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Small Things To Make Punting Signficantly Safer (Highly Recommmended)

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I was thinking about this the other day.

 

about sTI's today and really most people can genuinely protect themselves from anything bad and actually most people can significantly reduce the things they worry about by using vaccines.

 

Hepb virus- there is a vaccine for hepb(trust me when i tell you this works) this is one of the 3 main incurable Sexually transmitted diseeases but you can immunise and not have to worry about this.

 

HPV- there is also a vaccine that prevents 80% of genital warts. In most cases this is THE big risk when punting as it can be caught with condoms on. as it only requires skin to skin contact

 

 

Hepc- there is also a cure for Hepc once considered one of the unholy trifecta of Aids and Hep B, but with a vaccine for hep b now available the only thing to be worried about is aids  but if you put a condom on the likelihood of catching Aids is really low.

 

most diseases today can be cured (chlamidya, syphilis, gonorhea), the main one that there isnt a cure for yet is aids

 

Anyone reading this in good health that wants to get into punting should think about getting the above vaccines first as it will significantly reduce the things you have to worry about when you test for anything and will most propably mean short of catching aids everything else is curable by short course of antibiotics. 

 

we all want to enjoy the benefits of punting and reduce the risk, well going beyond condoms these are some simple things that go a long way.

 

 

Peace and happy punting

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A good post except the bit about other stis being easily treated with antibiotics.Some stis are becoming harder to treat..see threads and the news about Oral Gonorrhoea.

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Hepb virus- there is a vaccine for hepb(trust me when i tell you this works) this is one of the 3 main incurable Sexually transmitted diseeases but you can immunise and not have to worry about this.

 

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I appreciate that you posted with the most noble of intentions, but this is inaccurate and misleading.

 

HepB innoculation fails in 5~15% of cases, even after two courses - that's a significant proportion.

 

Condom or not, punting (and escorting) is risky - just accept the fact!

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I appreciate that you posted with the most noble of intentions, but this is inaccurate and misleading.

HepB innoculation fails in 5~15% of cases, even after two courses - that's a significant proportion.

Condom or not, punting (and escorting) is risky - just accept the fact!

Absolutely.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves :)

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I appreciate that you posted with the most noble of intentions, but this is inaccurate and misleading.

 

HepB innoculation fails in 5~15% of cases, even after two courses - that's a significant proportion.

 

Condom or not, punting (and escorting) is risky - just accept the fact!

 

 

actually according to the NHS website it is 95% effective. Usually it takes 3 injections to be certain. But i tell you what? if it doesnt work for you, then you can carry on taking your chances like you would anyway.  

I havent said that punting is safe but you would be a lot safer if punters and WG alike got vaccinated. There are some things you should always do like wear a condom but at least you can practically eliminate the threat of these two INCURABLE diseases by simply having a couple of jabs. If you are a punter or WG why wouldnt you encourage people to get vaccinated? To me its an additional line of defense like a condom.

 

I found most people dont know such a thing exists at least until its too late. 

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actually according to the NHS website it is 95% effective. I took my figure from http://www.hepb.org/hepb/vaccine_information.htm. The NHS is a wonderful institution (they saved my life!) but they are under the thumb of the government.

 

Usually it takes 3 injections to be certain. 3 injections is the standard course. If it doesn’t work (5~15%) then you can have another three but the odds are stacked against it working. After two courses I believe the GUM clinic will give up.

 

But i tell you what? if it doesnt work for you, then you can carry on taking your chances like you would anyway. Actually, the bonus of taking the course and having regular screenings is that you are tested for loads of nasties, so you are minimising your chances even if the inoculation doesn’t work.

 

I havent said that punting is safe but you would be a lot safer if punters and WG alike got vaccinated. I agree, but how many take PrEP ? It is extremely effective at preventing HIV but I believe it is £800/month. You cannot get it on the NHS although the Terrence Higgins Trust (among others) is campaigning for it. In fact, on the NHS Choices pages “HIV and AIDS – Prevention” it isn’t even mentioned. WTF?

 

There are some things you should always do like wear a condom but at least you can practically eliminate the threat of these two INCURABLE diseases by simply having a couple of jabs. See above – it’s not that simple!

 

If you are a punter or WG why wouldnt you encourage people to get vaccinated? To me its an additional line of defense like a condom. Can you afford £800/month or, more to the point, how many WGs would?

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I have my hep b immunity checked at every screening. It took 3 injections to gain the level required, and I've been given a couple of boosters since then.

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I have my hep b immunity checked at every screening. It took 3 injections to gain the level required, and I've been given a couple of boosters since then.

 

Well, I've now completed two courses of HepB (three jabs each time) and will learn at my next GUM screening in January whether the second course worked - I'm not holding my breath!

 

It would be nice to have immunity but, like many other innoculations, just because it didn't work doesn't mean that you're guaranteed to catch it even if you are exposed.

 

I've never had a 'flu jab, but have only suffered it once in my 60+ years.

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HPV jabs are typically only offered to non-sexually active young people though, and not so widely available like HepB jabs.

-W

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On 11/22/2015 at 7:49 AM, WittyWoo said:

HPV jabs are typically only offered to non-sexually active young people though, and not so widely available like HepB jabs.

-W

That's because most people who've had sex have already been exposed to HPV and the vaccine isn't especially useful. A very high proportion of people who've ever had sex will have or have had a few strains of HPV (there are a lot of strains: a few cause warts, and a few are linked to cancers such as cervical cancer, but most are completely asymptomatic and do nothing.) Most people pick them up and in most cases they are either cleared by the immune system or become subclinical within a few years. The vaccine may still be worthwhile but it's not offered as standard to most people - it's being targeted at young women because cervical cancer is the most serious potential complication.

 

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to me the recommendation to get vaccinated for any sti with a vaccine should be standard mandatory advice for all punters and wg alike. 

nothing will ever be 100%safe. but things like this will make it safer. I mean if your condoms split for example at least you would have some protection for some things and vice versa for wg.

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Can I also add something which drives me wild, is we can't catch aids! You catch hiv and aids is what hiv can turn into if not taking your medication or you live in a third world country. No I haven't got it, I just studied science at school

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Thanks a lot for the tips here! They will really be very helpful for me

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Really good post.

I'm a 50 year old male, and I have already had the Hep B jabs (due to travel).

Is it worth me having the HPV vaccine done privately? Most of the stuff I've read on the net focuses on women, and esp, young people getting this, and also the article tend to say that a majority of the population at some point will get any particular strain on HPV.

A vaccine cannot help with the strains already in the body, but will of course, reduce the chances of catching new strains.

Have any of the punters here had this? I'm happy to pay the £400 for three doses.

 

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On 20/11/2015 at 10:08 PM, Strawberry said:

I have my hep b immunity checked at every screening. It took 3 injections to gain the level required, and I've been given a couple of boosters since then.

Ditto @Strawberry.  I had my three initial HepA/B jabs, and attend my local GUM clinic regularly to keep on top of things.  They are so lovely and non-judgmental - they're a naughty girl's best friend in my opinion.  Nothing is ever 100% safe, but I trust them to look after me as best they can as it's in the best interest of the NHS to keep us as healthy as poss.

 

On 10/01/2016 at 11:54 PM, tonybenz said:

to me the recommendation to get vaccinated for any sti with a vaccine should be standard mandatory advice for all punters and wg alike. 

nothing will ever be 100%safe. but things like this will make it safer. I mean if your condoms split for example at least you would have some protection for some things and vice versa for wg.

Agreed.  Just because condoms very rarely occasionally break, that doesn't mean I'm not going to use them.  I'm also on the birth control pill and get tested regularly at my local GUM clinic for STIs.  Like I said to Strawberry, nothing is ever 100% safe, but the more precautions you take, the safer you'll most likely be.

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