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How Off Putting Is A Concierge?

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Hi Everyone,

I'm thinking of moving.. I've seen a place I really like but there is a Concierge, in a large reception area which clients would have to pass - they're not overly interested in comings and goings and there are over 400 flats in the complex however I wonder how much this might worry potential visitors - your thoughts would be appreciated x

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I think if you have explained clearly where guys are supposed to go and they can proceed without interaction with the concierge then most experienced guys would be ok. Do you get many newbies? Some of them might be offput maybe?

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I know the kind of accommodation you're describing - I have worked in a place like that, not a single guest has had a problem with it. Quite the opposite - it's ideal: safe, but anonymous at the same time. Only a potential trouble maker might be put off.

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...I have visited a  number of ladies who work from appartments/flats with a Concierge - on the whole been fine - rather like a hotel if you are discrete, know where you are going, then all is well. 

 

I was once stopped going into a place in west London - swanky appartments - huge reception and was stopped - we, unlike you ladies, only have a first name and a room number - her name was Elizabeth (Italian) and they asked me who I had come to see - I simply said, 'My very good friend Elizabeth in 73' - they then called her up and she said she was expecting me etc. 

 

It didn't especially spook me or make me flappy- keep calm and all that - but its the only time I have been stopped and actually maybe they were more security than concierge - but anyway all's well that ends well.

 

Had a great punt and left with a huge smile on my face! :)

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The kind of place you are describing could be OK, if it was OK for other girls in the past......... however you might still depend on the man at the Concierge and the mood he is in.  Some new guys take this job too seriously and prefer to stick their eyes on the monitors rather than be polite and professional to the person in front of them.  Do you research and speak with other people in the building.

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I think some clients will be put off by anything if they are especially jumpy- I had one man bottle it because a police car was parked up the road! 

 

I think in some ways a building smart enough to have a concierge will play in your favour in terms of having a decent, smart incall location. If you take it you'll probably have to tweak what you say to people as you go along. Telling clients not to go to the desk might prevent some idiots going to announce themselves but also might put off others. Not mentioning it at all might freak less experienced men out.

 

I think the best way to start is when you direct clients to you is to be quite clear "When you come in go straight ahead/turn right directly to the stairs/lift" or whatever it is. Which we all have to do anyway else the poor loves get lost! 

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I can only remember it being a problem once, and that was because of the personality of the concierge. He was naturally malevolent (a bit like the underbutler in Downton Abbey) and had obviously taken an advanced course in punter humiliation techniques. In terms of results, it wasn't a problem, because all he wanted to do was delight in making it clear to you that he knew. He wasn't the only one who knew: to judge by what I found in the corridor near the girl's flat, he'd made sure everyone else in the building knew.

 

Can't remember where it was now - somewhere off the Edgware Road.

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A large reception area with lots of people milling about that you can pass through anonymously would be no problem at all. Just pass on details of the apartment number and floor, maybe directions to the lift so the punter can walk in like he lives there.

A concierge sitting in a small lobby by a single lift, having to wait outside and call the WG to come down and fetch you, not so great. Particularly if it's in a rather public street.

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Just be sure to make sure that your clients ring your number outside, rather than following someone in who has the code or who has been buzzed in by someone else. Concierges who see the latter happening are likely to quiz the person coming in behind someone else, asking them which flat they are going to and so forth. I made this mistake once en route to a FBSM session, and was pretty spooked by the concierge's questions. If I had had the sense simply to let the door close behind the person going in in front of me, ring the number and wait to be buzzed in, there wouldn't have been any problem at all. It might be wise to advise your clients that this is the proper procedure.

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I know a similar block in Docklands, but there are several entrances.

 

Is there only one entrance? 

 

Do visitors have to sign in?

 

Is CCTV obvious?

 

You have to look at things from nosey neighbours' points of view, including the Concierge's and the Client's. 

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I have had friends who work in apartments with concierge and it's never been a problem. If the lobby area is big enough for people to come and go it's fine.

 

I also had to move into a place like this briefly when work was being done on my own place and found it absolutely fine. Most of the time they're dealing with some other scenario or on the phone etc so nobody actually cares.

 

If some dodgy looking man came in looking suspect they might question it but just as well before he gets to you.

 

It also depends on how much traffic you will have and more importantly your neighbours.

 

Sofia xx

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I think some clients will be put off by anything if they are especially jumpy- I had one man bottle it because a police car was parked up the road! 

 

I think in some ways a building smart enough to have a concierge will play in your favour in terms of having a decent, smart incall location. If you take it you'll probably have to tweak what you say to people as you go along. Telling clients not to go to the desk might prevent some idiots going to announce themselves but also might put off others. Not mentioning it at all might freak less experienced men out.

 

I think the best way to start is when you direct clients to you is to be quite clear "When you come in go straight ahead/turn right directly to the stairs/lift" or whatever it is. Which we all have to do anyway else the poor loves get lost! 

HA HA Lydia, reminded me of my very first punt,parked up to make call,lots of parked cars in the road,in my head they all had a policeman in them. !!!

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I can only remember it being a problem once, and that was because of the personality of the concierge. He was naturally malevolent (a bit like the underbutler in Downton Abbey) and had obviously taken an advanced course in punter humiliation techniques. In terms of results, it wasn't a problem, because all he wanted to do was delight in making it clear to you that he knew. He wasn't the only one who knew: to judge by what I found in the corridor near the girl's flat, he'd made sure everyone else in the building knew.

 

Can't remember where it was now - somewhere off the Edgware Road.

..that made me laugh - malevolent like the underbutelr in Downton Abbey - I have done the walk of a shame a couple of times - where the concierge looks at you like they want you to know they are in the know blah de blah...deep down I sense envy and given I would have engaged in a perfectly legal activity I put on my most brazen walk and my equally brazen smile and make my elegant unashamed exit!

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..that made me laugh - malevolent like the underbutelr in Downton Abbey - I have done the walk of a shame a couple of times - where the concierge looks at you like they want you to know they are in the know blah de blah...deep down I sense envy and given I would have engaged in a perfectly legal activity I put on my most brazen walk and my equally brazen smile and make my elegant unashamed exit!

 

That would make sense - after all, they see the girls walk in and out every day, know there's willing pussy here, and must fantasize about them behind their desks all day.

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I know a similar block in Docklands, but there are several entrances.

 

Is there only one entrance? 

 

Do visitors have to sign in?

 

Is CCTV obvious?

 

You have to look at things from nosey neighbours' points of view, including the Concierge's and the Client's. 

 

It's a massive building - there could be more than one entrance but I'm not sure.

 

No, visitors don't have to sign in.

 

CCTV is obvious. I'm really torn! Love the flat I've just always entertained from somewhere very discrete... I don't think they'll be nosey neighbours and the walls are really thick :)

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A large reception area with lots of people milling about that you can pass through anonymously would be no problem at all. Just pass on details of the apartment number and floor, maybe directions to the lift so the punter can walk in like he lives there.

A concierge sitting in a small lobby by a single lift, having to wait outside and call the WG to come down and fetch you, not so great. Particularly if it's in a rather public street.

 

It is a large reception and lots of people in and out with more than one lift.

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The kind of place you are describing could be OK, if it was OK for other girls in the past......... however you might still depend on the man at the Concierge and the mood he is in.  Some new guys take this job too seriously and prefer to stick their eyes on the monitors rather than be polite and professional to the person in front of them.  Do you research and speak with other people in the building.

 

Yeh that's the thing - it could be OK but it might not be....

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Short answer is I don't know. but thinking allowed in light of my own character and experiences:

 

hated the idea of a hotel before I tried any. Then a special lady caused me to think it worth the risk and never had any problems other than a frisson of nerves at a hotel I hadn't been in before.

 

Serviced apartments came next and occasionally there would be someone on the desk but ok if it wasn't the first occasion and I could make my way confidently to the stairs or lift.

 

Worth getting to know things like number of entrances - one could be much better or worse than the others for punters. E.g. one in Birmingham has 4 entrances and the ladies try to ensure their flat isn't one reached via the entrance where the concierge is (though everywhere they don't seem to be at their desks much).

 

The comment about going to see my very good friend Elizabeth is fine as long as that is the name she is using to book the place. Might they not have a residents/temp booking list?

 

I know places where transgender escorts work and names might be a problem there...

 

To me, swanky seems potentially more problematical than basic as high payers will expect high levels of security and service. On the other hand, they would expect greater privacy which is what the escorts want too.

 

But my main comment is to suss out the layout of the building and entrances in detail so you can advise the best entry route with confidence and latch onto potential confusion. i used a certain multi-storey building a number of times when a fave worked from there and never sorted out whether to take the west or east staircase (which branched off each other several floors up) or lift to get to the right part of the building 8 storeys up.

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Short answer is I don't know. but thinking allowed in light of my own character and experiences:

 

hated the idea of a hotel before I tried any. Then a special lady caused me to think it worth the risk and never had any problems other than a frisson of nerves at a hotel I hadn't been in before.

 

Serviced apartments came next and occasionally there would be someone on the desk but ok if it wasn't the first occasion and I could make my way confidently to the stairs or lift.

 

Worth getting to know things like number of entrances - one could be much better or worse than the others for punters. E.g. one in Birmingham has 4 entrances and the ladies try to ensure their flat isn't one reached via the entrance where the concierge is (though everywhere they don't seem to be at their desks much).

 

The comment about going to see my very good friend Elizabeth is fine as long as that is the name she is using to book the place. Might they not have a residents/temp booking list?

 

I know places where transgender escorts work and names might be a problem there...

 

To me, swanky seems potentially more problematical than basic as high payers will expect high levels of security and service. On the other hand, they would expect greater privacy which is what the escorts want too.

 

But my main comment is to suss out the layout of the building and entrances in detail so you can advise the best entry route with confidence and latch onto potential confusion. i used a certain multi-storey building a number of times when a fave worked from there and never sorted out whether to take the west or east staircase (which branched off each other several floors up) or lift to get to the right part of the building 8 storeys up.

...what else could I have done though...that's all we have isn't it...when a lady visits me in my hotel I give her my name (fake) but it is the one I check in under - but all we have is the Working Girls name and a room number - I took a risk for sure but I didn't want to be stum or look stupid - and I find that WG's are pretty good at thinking on their feet..and she was as she said: O my good friend Bill (not my real name) send him right on up! :

 

You gotta think on your feet that much I know.

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I would say go back and revisit it again. If you work for agencies at all ask the owners if they have known anyone who has ever lived/worked from there.

 

When you go back go back in and take the lift to the flat you saw and if you have no problems likely nobody else will.

 

You could also ask clients if they know of the place also.

 

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This is a great thread and the replies are interesting. I myself will be moving into my first place in the Spring next year and will provide in calls so it's good to see that most of you have not seen it as a problem!

This thread has come at the right time MSL! Thanks :D

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Thanks everyone! I've decided not to take it and keep looking - I've lived and played in my current flat with no issues for three and a half years now. I still want to move west but to somewhere as discrete as my current home - no concierge and no cameras!!

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...what else could I have done though...that's all we have isn't it...when a lady visits me in my hotel I give her my name (fake) but it is the one I check in under - but all we have is the Working Girls name and a room number - I took a risk for sure but I didn't want to be stum or look stupid - and I find that WG's are pretty good at thinking on their feet..and she was as she said: O my good friend Bill (not my real name) send him right on up! :

 

You gotta think on your feet that much I know.

 

I wasn't being critical, just pointing out a potential hiccup. Just worth us thinking about checking with the escort about names first now you've raised the issue.

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I wasn't being critical, just pointing out a potential hiccup. Just worth us thinking about checking with the escort about names first now you've raised the issue.

..I think its the limitation of a thread in terms of communicating but I didn't think you were being critical either - actually I was more interested to know was there another angle or take....and indeed, it is an interesting area but ladies rightly stress their own safety viz a viz full name, room number, but if I had said I have come to see 'Elizabeth Amazing' say that would have made look a right chump......I think at the end of the day punting always has an element of ris, cock up, you just gotta to go with the flow I guess and do the best you can to think on your feet.

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..I think its the limitation of a thread in terms of communicating but I didn't think you were being critical either - actually I was more interested to know was there another angle or take....and indeed, it is an interesting area but ladies rightly stress their own safety viz a viz full name, room number, but if I had said I have come to see 'Elizabeth Amazing' say that would have made look a right chump......I think at the end of the day punting always has an element of ris, cock up, you just gotta to go with the flow I guess and do the best you can to think on your feet.

 

Agreed. As an escort started the thread, it is another factor for the escort to consider when she susses out what info needs to be conveyed to each punter as opposed to unnecessary stuff such as the lift takes 15 seconds rather than which way to turn on leaving it and to knock only once and quietly, for example.

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