an escort and as a person. She has fantastic feedback on AW and has been working from the same flat and profile for over three years. I believe that is how the true professionals (including many contributors on here) operate.

 

Incidentally, my ceiling is £150, which is what I paid on my 100+ agency punts. See my opening post and tell me, what are the chances that £260/hour Romanian Emma would have been “worth it”?

 

In closing, a genuine indie does indeed have motivation - repeat business - particularly if you are a pleasant punter. I do not consider pimped girls as “indie” solely because they use AW rather than an agency.

 

Anyway, nothing personal FL, just lively open debate….

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Anyway, nothing personal FL, just lively open debate….

 

 

Same here...just giving my POV and advice. I can only speak from my own personal experience as well and wasn't accusing you of anything.

 

My worst ever punt was with an Far East Asian lady. So was one of my best!

 

That's how it goes.

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My experience of Romanian girls is limited. When i have booked them over phone from AW everything is ok. I then journey from London to the surburbs to meet them and once i'm there the phone is never answered again!

 

Has anyone else experience this?

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My experience of Romanian girls is limited. When i have booked them over phone from AW everything is ok. I then journey from London to the surburbs to meet them and once i'm there the phone is never answered again!

 

Has anyone else experience this?

 

Yes.

 

I personally think AW is very hit and miss. I was trying to express that to Siamese tomcat but I probably didn't come across very well. I think you have to be careful and rely on good feedback from others/profiles with verified photos etc. I don't think it's to do with nationality, I think it's down to the risks of relying on indies who use that site.

 

My first attempt at booking someone from AW was a disaster. She was a young Northern Irish woman. Texted her and spoke to her on the phone. She sounded great, genuine Irish accent etc everything seemed ok, I arranged the booking with her and she gave me her street address (in a south London suburb) but not the house number.

 

I turn up at the appointed time- it's night time- I call her to let her know that I'm at the street, and her phone is switched off. I keep trying over a period of 10 minutes, I send a couple of texts. It's dark, I'm loitering, I'm looking around wondering what's going on. I start to become anxious and suspicious, so I quickly decide to give up and get out of there.

 

Several hours later, I get a text saying she had a problem with her phone. No apology, no suggestion to re-arrange. I delete all texts and her number, never hear from her again. Since then I have rarely booked anyone from AW unless they have plenty of positive feedback/verified photos etc.

 

No idea if she was a time-waster, a scammer or just got cold feet. I didn't make a note of the AW name/user ID so I can't share I'm afraid. I doubt she made a success of it anyway.

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I've held off posting for fear of appearing to tout this girl, having mentioned her a number of times before. And, at £200, is higher than OP indicated. She is Romanian but has no similarity to any of the negatives mentioned. And the wonderful girl is.....

 

Emma at Butterfly Touch. The reviews by Gary on BT's site are mine. Also reviewed her on P'net after I met her for the first time. Despite being an oriental lover, Emma is the best ever for me. Seen her about five or six times.

 

If £110 really is the budget, then skip a punt, put the money in a piggy bank and you'll have £220 come next punt. Personal financial planning service free :)

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