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giving a bad service....... why bother at all ?

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I think its fair to say prostitution is not something that most women would feel comfortable in as a career, full-time or otherwise,It requires character, personality,discipline, courage, a thick neck etc,etc--- the list goes on..It also crucially requires an acceptance of an intrusion into the lady's personal space that very few, if any, other activities match. It is not a profession for the faint hearted.

Having said this, why does it seem that so many WGs apparently give a bad service ? On another thread there is a discussion on the merits of guys having a Regular. whats coming thru there is that whilst ' variety is the spice of life ' , most guys would like to combine the variety sweet shop with one or more regulars. Most businesses spend a lot of effort in providing their clients with a good service in the hope that they will do repeat returns in the future, thereby making the ongoing relationship profitable for the service provider [ the WG in the case of prostitution.].

Interestingly [from reading the posts of punters here ] other professionals are probably under greater pressure to excel at the expertise of that profession, as the punter's greatest complaint of WGs is not their expertise but merely her attitude and enthusiasm.

So having made the tough and difficult decision to step into prostitution, why is it then that a significant number [ not saying a majority but judging from the posts here, a sizeable number all the same ] of WGs seem to have a bad attitude, provide unenthusiastic service and allow their clients to easily move on to another lady, thereby depriving themselves of the one thing that made them enter this profession-- the money.

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I guess everyone has a bad day now and again. Just because she was having a bad day the day that that report was written, doesn't mean she consistently gives bad service. I've been working two years, and I have 10 p'net reports. I can assure you though, I've seen more than ten guys. If one of those reports was negative though, it would immediately imply that 10% of the time I'm shite. (it's not, by the way :) ).

I know everyone will say 'Well, if she's having a bad day she shouldn't be working' but how practical is that? A parlour lady for example, calling in and telling her boss 'I'm having a bad day, I'm not coming in' will be tagged as unreliable and may be dropped for shifts next time. An indie, working this around family or another job, doesn't know when the next call might come in (or at least, one that she'll be able to accomodate).

The difference as well, is that if you get bad service from the girl in Tesco's, chances are you'll moan a bit at home about it and then forget. It probably won't stop you shopping there, and you're unlikely to say to everyone you know 'Avoid Tesco's, they're shit'. And even if you do, most people will laugh, commiserate, then forget it.

In this world, you get bad service, you report it. You have influence and you know it.

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I think its fair to say prostitution is not something that most women would feel comfortable in as a career, full-time or otherwise,It requires character, personality,discipline, courage, a thick neck etc,etc--- the list goes on..It also crucially requires an acceptance of an intrusion into the lady's personal space that very few, if any, other activities match. It is not a profession for the faint hearted.

Having said this, why does it seem that so many WGs apparently give a bad service ? On another thread there is a discussion on the merits of guys having a Regular. whats coming thru there is that whilst ' variety is the spice of life ' , most guys would like to combine the variety sweet shop with one or more regulars. Most businesses spend a lot of effort in providing their clients with a good service in the hope that they will do repeat returns in the future, thereby making the ongoing relationship profitable for the service provider [ the WG in the case of prostitution.].

Interestingly [from reading the posts of punters here ] other professionals are probably under greater pressure to excel at the expertise of that profession, as the punter's greatest complaint of WGs is not their expertise but merely her attitude and enthusiasm.

So having made the tough and difficult decision to step into prostitution, why is it then that a significant number [ not saying a majority but judging from the posts here, a sizeable number all the same ] of WGs seem to have a bad attitude, provide unenthusiastic service and allow their clients to easily move on to another lady, thereby depriving themselves of the one thing that made them enter this profession-- the money.

I agree, to an extent with what you say.

Having taken the obviously massive decision to step into the line of work, it does seem a little short sighted to not make a bit of an effort to retain your clients.

The great ladies, like great showman, will always leaving you wanting more!. There is a lady who posts on here, who is an absolute professional, great attitude, and seems to enjoy her work;).

I suppose it is like all work, you get out what you put in. If you go the extra mile, enjoy your time whilst working, that will rub off onto your clients. We should'nt forget that the time passes quicker if you are busy, rather than sitting waiting for the phone to ring - that cant be nice:(.

I wonder if Natasha from HOD could give tutorials and coaching to those requiring a bit of business coaching:D

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I know everyone will say 'Well, if she's having a bad day she shouldn't be working' but how practical is that? A parlour lady for example, calling in and telling her boss 'I'm having a bad day, I'm not coming in' will be tagged as unreliable and may be dropped for shifts next time. An indie, working this around family or another job, doesn't know when the next call might come in (or at least, one that she'll be able to accomodate).

I understand that and can appreciate girls having an off day, but for a guy spending alot of money on a girl is that very fair?

Punting can get expensive at times, and i dont think its too much to ask when a guy is spending what he does on a girl, for her to be 100% on form for him

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I honestly think some girls don't actually know they are giving a bad service. See for example my thread on what constitutes prostitution which I have resurrected.

What is worse is if they do. Then they are just taking the piss. :)

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Would think everyone can have an off day, from the plumber to the sollicitor to the accountant. I know sollicitors that charge quite a bit more than the average girl that still can't make a descision or need to be corrected.

One huge difference is that escorts and punters need to connect on a slightly different level than is the case in most other lines of work.

I would say that the other site has made it too simple for girls to decide to start escorting, thus possibly having some of them make the descision too lightly.

At the same time, some girls have been doing this for too long and somehow do not actually enjoy the job anymore, but don't have an option or do not want to do something else.

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.........So having made the tough and difficult decision to step into prostitution, why is it............

I think the type of girl you are referring to hasn't really made many decisions at all and would probably not be employable in an ordinary mainstream job anyway. They just see it as a quick and easy way to make money with a one line ad in the newspaper rather than a profession or business where repeat customers are important.

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I think its fair to say prostitution is not something that most women would feel comfortable in as a career, full-time or otherwise,It requires character, personality,discipline, courage, a thick neck etc,etc--- the list goes on..It also crucially requires an acceptance of an intrusion into the lady's personal space that very few, if any, other activities match. It is not a profession for the faint hearted.

Having said this, why does it seem that so many WGs apparently give a bad service ? On another thread there is a discussion on the merits of guys having a Regular. whats coming thru there is that whilst ' variety is the spice of life ' , most guys would like to combine the variety sweet shop with one or more regulars. Most businesses spend a lot of effort in providing their clients with a good service in the hope that they will do repeat returns in the future, thereby making the ongoing relationship profitable for the service provider [ the WG in the case of prostitution.].

Interestingly [from reading the posts of punters here ] other professionals are probably under greater pressure to excel at the expertise of that profession, as the punter's greatest complaint of WGs is not their expertise but merely her attitude and enthusiasm.

So having made the tough and difficult decision to step into prostitution, why is it then that a significant number [ not saying a majority but judging from the posts here, a sizeable number all the same ] of WGs seem to have a bad attitude, provide unenthusiastic service and allow their clients to easily move on to another lady, thereby depriving themselves of the one thing that made them enter this profession-- the money.

Some ladies get away with it at least for a while because some punters simply accept bad service and wont walk or find it difficult to do so. They think with their dicks and just go ahead regardless of her having a bad attitude or the enthusiasm of a corpse. In my view this will never change so some bad providers know they can get away with it.

It doesnt help IMO that punters are not allowed within the present FR rules to submit an FR on a punt where they have walked without paying due to bad service or lies, this is a flaw in the system in my view and is against punters and works for bad providers. I realize a punter could lie and say they did pay, but i have no interest in lying personally. A board member has the option of posting about the experience, but how many punters will that post reach, not that many in my view.

I think the majority of WGs do offer a good service, not sure where your thinking comes from on this, in my experience good service offered is in the upper 80 percentage range and the FR stastistics show positive FRs are just above 90%, plus through knowing a lot of other punters they quote similar success to me.

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I have had a few memorable bad experiences in my town, Some stunning looking girls will always get punters thru the door on looks alone.

I will always leave negative feedback (like e-bay) if i feel the wg deserved it.

I tend to stick with the same girls as i know what to expect in terms of service, if they treat me well i will return.

Some really are not cut out for escorting and see it as a quick way to earn money.

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If I am having a bad day in my private life ( family problems probably the chief reason for this ) then I have 2 choices.

Either be unavailable for the work or, take appointments but make damn sure the clients doesn't get even a hint of things which may be on my mind while we carry out the session.

No half way for me. I hope I never give a poor service or have a less than attentive attitude towards my clients.

Some of the reviews would have us believe that there are ladies out there doing this work who would rather not be touched at all by their clients and would rather not have to have any physical contact at all.

I find that shocking and so very wrong.

Ladies who have been working full time for 2 or more years can indeed become jaded and uninterested to the point of no longer wishing to be in the company of clients. But this is by no means a given. I have been escorting for 6 years now, 2 part time and the last 4 years as my sole occupation and income.

I am not jaded or worn out in the slightest. Not all clients are fun to be with, not all clients are good company or pleasant to be intimate with. None of that matters though, I treat all clients with the enthusiasm they would expect, whether it is entirely genuine every time is of course, my secret.

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In my small sample, I've had one really bad experience of poor service, one I would quantify below average ( due to attempted time-wasting imo), and two out of the ball-park.

At no time have I felt the female didn't want to be there.

I will not make a booking with someone that hasn't had positive reports. Of course I appreciate the 'pioneers' that do this and report their experiences. They can get their own rewards for that.

Basically in my estimation if you book with a well reported provider the chances of her being frigid or mis-represented are very slim. No reports make it more of a gamble.

Perhaps there will be the occasion where the chemistry is just not there, through nobody's fault. Part and parcel of the game.

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........Some ladies get away with it at least for a while because some punters simply accept bad service and wont walk or find it difficult to do so. They think with their dicks and just go ahead regardless of her having a bad attitude or the enthusiasm of a corpse.......

Walking isn't always an option as it's quite often after you have paid the money over, stripped off and got down to business that despite having agreed certain required services beforehand you get told "I don't kiss" , "you can't touch me down there" , "I never take my stockings or shoes off", "no reverse oral" or they just lay there like a sack of spuds etc etc.

One girl in a parlour I visited wouldn't even take her bra off - a complaint to the owner got me a free service the next time I visited.

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If I am having a bad day in my private life ... I make damn sure the client doesn't get even a hint ...

Not all clients are ... pleasant to be intimate with. None of that matters though, I treat all clients with the enthusiasm they would expect, whether it is entirely genuine every time is, of course, my secret.

This is the hallmark of a truly professional escort. x

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Walking isn't always an option as it's quite often after you have paid the money over, stripped off and got down to business that despite having agreed certain required services beforehand you get told "I don't kiss" , "you can't touch me down there" , "I never take my stockings or shoes off", "no reverse oral" or they just lay there like a sack of spuds etc etc.

One girl in a parlour I visited wouldn't even take her bra off - a complaint to the owner got me a free service the next time I visited.

I have reported on such instances on here and by FR. If this occurs i still walk but i understand other punters might want to make the most of a bad thing, to get something for their cash. It does mean the punter is able to submit an FR though, i wonder how many do, and how many just want to forget about it and move on.

At least the Parlour offered something, when i used Agencies which i wouldnt again due to being lied to on too many occassions, i was told to fuck off more than once after complaining. Customer service wasnt in their vocabulary.

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I have reported on such instances on here and by FR. If this occurs i still walk but i understand other punters might want to make the most of a bad thing, to get something for their cash. It does mean the punter is able to submit an FR though, i wonder how many do, and how many just want to forget about it and move on.

At least the Parlour offered something, when i used Agencies which i wouldnt again due to being lied to on too many occassions, i was told to fuck off more than once after complaining. Customer service wasnt in their vocabulary.

That is commendable willpower and discipline, smiths. Beyond my powers imo :)

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I'm wondering whether sub-standard provision of services are attributable to where a client goes to punt?

To expand upon the word "where", are you more likely to receive inferior service from a parlour/sauna compared to Indies/Agencies or vice versa?

Or is it an equitable distribution and probablity of experiencing an inferior service from sources mentioned?

Some of the attributes of poor service described here, from personal experience, I can relate to from my early years (1994-1998) where in London it was those Phone Booths plastered with call-girl calling cards (some good ones, but overall poor-mediocre).

Past decade, for me, I've just sourced my pleasure time using Agencies and Independents, with a high percentage being good-very good-excellent, the poor sessions experienced, tolerable as the positive experiences far outweigh my negative experiences.

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I remember, a good few years ago, going to a parlour and being told that the lady I wanted to see was "busy". I was persuaded to see another lady.

It didn't go particularly well. The lady in question was, apparently, out to make to a few quid to support her child/children and, equally apparently, wasn't cut out for the line of work she'd chosen.

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That is commendable willpower and discipline, smiths. Beyond my powers imo :D

For me once the lady has shown what IMO is a bad attitude i simply lose all interest in her and go elsewhere, i certainly dont want to have sexual relations with her anymore. Mind you in my early punting days in the 80s i didnt think like this, all sense went out the window in the pursuit of getting my end away.:):)

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If I am having a bad day in my private life ( family problems probably the chief reason for this ) then I have 2 choices.

Either be unavailable for the work or, take appointments but make damn sure the clients doesn't get even a hint of things which may be on my mind while we carry out the session.

No half way for me. I hope I never give a poor service or have a less than attentive attitude towards my clients.

Some of the reviews would have us believe that there are ladies out there doing this work who would rather not be touched at all by their clients and would rather not have to have any physical contact at all.

I find that shocking and so very wrong.

Ladies who have been working full time for 2 or more years can indeed become jaded and uninterested to the point of no longer wishing to be in the company of clients. But this is by no means a given. I have been escorting for 6 years now, 2 part time and the last 4 years as my sole occupation and income.

I am not jaded or worn out in the slightest. Not all clients are fun to be with, not all clients are good company or pleasant to be intimate with. None of that matters though, I treat all clients with the enthusiasm they would expect, whether it is entirely genuine every time is of course, my secret.

:)

This is the hallmark of a truly professional escort. x

I second that Tea Bag, Adele's approach is exemplary.

FRs, discussion boards, etc. demonstrate an audit culture within the industry but there are no independent bodies such as an ombudsman, OFPUNT, Quality Assurance Agency etc. to evaluate service provision and deal with grievances - levelled by either WGs or punters. As such agencies obviously couldn't and shouldn't exist, the satisfactory functioning of this industry for providers and customers alike depends on goodwill and mutual respect. The wonderful example set by Adele at the very least deserves to be reciprocated by courteous, hygienic and respectful punters.

If I'm not prepared to be clean, personable and pay the specified rate I shouldn't be punting; and if a WG isn't prepared to give a good service she shouldn't take my money. We both have an end to keep up: simple.

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That is commendable willpower and discipline, smiths. Beyond my powers imo
For me once the lady has shown what IMO is a bad attitude i simply lose all interest in her and go elsewhere, i certainly dont want to have sexual relations with her anymore. Mind you in my early punting days in the 80s i didnt think like this, all sense went out the window in the pursuit of getting my end away

Heh ! I suspect smiths, that knowing your next punt is only a few hours (or at worst days away) helps steel the resolve as well :)! Not every punter can afford to walk away from a sub-standard encounter once his money has been kissed goodbye. It may be weeks or even months before some guys can afford to punt again :D.

I can only assume that those girls who offer sub-standard service get away with it because a sizeable portion of the punting pool is there to be taken for mugs. Fortunately, the majority of girls (or at least the ones I see) are hard working and very professional. Mind you, some of the stories you read on hear make your toes curl !!

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Heh ! I suspect smiths, that knowing your next punt is only a few hours (or at worst days away) helps steel the resolve as well :D! Not every punter can afford to walk away from a sub-standard encounter once his money has been kissed goodbye. It may be weeks or even months before some guys can afford to punt again :).

I can only assume that those girls who offer sub-standard service get away with it because a sizeable portion of the punting pool is there to be taken for mugs. Fortunately, the majority of girls (or at least the ones I see) are hard working and very professional. Mind you, some of the stories you read on hear make your toes curl !!

I did say in an earlier post that some punters want to make the most of a bad situation, so do stay, i appreciate their reasoning. For these punters research is even more important IMO.

I rarely dont strike lucky with a plan b, normally a regular or Party provider, but i am always disappointed by having to walk, but it is something that doesnt happen that often overall.:):)

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Do the posts on here serve as a worthy source of information to suggest a significant number of WGs have a bad attitude? And what would we consider as significant in percentage terms?

However, IMO most of the time, bad punts/service arise from the WG and her client not clicking (personality clash etc). The smart girls (especially) should know when they are not up to it on a particular day and make the necessary changes to their schedule if they feel that it will affect their work. The very smart ones will know the finer points of dealing with even the most difficult of clients tactfully and sensitively. They will also be able to get into character and deal with their not so good moments. Adele, your post sums this up nicely.

We should also consider the fact that there is no formal academy or qualification for WGs. Specialists such as solicitors will have learned how to deal with people on a professional level and will be more prepared overall. Even the humble Tesco checkout girl will have received some grounding in customer relations. Though she is hardly an appropriate contrast considering the service and cost at stake here. If a new WG already possess this as a natural social skill, then this will serve her well. Otherwise she will have to learn it over time but some never do, some don’t have the savvy and some simply don’t care.

Talking numbers though, there are some WGs with in excess of 100 FRs who have a 100% record. Not bad going since many consider that a punter is more likely to write an FR after a bad experience than a good one.

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I did say in an earlier post that some punters want to make the most of a bad situation, so do stay, i appreciate their reasoning.

You did indeed. I was only pulling your leg :).

For these punters research is even more important IMO.

Thank goodness for punternet I say.

it is something that doesn't happen that often overall.:):D

I agree. In my experience, there aren't that many truly poor service providers around (that's not to say that the experience doesn't vary a LOT). Also, as has been well demonstrated on Natasha's recent thread, guys contribute to poor punting experiences at least as often as girls do.

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I suppose it all depends how you define bad service and your general outlook in life towards other people, but, if before handing over the cash you can agree to the services you require then you are half way there i would have thought. To make somebody who you find sexually unattractive feel like they are casanova must be one heck of a skill and that's why i presume it costs so much. To go into a punt expecting X,Y and Z is unrealistic and i think our attitude can make the all important difference. If you see a WG who completely blows your mind then you will always judge every other WG you see by that standard. If a good WG has many regulars who she may be sexually attracted to or more importantly enjoys their company, she isn't going to bend over backwards to give somebody she finds obnoxious the time of their life and i don't blame her.

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I suppose it all depends how you define bad service and your general outlook in life towards other people, but, if before handing over the cash you can agree to the services you require then you are half way there i would have thought. To make somebody who you find sexually unattractive feel like they are casanova must be one heck of a skill and that's why i presume it costs so much. To go into a punt expecting X,Y and Z is unrealistic and i think our attitude can make the all important difference. If you see a WG who completely blows your mind then you will always judge every other WG you see by that standard. If a good WG has many regulars who she may be sexually attracted to or more importantly enjoys their company, she isn't going to bend over backwards to give somebody she finds obnoxious the time of their life and i don't blame her.

I dont agree that going into a punt expecting x,y and z is unrealistic, i require certain things which i make clear when arranging the punt, DFK is an essential for me, if the lady says she offers it then ensuring i am hygienic i would expect to receive it. I do agree the attitude of both punter and WG do make the all important difference.

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