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So I am curious. As working girls, how easy is it for them to have relationships? They are more than likely to have pimps or 'managers' - but are they allowed to date? Do they want to date? I've been told never fall in love with a working girl - I've had some soft spots, but noone I would ever want to pursue.

 

But what in the scenario of a high class escort, someone educated and is not imported here or working for their Visa, and there's a connection. In this scenario, the customer is a successful young/semi-young professional with some charm and good looks. There is chemistry. What happens? Outside of the customer/client world, we are all humans at the end of the day - surely some girls will fall for their clients, to some degree, and vice versa - but what if it becomes something else, something more? Maybe it's good ol' fashioned dating, or some arrangement which is not traditional dating but still no money directly being exchanged.

 

Not all working girls will have boyfriends or husbands, and all working girls and clients are humans - there's bound to, out of law of averages, there sometime somehow be something more.

 

NB: this isn't loosely written about a personal experience. I am just curious.

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Oh dear,yet another re-run of the corniest fantasy ever.

 

If you care to scroll back through the General Discussion Forum (where this should have been posted, having nothing in particular to do with London),you will find possibly hundreds of threads on this hoary old topic, they seem to pop up once a fortnight.

 

For some reason the scenario always seems to have a starring role for a successful semi-young professional with, ahem, charm and good looks.

 

Yawn.

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You don't sound bitter at all, Chris Tongue.

 

This isn't a fantasy of mine nor have I or would I ever fall for a working girl - it's hard enough to fall for a beautiful woman who ticks all the boxes as it is.

 

I'm more curious about the mindset of the girl themselves (as we have a few on this forum), how they approach relationships, clients, love, life, dating, sex, etc. It would take a lot for a guy to be understanding of her career, just like it would be to be dating a girl in porn, which is often why they end up with people from within the industry.

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Well I'm glad it's been acknowledged that we are human. Thus we are all different and have different experiences. 

 

The majority of escorts just want to see our clients and for them to go away afterwards with no nonsense about romance or relationships. We choose to do that on our own time with men we meet in a variety of situations. Most women aren't as shallow as simply seeking charm, good looks or a professional status in a man. We fall for men for many reasons and many escorts are already in relationships or have decided they don't want one. 

 

Very occasionally an escort might date a client, it does happen but not something any client should go in hoping for. 

 

For the record, my partner has never had any problem with me being in the industry- it wasn't hard to be understanding that it is a job. 

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You say wgs are more likely pimped or managed?Is that really what you think?I think the very ladies on this forum would prove that's a load of old crap!Been with my partner for 18 months he has known from the off what I do and same as Lydias partner he accepts its purely business.

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I don't understand the fixation on escorts and relationships and if they date clients? We are normal people like everyone else why are certain posters always curious? As if it's something completely foreign?

I have dated in my three years of escorting, and the guy I dated had no problems with what I did, we stopped dating because I didn't see it going anywhere.

Personally I don't think I would date a client (never say never). I'm sure it happens but it's probably quite rare.

I don't agree with the "most likely to be pimped and managed" comment at all, how would you know this unless you are there 24/7 to come to this conclusion?

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Go and watch the movie " pretty woman " its all there , answers all your questions

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Oh gosh, here I go letting down the side again as I have never had a pimp. Gosh garn golly, my bad.

 

Relationships. Dont do them, Ive had a couple but they were clients, the first was short and pointless, the second I gave up working. I wont do that again for a guy so I really  can figure out no way that i would have a relationship unless it was with a client or ex client who was happy for me to work. So I dont, as thats an unlikely scenario

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Hey. I didn't mean to come across this way by saying "most likely to be pimped and managed" .. this is purely on assumption, hence posting this to find out more. Again, I'm curious.

 

This isn't about the client/customer fantasy but more about dating. The whole "don't shit where you eat" rule applies to my life but sometimes I'll meet someone through work or professional means where there is an obvious chemistry. This is down to personality, somewhat looks, charisma/charm/humour, etc. I'm just about what working girls think if/when they find that in a client. If anything, and at the very least, these things could result in friendship (if possible, would love to hear stories!).

 

I travel a lot, for business and pleasure, and most times when I've had a fleeting moment with someone - non-physical - after awhile, if not years of contact, you establish some kind of friendship (this is not with working girls). Again, I'm curious - no judgement here - only questions and curiousity!

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I am puzzled as to why you have the assumption and the curiosity.You have been a member on here since 2013 and have alot of posts under your belt.That's the sort of assumption and curiosity that newbies who haven't any experience of escorts have.There has surely been hundreds of posts and threads on here alone about these kinds of topics that you would have read to know that we are NOT likely to be pimped and that some of us can and do have relationships.Yet another thread where the conclusion will be some will some won't..because shock horror we are individual women with different backgrounds,different ideals and different ways of doing things.

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I have curiousity because I travel a lot, I date a lot, and I meet people of all walks, shapes and sizes. I'm curious how dating plays a role in many lives - not just working girls. My bad for making the assumptions about pimps and managers, let's pretend I didn't say that. I also know that you can find love/companionship in the least likely of places, and that's a universal rule and so I'm sure that would apply to the client/customer scenario. Maybe not likely, or the norm, but it is possible.

 

I've not read other forum posts, this isn't some fantasy of mine, I'm curious because I'm curious. The fact you are individual women, with different backgrounds, desires, considerations of what dating/life/love is, different ideals and different ways is exactly why I'm asking! :)

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What you have got to remember is that this is a business-type arrangement where women are selling sex, and men are buying it. It's just so unlikely that 'real romance' could ever blossom in such a situation. It's so unlikely, when you think logically about it. I do know of situations where escorts have ended up in a kind of relationship with a client, but those were 'sugar daddy' type arrangements.

 

We know the women we see are working girls- but crucially they also know we are men who are prepared to pay for sex.

 

How attractive- genuinely attractive- do you think that makes us?

 

I don't claim to speak for the WGs on here, but I've read their replies here and it confirms what I thought. I find it hard enough to attract civvie females, in ordinary life, who know nothing of my secret fantasy life with escorts yet still turn their noses up at me. That's the whole reason I decided on this lifestyle and decided to start paying for it. It was sexual frustration and necessity, a desire to fulfil my fantasies. How would I possibly be more attractive to a woman who knows that I pay for sex - because I am paying for it with her! You see how that simple logic kills the whole fantasy idea that working girls fall for clients who want real relationships with them.

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A working girl can't judge a client for paying for sex as much as the client can judge her for selling herself for sex. I think the understanding is mutual, and I'd be very suprised if judgement is passed. I am sure some clients are better than others, so let's assume this is talking about a good guy type client.

 

I treat it as a supplement - it's fun. I date regularly, but sometimes I want the fun and excitement of having sex with a stranger, even if it's paid for. It's meant to be fun, live out some fantasies, or just enjoy the sexual comfort/pleasure of being with a woman. There's something for everyone.

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All depends what you mean by a date. Applying the dictionary definition  I've had many dates with WGs. The fact that money is exchanged doesn't mean it's not a date.

 

I've equally had many dates with non working girls but they can be as expensive as those with working girls. Often those with the WGs can be the most fun.

 

Because they are human WGs are skilled in providing the illusion of romance but which dies between visits.

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So I am curious. As working girls, how easy is it for them to have relationships? They are more than likely to have pimps or 'managers' - but are they allowed to date? Do they want to date? I've been told never fall in love with a working girl - I've had some soft spots, but noone I would ever want to pursue.

 

But what in the scenario of a high class escort, someone educated and is not imported here or working for their Visa, and there's a connection. In this scenario, the customer is a successful young/semi-young professional with some charm and good looks. There is chemistry. What happens? Outside of the customer/client world, we are all humans at the end of the day - surely some girls will fall for their clients, to some degree, and vice versa - but what if it becomes something else, something more? Maybe it's good ol' fashioned dating, or some arrangement which is not traditional dating but still no money directly being exchanged.

 

Not all working girls will have boyfriends or husbands, and all working girls and clients are humans - there's bound to, out of law of averages, there sometime somehow be something more.

 

NB: this isn't loosely written about a personal experience. I am just curious.

 

You seem to have put working girls on a pedestal of sorts,  maybe if you removed it?  Do so and you would see that in reality a girl is a girl is a girl regardless of their chosen career/stop-gap or whatever reason for dwelling in the paid for sex scene.  

 

Mindset is key, it shouldn't really be any easier/harder to have a relationship than the next, that is unless you let it.

 

It's just choices

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What you have got to remember is that this is a business-type arrangement where women are selling sex, and men are buying it. It's just so unlikely that 'real romance' could ever blossom in such a situation. It's so unlikely, when you think logically about it. I do know of situations where escorts have ended up in a kind of relationship with a client, but those were 'sugar daddy' type arrangements.

We know the women we see are working girls- but crucially they also know we are men who are prepared to pay for sex.

How attractive- genuinely attractive- do you think that makes us?

I don't claim to speak for the WGs on here, but I've read their replies here and it confirms what I thought. I find it hard enough to attract civvie females, in ordinary life, who know nothing of my secret fantasy life with escorts yet still turn their noses up at me. That's the whole reason I decided on this lifestyle and decided to start paying for it. It was sexual frustration and necessity, a desire to fulfil my fantasies. How would I possibly be more attractive to a woman who knows that I pay for sex - because I am paying for it with her! You see how that simple logic kills the whole fantasy idea that working girls fall for clients who want real relationships with them.

I don't agree with this at all.

A man who has paid for sex previously wouldn't bother me at all, it's fun and paid sex can be used to gain experience, experiment in different aspects of sex that you couldn't do with civvy girls.

If I dated a man who told me he paid for sex with escorts it wouldn't bother me and it wouldn't change my opinion of him. It would be incredibly hypocritical of me to judge a man who pays for sex when I sell sex. I don't see what's unattractive about paying for sex.

If you aren't getting any action or you like taboo things which civvy girls wouldn't be into, the next best option is to pay for it, so why not?!

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Personally, I get enough (I say this modestly -- before the trolls come out) sex through 'civvies' but like all good things, it's nice to have a bit on the side. Sometimes when traveling, or it's been a long week, or I've had a few wins in my life, it's nice to treat myself in the company and comfort of being with a (hopefully) beautiful woman. It doesn't mean I want to fulfill any role play fantasy or double penetration or anything like that, lol, but it's still fun. Maybe one day I'll pay to live out some more fantasy like things, but usually I try and live out fantasies with civvies. I find both solutions compliment each other.

 

@Ebony - well said!

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Oh gosh, here I go letting down the side again as I have never had a pimp. Gosh garn golly, my bad.

 

Relationships. Dont do them, Ive had a couple but they were clients, the first was short and pointless, the second I gave up working. I wont do that again for a guy so I really  can figure out no way that i would have a relationship unless it was with a client or ex client who was happy for me to work. So I dont, as thats an unlikely scenario

 

I'm surprised at you, Chloe. That's no way to describe a customer. Short, maybe, but pointless?

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I'm surprised at you, Chloe. That's no way to describe a customer. Short, maybe, but pointless?

Chloe clearly had an affair with Alexander Armstrong.

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Well, I'm more interested in taking this question from the angle of how easy it is for WGs to find relationships (if they so wish) with non-clients.  I was pleased to read some positive experiences of WGs outside of the scene at the top of this discussion but I wonder how accepting most men (indeed, most people in general) are.  Personally I don't think it matters (I've never been in a position to be hypocritical of my opinion so can't honestly say but, to me, there's a massive difference between love and sex), but many people in this world don't agree with my philosophy.  Only today I was speaking with a female friend (not a WG) who is going through a controlling relationship where her partner is suspicious every time she talks to somebody else and reports of such people grow more common as time passes.  Of course some people have always behaved like this but, in an era where we're supposed to be more open-minded, I often find that we're also more mistrusting and judgemental.  So, when you find someone in whom you're interested, how afraid are you of rejection if/when you disclose your occupation?

 

On the topic of men being unattractive when paying for sex, this assumes that sex is the only concern of the client.  There are at least two types of general client; those who get in and get out and only go for the big bang, and then those who appreciate the time/company/intimacy afforded to them.  Don't forget that escorts offer GFE, accompaniment at public events and so on.  Yes, I suspect that 99.5% of clients have at least some level of sexual intention, but I don't believe (unless I'm just an aboration) that it's the only consideration and I think a person's attractiveness is decided by their overall being rather than simply by their interest (or lack of interest) in paid-for sexual activity.

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If I met someone who was bothered about me being an escort then he isn't the man for me. I can't be doing jealousy and insecurity at any point. I would only be interested in a man intelligent enough to understand it is just a job. Simples. 

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That's the sort of assumption and curiosity that newbies who haven't any experience of escorts have.

 

QED.

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You don't sound bitter at all, Chris Tongue.

 

This isn't a fantasy of mine nor have I or would I ever fall for a working girl - it's hard enough to fall for a beautiful woman who ticks all the boxes as it is.

 

I'm more curious about the mindset of the girl themselves (as we have a few on this forum), how they approach relationships, clients, love, life, dating, sex, etc. It would take a lot for a guy to be understanding of her career, just like it would be to be dating a girl in porn, which is often why they end up with people from within the industry.

I've never been managed or pimped, always worked for me only.

 

My mindset has been that if I do find someone I want to have a relationship with they'll always know about my job(s).

 

During my time as Strawberry I have indeed formed a relationship with a client, and recently married him. It took 4 years before we decided to take things further, during which time I had other boyfriends and also periods of being single. We were together in a commited relationship for another 4 years before our marriage.

 

His approach is that it's my job, it's what I came with, and it would be wrong to tell me to stop. I keep going for as long as I am happy.

 

We came to our own decision about fidelity, completely independent of each other, ie there were no ultimatums, we both each decided what we each were comfortable with.

 

He worried about my safety and also the strain that daft callers, people who mess around and overly attached clients has on me, but also sees how much pride and enjoyment I gain from it.

 

That's all there is to it!

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I know there's a lot of interest in this type of topic, I suppose us ladies could ask the converse.

 

How does a punter manage a relationship with a partner?

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So I am curious. As working girls, how easy is it for them to have relationships? They are more than likely to have pimps or 'managers' - but are they allowed to date? Do they want to date? I've been told never fall in love with a working girl - I've had some soft spots, but noone I would ever want to pursue.

 

But what in the scenario of a high class escort, someone educated and is not imported here or working for their Visa, and there's a connection. In this scenario, the customer is a successful young/semi-young professional with some charm and good looks. There is chemistry. What happens? Outside of the customer/client world, we are all humans at the end of the day - surely some girls will fall for their clients, to some degree, and vice versa - but what if it becomes something else, something more? Maybe it's good ol' fashioned dating, or some arrangement which is not traditional dating but still no money directly being exchanged.

 

Not all working girls will have boyfriends or husbands, and all working girls and clients are humans - there's bound to, out of law of averages, there sometime somehow be something more.

 

NB: this isn't loosely written about a personal experience. I am just curious.

 

I think you are right in your observations: there are plenty of girls who are in relationships....... and lots of young girls mainly, who were brought here by their 'managers': after all, with such bad economies in some parts of the world how can they explain the money for air fare, food/travel/sexy clothing, deposits and rents in advance for flats knowing how suspicious landlords/estate agents can be who can make it difficult even for 'born and bred girls'.  I will never forget, as I was walking away from the crowds of Marble Arch I once heard a guy surrounded by several girls shouting in a foreign language at somebody on the phone: 'remember, I have pictures of you giving bj'.  This proved to me the reality of such cases you normally read in newspapers.

 

Looking at pictures on other sites, you can almost understand which girl was brought here under such terms and has her bed made by her 'boyfriend' checking on her at all times, then moves to another city or other countries, then comes back and has him even updating her page, take her pics etc.  Next time you come across her profile you see she has hundreds of reviews and you think: 'wow, so this does work'.

 

Personally I try not to think much but I noticed this goes on for quite some time.

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