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I am not condoning or condemning escorting or punting here (far from it). However, it has been on my mind lately, why we get into it (nature v nurture etc) - if there is any reason. I mean, I know that many of the girls and guys on this forum now say that in the main they enjoy this business. However, I think there is no doubt that it is highly frowned upon in society as a whole. I don't think any girl would grow up thinking "I want to be an escort when I grow up" (happy to hear from those who would say otherwise) and from what I remember when I was growing up, I would never have even contemplated being a punter.

I have heard people referring to reports (on TV and the newspapers) that say that a majority girls who go into prostitution have been in the care system at one time or another, 70% of escorts (or some similar number) would do a different job if they could or many of the girls have been sexually abused as children. I am skeptical about these reports, firstly because I have not read them (please let me know where they can be found if you know), secondly because they all seem to be sponsored by the anti prostitution lobby (although I stand to be corrected), thirdly because that is not the impression I get from a majority of the WG's I've been with (although how would I know as I would never ask such personal questions face to face of a WG). I have the impression that a majority of these surveys are done with street girls and not indies or parlour girls (again stand to be corrected).

So, given that people on this forum can be anonymous (if they want to be), I hope I can ask for people's comments on this. In particular, how many punters or escorts on here have been in the care system as children, grown up with or been a part of violent or abusive domestic relationships, been sexually abused as children or had some other traumatic event in their lives (and yes I know pretty much everyone will have suffered some trauma in life) which they feel may have contributed to them being a part of this business. Also, do any punters or escorts know whether their parent(s) where ever involved in this line of work (either as escort or punter)? I know that my Dad admitted to me once that he had seen WG's.

I appreciate that I am simply trying to (in part) fill in gaps in my own ignorance and apologies in advance for the same. I certainly believe that whatever the reasons we get involved in this business, the right thing to do would not be to criminalize it even further (in fact the opposite).

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And it's only January 1! Here we go...

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I am not condoning or condemning escorting or punting here (far from it). However, it has been on my mind lately, why we get into it (nature v nurture etc) - if there is any reason. I mean, I know that many of the girls and guys on this forum now say that in the main they enjoy this business. However, I think there is no doubt that it is highly frowned upon in society as a whole. I don't think any girl would grow up thinking "I want to be an escort when I grow up" (happy to hear from those who would say otherwise) and from what I remember when I was growing up, I would never have even contemplated being a punter.

I have heard people referring to reports (on TV and the newspapers) that say that a majority girls who go into prostitution have been in the care system at one time or another, 70% of escorts (or some similar number) would do a different job if they could or many of the girls have been sexually abused as children. I am skeptical about these reports, firstly because I have not read them (please let me know where they can be found if you know), secondly because they all seem to be sponsored by the anti prostitution lobby (although I stand to be corrected), thirdly because that is not the impression I get from a majority of the WG's I've been with (although how would I know as I would never ask such personal questions face to face of a WG). I have the impression that a majority of these surveys are done with street girls and not indies or parlour girls (again stand to be corrected).

So, given that people on this forum can be anonymous (if they want to be), I hope I can ask for people's comments on this. In particular, how many punters or escorts on here have been in the care system as children, grown up with or been a part of violent or abusive domestic relationships, been sexually abused as children or had some other traumatic event in their lives (and yes I know pretty much everyone will have suffered some trauma in life) which they feel may have contributed to them being a part of this business. Also, do any punters or escorts know whether their parent(s) where ever involved in this line of work (either as escort or punter)? I know that my Dad admitted to me once that he had seen WG's.

I appreciate that I am simply trying to (in part) fill in gaps in my own ignorance and apologies in advance for the same. I certainly believe that whatever the reasons we get involved in this business, the right thing to do would not be to criminalize it even further (in fact the opposite).

I do it because I ENJOY IT. I treat every WG with respect for providing this service and do not ask why or care what made them enter the business.

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I thought you had warts Enzio, reading your earlier posts.. You should not be doing it at all!

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Thank you Pia. Until now the keyboard was reasonably free of black coffee :)

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Neither of my parents have been involved in the sex industry. My brother did have a wank over a porno mag once, but that is irrelevant.

I have met girls who have been sexually abused and have been in violent, abusive relationships, but I haven't met many. Besides, it's not usually what we talk about - I prefer some simple dirty talk for getting me aroused.

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Thank you Pia. Until now the keyboard was reasonably free of black coffee :D

Apologies :)

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Might need to sit comfortably for this one and get out the popcorn.

Sorry but this sounds like the start of a troll / journo ......could be wrong!

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You say that prositution is frowned on, i think that is understating the case, there is a social and moral stigma attached to providers and more particularly, users; who are I think, just opposite sides of the same coin. For me the key issue isnt why someone does it, its what is it that has influenced their mindset to make it acceptable to themsleves to do it.

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My very fist experience with prostitutes was from the street scene many moons ago. One thing that surprised me was the large number of girls who had been bought up in care and come from broken homes as well as having drink and drugs issues. Not something I gave much thought to back then but in retrospect it did and still does serve to add weight to the common and prevailing knowledge about this industry.

When I began to use escorts it was a completely different kettle of fish. These girls seem to be much more self-directed and focused in their choices and work. Of course there is always the line where one blurs into the other but the distinction is clear that they are, for the most part, two very different species.

For me personally, I come from a stable family background, have a decent education and just enjoy the convenience using escorts offers.

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I am not condoning or condemning escorting or punting here (far from it). However, it has been on my mind lately, why we get into it.

An alternative way of looking at it is, why shouldn't I do it?

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My Mum had a boyfriend who hit her and was an alcoholic (him not her) when I was 14 I was taken into care as much due to my refusal to go to school as as my Mums situation.

So theres some of the typical reasons that I'm a working girl right :)

I stayed in care until I was 17 and was given my own flat and got a job and went back to college a bit later and started doing reception in my friend from colleges Mums massage parlour. Thats how I started working.

I'm not a drug addict or dependant on any sustances and I work because I CHOOSE to not have to or anyone makes me :D

When are people going to loose this silly attitude that we are all doped up, pimped, beaten up defenseless women :)

RANT OVER!

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I'm not a drug addict or dependant on any sustances and I work because I CHOOSE to not have to or anyone makes me :)

When are people going to loose this silly attitude that we are all doped up, pimped, beaten up defenseless women :D

RANT OVER!

Sorry if my question made it sound as though I was trying to further the stereotypes that exists. I appreciate where the anger on that front is coming from and apologies. That wasn't what I was trying to get at. I have to say that most of the WG's I have been with (and I am no expert) don't seem doped up, beaten up, pimped or anything similar. In fact, most seem to be doing it completely of their own volition and enjoying it. I think that Guestspeaker probably put the question in a better way, namely:

For me the key issue isnt why someone does it, its what is it that has influenced their mindset to make it acceptable to themsleves to do it.

At the end of the day we live in a society that is quick to judge. To work or partake in the sex industry is walking in the opposite direction to that which society judges "normal". In a way, all I am trying to work out is what (if any) trials people may have gone through which has made them more adept at walking against this grain and if there is a common theme. My question is aimed as much at the Punter as the WG which I agree are two sides of the same coin.

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Now let me think: You see a photo of a girl you find attractive who'll have sex with for an affordable fee and you don't have to go through a mating ritual or let her think you want to spend the rest of your life with her. No brainer to me.

Metaphorically, i am a football team that is having it's stadium rebuilt and is therefore renting a venue to play at until it's home is finished. At the moment i am more Wimbledon than Charlton Athletic. I do it because right now i couldn't get my head around an intense relationship and in all honesty i can't get one night stands with the girls who float my boat. Far too difficult. I don't want to punt forever, see it's limits and am aware of it's dangers, and in no way would i ever go behind somebodies back, therefore i have no conscience whatsoever.

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I do often wonder what makes some women happy to be wg's and other (most?) wouldnt consider it even for big money. The latter cannot imagine having sex with a random stranger, just as I couldnt have sex with a man for any money, whilst it is quite easy for others, who become wg's. Something must make that difference in the mind. not sure what though!

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An alternative way of looking at it is, why shouldn't I do it?

Indeed. I like punting with as many ladies as possible, mainly for the sex they offer of their own free will as far as i know in exchange for an agreed amount of cash. For me the reasons why they chose to become WGs is their business, some have told me over the years and if true, its been for a few different reasons, getting out of debt, making fast cash and because they enjoy it have been some. Delving into childhoods isnt my idea of fun at a punt so i dont go there.

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Prostitution has been going on since the human race began and will continue until it ends.

It is ridiculous for hypocritical, moralising politicians to announce they will put a stop to it. The will NEVER achieve an end to it.

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I have never been in care. My parents are still married. I was a reasonably happy child. I was not sexually abused. I never experienced violence in the home, either as a child or an adult.

Would I do another job if I could? I can, I do, I have done, I will continue to do so.

Would I do another job INSTEAD of prostitution? I would do any job that paid this well for so few hours.

As for the whole 'sex with random strangers' thing - I like sex. I like meeting people. I am naturally sociable and no-one is a stranger for long. And at the end of the day, it's only sex - some people act like it's a big deal :)

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It makes a helluva nice change from sexual boredom with one woman, that can cost mega bucks after a few years; instead you can have plenty of variety and/or repeat punts if you and the wg('s) get on well. What's more the cost is identified from the outset and can be budgeted for - it just can't be bad!

Added bonuses are, it should come minus any moaning about a bad back, frequency or time of day/night, etc etc .... what a novelty. :)

As for the attendant nasties of coercion and so forth, if I ever got into that sort of situation I'd be looking for the tip off route asap.

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I think that both nature and nurture have little to do with it. It is more likely to be a function of intelligence coupled with the independent thinking. Players tend to think for themselves rather than have all their answers provided by organised religion. Similarly, they question why government or parts of society would wish to exercise control over their private lives, especially where this only involves agreed acts between consenting adults.

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Now let me think: You see a photo of a girl you find attractive who'll have sex with for an affordable fee and you don't have to go through a mating ritual or let her think you want to spend the rest of your life with her. No brainer to me.

Yep, that's pretty much it!

I've had girlfriends and I've been married and that was all (well, mostly anyway!) good and fine at the time. Now that I'm older, I don't have the desire to go out and try to meet women on a 'social and maybe a shag' basis. I'm not particularly sexually attracted to women of my own age and I don't think younger women would really be attracted to me, so what are my options?

My parents were sober, sensible people and I was brought up in a happy, secure family with 'normal' social and religious values but I'm a libertarian with a non-conformist/rebellious streak a mile wide, so the idea of breaking with social convention appeals to me.

And most of all, I enjoy sex...! :)

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I do it because I love women. Also, do you know that stomach and head churn you get when when you see a really physically sexy girl/woman but you had to blank it out because you couldnt do anything about it, for a whole host of reasons ? Well with punting now I can strip her, fk her and go down on that girl and taste her etc, and I dont have to be concerned with any strings or trouble afterwards [ except sexual health issues of course ]. Its f**k** fantastic--- thanks girls !! If I had endless cash, I wouldnt bother with other addictions , I'd give WGs all my money. :)

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I do it because I love women. Also, do you know that stomach and head churn you get when when you see a really physically sexy girl/woman but you had to blank it out because you couldnt do anything about it, for a whole host of reasons ? Well with punting now I can strip her, fk her and go down on that girl and taste her etc, and I dont have to be concerned with any strings or trouble afterwards [ except sexual health issues of course ]. Its f**k** fantastic--- thanks girls !! If I had endless cash, I wouldnt bother with other addictions , I'd give WGs all my money. :)

Well said that man.:D;)

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There are so many reasons as why we punt. Personally, I get no fun at home, but wish that there was no social stigma attached to what I do. I absolutely love my missus, but lack sex which is the ONLY downside to my relationship. To imagine being with anyone else, though, is impossible.

So,I punt occasionally, to fulfill my needs and ensure that I don't stray and find a mistress, who I might be emotionally involved with. I wouldn't want that, and with WG's, you know that it's a business transaction, although that doesn't stop you being mates with them.

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I have never been in care. My parents are still married. I was a reasonably happy child. I was not sexually abused. I never experienced violence in the home, either as a child or an adult.

Would I do another job if I could? I can, I do, I have done, I will continue to do so.

Would I do another job INSTEAD of prostitution? I would do any job that paid this well for so few hours.

As for the whole 'sex with random strangers' thing - I like sex. I like meeting people. I am naturally sociable and no-one is a stranger for long. And at the end of the day, it's only sex - some people act like it's a big deal :)

so well said! and I agree completely. I have never been in care my parents are still happily married i was a happy child from a good backround and have never been forced into it or experienced violence either.

I never thought as a child 'I want to be an escort' but then again i never new what I wanted to do! I worked in many jobs and hated them all! Escorting/Running my own agency has to be the best of them all something I finally have found that I can enjoy stick at and not dread waking up in the mornings! it pays well is always a challenge and a great adrenaline rush!

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