Siamese Tomcat

Patong, Phuket, Thailand.

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Someone PM’ed me for the lowdown on punting in Patong, so I thought I might as well start a thread as this southern part of Thailand gets little attention on here.

I’ve now been twice for a total of eight weeks, but bear in mind that I am not the shrewdest of punters and this is very much a personal interpretation of the situation. Also, I am only interested in punting “short-time” and have no wish to be tied to one girl for days or weeks – each to their own though, and it is plain to see from people-watching around town that many punters (and girls!) are keen on that scene!

If you’ve never been to Thailand before then you will be absolutely gob-smacked the first time you walk along Bangla Road after about 9:00pm – on the surface it is total in-your-face debauchery and decadence as on countless YouTube videos, but it’s not actually as wild as you might imagine, particularly if you’ve fantasised about hooking up with the female cast of the “Asian Street Meat” videos! It is very much a relentless sex-tourist trap but, having said that, a lot of the bar scene is a cock-tease and it’s not as easy to find a good quality sexual experience as you may imagine. However, don’t expect too much and it is really good fun if you’re reasonably careful, and there are some really nice people if you have the time to stop leering and get your face known!

Like the Thai scene in London, things have changed a lot in Patong – I returned for the same four weeks over Xmas and New Year and it was much quieter this year with even more of the bars in the main Bangla complexes un-let. The remaining ones seem have responded by concentrating on keeping you drinking rather than encouraging you to take a girl away – there may not be another customer on the horizon to take over your barstool! This suits the bar but not the girl – she will get B70* for each drink you buy them, but obviously that’s not as lucrative as fucking. (* Assume a rate of 1 = B50, so £1.40)

Last year it was typically B500 bar-fine and then B2,000 for short-time – which can be anything from one to ten hours depending on how many tricks the girl needs that evening, and whether she likes you and/or your hotel room!

This year it was generally B1,000 bar-fine up to 1am and then down to B500 – but if you meet a girl at 12am or earlier then it is far cheaper to pay the extra bar-fine as staying at the bar will cost you heaps more than the B500 saving and may influence your performance later on.

The girls I met did seem to have dropped their short-time prices from B2,000 to B1,500 to balance things out and the freelancers on the street are even cheaper - in fact there seemed to be a huge increase in the number that work independently this year, so maybe hustling for drinks and tips in the bars is simply not lucrative enough for many of them. Like being an agency girl in London?

Punting in Patong is very much centred on Bangla. There are literally hundreds of bars splattered over the rest of Patong and in many the girls (often outnumbering the customers!) will immediately latch onto you to buy them drinks. But they work often work for a basic salary plus a kick-back (around B70 for each drink you buy them) and a share of the tip pot, and are not available for takeaway. By all means, if someone takes your fancy then you can ask very politely if she will “boom-boom” with you, but don’t assume that every girl you see working in a bar is a WG. The same goes for the massage places – many of them are straight despite appearances.

The thing that struck me on both of my visits is how poor the Bangla girls’ service is compared to what I’ve got accustomed to back home - virtually all of those that I’ve met have been very inexperienced and I have only met one girl over the two visits who would have any chance of making a go of it in London!

From conversations it would appear that they come all the way to Phuket as “it is beautiful” compared to Bangkok or Pattaya. They obviously hope to make some quick money but very few can put up with the crazy lifestyle for more than a few months, and it is the most expensive part of Thailand, even for them as non-tourists! I recognised many of the core staff from last year, and many remembered me, but I only saw one WG (or WLB to be precise) and one “professional” pole-dancer that was familiar.

There are very few stunners among the Bangla bar-girls – this is rather frustrating as, during the day, Patong is wall-to-wall gorgeousness! I suppose it should be obvious, but it’s easy to forget that not every attractive female in Patong is a WG – the vast majority work in the stores, restaurants, hotels or selling condos.

The “dancers” (sic) in the bars tend to be the youngest and prettiest but in many cases they are primarily there as window-dressing or as bait to get punters to the bar and many do not do boom-boom. In fact, on two occasions I got up and walked away from really hot young dancers after I’d agreed the deal as they were simply in no hurry at all to go, and clearly just wanted me to stay and spend at the bar. Neither had any conversational skills and so it was an easy decision for me to make my apologies and walk away. Which reminds me – you can call for the bar-fine tab as soon as you agree terms, but never actually pay it until she is on her feet and ready to leave with you.

Almost all of the girls have a scooter parked in Soi Sansabai a few minutes’ walk away – if you’re really lucky it will be a bright pink Honda Scoopy! Most will be happy to cart you back to your hotel if it’s local, or you can get a taxi, tuk-tuk or motorbike taxi – I prefer the latter as it’s good fun three-up on a tiny little bike (B50 per passenger) as long as your hotel isn’t too far.  Also, the tuk-tuks hike their prices from B200 to B300 at night – still cheap though! Always check the price before you get in/on.

To be blunt, I judged most of the “available” bar-girls to be very much mutton dressed as lamb and were worth no more than a cursory glance – the quantity and quality of WGs seems to have diminished at a very similar rate to the Thai pool of escorts in London.

If and when I did find one I wanted to take away, many of them would rip off their false eyelashes and change out of their sexy outfits just before leaving the bar, especially if it’s a themed uniform. A little disappointing! Back at my hotel (often via the 7-11 for a junk snack) they invariably headed straight for the shower and one even spent ten minutes in there stripping off all of her make-up! She wasn’t time-wasting or avoiding me as she ended up staying for quite a while, she was just getting ready for bed as normal. Oddly, when they emerge, many dive straight under the sheets still wrapped in the towel – something I’ve never witnessed in London!

You’ll be very lucky to get any OWO or a CIM, let alone anal. and so it will generally be just a very straightforward fuck with no kissing or GFE stuff! They’re not being stingy or difficult, it’s just the way they are. Incidentally, RO seems to be a complete novelty to almost all of them, but they do generally enjoy it.

I was recommended to have a look at Christin Massage (in reality, an absolutely huge brothel) just along Rat-U-Thit Road – B3,300 all-in (tourist rate) for up to an hour and a half or so. I dropped in last year and there were some really nice girls but I didn’t like the atmosphere in the place. I tried again this year and there were very few girls and they were all absolute dogs. I sat down and had one drink and surveyed them on their “stage” for a few minutes, but was not at all tempted and so I left. I believe that it’s one pop and out at that place, and the manager is a rude bastard, so be aware of these things if you do venture there.

A place that I would recommend is the Crazy Horse Bar in the Tiger complex – the Tiger on the right a little way down Bangla heading towards the beach. The pole-dancers are absolutely amazing athletes, most of them with gorgeous hard bodies – ugly as fuck though! If I wasn’t in the mood for the hassle of a punt, I’d go and be entertained by them for an hour or so.

With twenty-eight nights in Patong, sometimes all of the pestering just got on my nerves and I just wanted to sit, enjoy my drink, and watch the world go by. This can be virtually impossible in Bangla but I found a way to keep the hustlers at bay - I would sit and order at the bar and buy the girl that served me a drink – she’d be delighted as this just doesn’t happen often, and she’d place it next to mine which serves as a “Keep Away” signal to the other girls. They were usually happy with that single drink or maybe one more after a while, and I actually got a few drinks bought for me in return at my regular haunts!

I realise that a lot of the above may seem negative, but I really do love Phuket and hope to spend some time there when I retire in a couple of years. It is not the punting paradise that I had expected, but I go there primarily to escape the grim English winter for a few weeks. I love the weather, the beaches (Nai Yang and Nai Thon are great little excursions on a scooter and almost deserted, even in peak season), the food, the people, but mainly just being somewhere totally alien. The punting is a nice little bonus on the odd evening, but no more than that for me.

I’ve already booked for next Xmas/New Year, but I think that I’m going to concentrate on the freelancers for my late-evening entertainment. Allegedly there is an increased risk of being ripped off or robbed by them, but my hotel reception records and holds the girl’s ID until I bring her back down, which should give me some protection.

To sum up, if your primary reason to travel to Patong is for cheap and plentiful quality sex then forget it and see some £70/£80 Polish or Hungarian girls in London. By the time you factor in drinks, bar-fines, and the girl’s fee, let alone the substandard service and the hassle and cost of actually going there, Patong simply does not make economic sense for punting – for me, London is far better value.

Note: In my experience everyone always plays safe but they do not always have condoms and so rely on you to provide. No problem – you’re never more than 100 yards from a 7-11 in Patong and they all seem to be open 24/7, although I would advise bringing your favourites from home as I believe the standard local ones are smaller than ours.

Another note: There is a significant aspect to to Thai sex scene that I have experience of but cannot post here due to forum rules. PM me for the missing information.

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11 hours ago, Siamese Tomcat said:

Someone PM’ed me for the lowdown on punting in Patong, so I thought I might as well start a thread as this southern part of Thailand gets little attention on here.

I’ve now been twice for a total of eight weeks, but bear in mind that I am not the shrewdest of punters and this is very much a personal interpretation of the situation. Also, I am only interested in punting “short-time” and have no wish to be tied to one girl for days or weeks – each to their own though, and it is plain to see from people-watching around town that many punters (and girls!) are keen on that scene!

 

If you’ve never been to Thailand before then you will be absolutely gob-smacked the first time you walk along Bangla Road after about 9:00pm – on the surface it is total in-your-face debauchery and decadence as on countless YouTube videos, but it’s not actually as wild as you might imagine, particularly if you’ve fantasised about hooking up with the female cast of the “Asian Street Meat” videos! It is very much a relentless sex-tourist trap but, having said that, a lot of the bar scene is a cock-tease and it’s not as easy to find a good quality sexual experience as you may imagine. However, don’t expect too much and it is really good fun if you’re reasonably careful, and there are some really nice people if you have the time to stop leering and get your face known!

 

Like the Thai scene in London, things have changed a lot in Patong – I returned for the same four weeks over Xmas and New Year and it was much quieter this year with even more of the bars in the main Bangla complexes un-let. The remaining ones seem have responded by concentrating on keeping you drinking rather than encouraging you to take a girl away – there may not be another customer on the horizon to take over your barstool! This suits the bar but not the girl – she will get B70* for each drink you buy them, but obviously that’s not as lucrative as fucking. (* Assume a rate of 1 = B50, so £1.40)

 

Last year it was typically B500 bar-fine and then B2,000 for short-time – which can be anything from one to ten hours depending on how many tricks the girl needs that evening, and whether she likes you and/or your hotel room!

 

This year it was generally B1,000 bar-fine up to 1am and then down to B500 – but if you meet a girl at 12am or earlier then it is far cheaper to pay the extra bar-fine as staying at the bar will cost you heaps more than the B500 saving and may influence your performance later on.

 

The girls I met did seem to have dropped their short-time prices from B2,000 to B1,500 to balance things out and the freelancers on the street are even cheaper - in fact there seemed to be a huge increase in the number that work independently this year, so maybe hustling for drinks and tips in the bars is simply not lucrative enough for many of them. Like being an agency girl in London?

 

Punting in Patong is very much centred on Bangla. There are literally hundreds of bars splattered over the rest of Patong and in many the girls (often outnumbering the customers!) will immediately latch onto you to buy them drinks. But they work often work for a basic salary plus a kick-back (around B70 for each drink you buy them) and a share of the tip pot, and are not available for takeaway. By all means, if someone takes your fancy then you can ask very politely if she will “boom-boom” with you, but don’t assume that every girl you see working in a bar is a WG. The same goes for the massage places – many of them are straight despite appearances.

 

The thing that struck me on both of my visits is how poor the Bangla girls’ service is compared to what I’ve got accustomed to back home - virtually all of those that I’ve met have been very inexperienced and I have only met one girl over the two visits who would have any chance of making a go of it in London!

 

From conversations it would appear that they come all the way to Phuket as “it is beautiful” compared to Bangkok or Pattaya. They obviously hope to make some quick money but very few can put up with the crazy lifestyle for more than a few months, and it is the most expensive part of Thailand, even for them as non-tourists! I recognised many of the core staff from last year, and many remembered me, but I only saw one WG (or WLB to be precise) and one “professional” pole-dancer that was familiar.

There are very few stunners among the Bangla bar-girls – this is rather frustrating as, during the day, Patong is wall-to-wall gorgeousness! I suppose it should be obvious, but it’s easy to forget that not every attractive female in Patong is a WG – the vast majority work in the stores, restaurants, hotels or selling condos.

 

The “dancers” (sic) in the bars tend to be the youngest and prettiest but in many cases they are primarily there as window-dressing or as bait to get punters to the bar and many do not do boom-boom. In fact, on two occasions I got up and walked away from really hot young dancers after I’d agreed the deal as they were simply in no hurry at all to go, and clearly just wanted me to stay and spend at the bar. Neither had any conversational skills and so it was an easy decision for me to make my apologies and walk away. Which reminds me – you can call for the bar-fine tab as soon as you agree terms, but never actually pay it until she is on her feet and ready to leave with you.

 

Almost all of the girls have a scooter parked in Soi Sansabai a few minutes’ walk away – if you’re really lucky it will be a bright pink Honda Scoopy! Most will be happy to cart you back to your hotel if it’s local, or you can get a taxi, tuk-tuk or motorbike taxi – I prefer the latter as it’s good fun three-up on a tiny little bike (B50 per passenger) as long as your hotel isn’t too far.  Also, the tuk-tuks hike their prices from B200 to B300 at night – still cheap though! Always check the price before you get in/on.

 

To be blunt, I judged most of the “available” bar-girls to be very much mutton dressed as lamb and were worth no more than a cursory glance – the quantity and quality of WGs seems to have diminished at a very similar rate to the Thai pool of escorts in London.

 

If and when I did find one I wanted to take away, many of them would rip off their false eyelashes and change out of their sexy outfits just before leaving the bar, especially if it’s a themed uniform. A little disappointing! Back at my hotel (often via the 7-11 for a junk snack) they invariably headed straight for the shower and one even spent ten minutes in there stripping off all of her make-up! She wasn’t time-wasting or avoiding me as she ended up staying for quite a while, she was just getting ready for bed as normal. Oddly, when they emerge, many dive straight under the sheets still wrapped in the towel – something I’ve never witnessed in London!

 

You’ll be very lucky to get any OWO or a CIM, let alone anal. and so it will generally be just a very straightforward fuck with no kissing or GFE stuff! They’re not being stingy or difficult, it’s just the way they are. Incidentally, RO seems to be a complete novelty to almost all of them, but they do generally enjoy it.

 

I was recommended to have a look at Christin Massage (in reality, an absolutely huge brothel) just along Rat-U-Thit Road – B3,300 all-in (tourist rate) for up to an hour and a half or so. I dropped in last year and there were some really nice girls but I didn’t like the atmosphere in the place. I tried again this year and there were very few girls and they were all absolute dogs. I sat down and had one drink and surveyed them on their “stage” for a few minutes, but was not at all tempted and so I left. I believe that it’s one pop and out at that place, and the manager is a rude bastard, so be aware of these things if you do venture there.

 

A place that I would recommend is the Crazy Horse Bar in the Tiger complex – the Tiger on the right a little way down Bangla heading towards the beach. The pole-dancers are absolutely amazing athletes, most of them with gorgeous hard bodies – ugly as fuck though! If I wasn’t in the mood for the hassle of a punt, I’d go and be entertained by them for an hour or so.

 

With twenty-eight nights in Patong, sometimes all of the pestering just got on my nerves and I just wanted to sit, enjoy my drink, and watch the world go by. This can be virtually impossible in Bangla but I found a way to keep the hustlers at bay - I would sit and order at the bar and buy the girl that served me a drink – she’d be delighted as this just doesn’t happen often, and she’d place it next to mine which serves as a “Keep Away” signal to the other girls. They were usually happy with that single drink or maybe one more after a while, and I actually got a few drinks bought for me in return at my regular haunts!

 

I realise that a lot of the above may seem negative, but I really do love Phuket and hope to spend some time there when I retire in a couple of years. It is not the punting paradise that I had expected, but I go there primarily to escape the grim English winter for a few weeks. I love the weather, the beaches (Nai Yang and Nai Thon are great little excursions on a scooter and almost deserted, even in peak season), the food, the people, but mainly just being somewhere totally alien. The punting is a nice little bonus on the odd evening, but no more than that for me.

 

I’ve already booked for next Xmas/New Year, but I think that I’m going to concentrate on the freelancers for my late-evening entertainment. Allegedly there is an increased risk of being ripped off or robbed by them, but my hotel reception records and holds the girl’s ID until I bring her back down, which should give me some protection.

 

To sum up, if your primary reason to travel to Patong is for cheap and plentiful quality sex then forget it and see some £70/£80 Polish or Hungarian girls in London. By the time you factor in drinks, bar-fines, and the girl’s fee, let alone the substandard service and the hassle and cost of actually going there, Patong simply does not make economic sense for punting – for me, London is far better value.

 

Note: In my experience everyone always plays safe but they do not always have condoms and so rely on you to provide. No problem – you’re never more than 100 yards from a 7-11 in Patong and they all seem to be open 24/7, although I would advise bringing your favourites from home as I believe the standard local ones are smaller than ours.

Another note: There is a significant aspect to to Thai sex scene that I have experience of but cannot post here due to forum rules. PM me for the missing information.

 

That is one of the best field reports I have seen on this forum.  I haven't been back to Phuket in years (my first visit was in 1988) but it changed markedly over the next 25 years, (some of it for the better, some of it for the worse.  Stickman's Weekly gives frequent updates on the situation there and your report more of less echoes his currsent assessment of the place.  Some of the change is due to the army putting the squeeze on Phuket (far more than on Pattaya) and the last I heard, you can't even find an umbrella cum beach chair lady to pamper your needs (which you can still do at Pattaya, though never on Wednesdays and some stretches of beach are brolly-less all of the time now).  Like you, I prefer longer visits, but unlike you, I tend to look for overnight company, or at least LTs, and if I strike it rich I may be inclined to book her for a few days/nights - I get fed up withe go-go and beer-bar scene (except the few that offer hands-on interaction) pretty quickly (been there, done that for too many years, and the overall pickings haven't improved).  In any case, Phuket wins hands-down for beautiful beaches and scenery and family types do not co-mingle with the sex tourists as much as Pattaya, the latter mainly concentrated in Patong.  Thanks for your own contribution!

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As mentioned, hugely informative and very useful in helping scratch an itch I have had for decades without me having to set foot outside the UK.

(But I hope not everyone feels the need to quote the OP's in its entirety in their own post...)

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Great post, thank you for sharing your experiences.

I have been visiting Thailand for nearly 20 years now but have never been to Phuket until now - something I will be correcting next month, as I have booked 4 nights there during my upcoming holiday. I won't get to experience the P4P scene however (although may well visit some of the bars in Patong) as I will be with my Thai gf... will be a new experience for me spending my whole trip with just one lady this time around. 

You make some valid points re: the difference in performance between the local girls and the Thai WGs who establish themselves in the UK. That said, I love performing DATY on the local girls as so few of them are used to it, and most of them really appreciate it! 

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Nice trip report SC. I've always spent my time in BKK or Pattaya never really considered Phuket as a punting destination that sounded appealing, but I should really get out and see more of Thailand. Ao Nang in Krabi looks interesting for a few days, I've heard it has a small bar scene, but tempted to head up to Issan/Udon Thani on my next trip and see the source of many a Thai working girl, especially as it has had some positive reports recently.

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I had the best TG experience ever when I was over there last (about 3 yrs ago).
 

Two girls at the bar both vying for attention, one was a true stunner but quite up herself (it was late ans she just wanted the cash) - the other was a really lovely girl who was funny and polite but only average looking/body - I chose the later, and when she got back to the room she went the the fuckin clappers....started off with her toe up my arse (I knew it would be good from there on in).

tried every position under the sun (and moon) - only thing she didn't want to do was anal - but did let me rim and finger her arse. I remember her very fondly indeed. (she worked in one of the Bangla pop up bar joints)

still to this day really only the decent TG I have had from HKT - like the OP says - they tend to shower then jump in to bed with a towel around them being all coy and shy!

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Well, my timing for opening this thread has coincided with some interesting developments.

I’ve read on a Thailand forum (so maybe a small pinch of salt?) that 50+ police did a purge on Bangla last night. They were primarily checking bar and club licenses, and worker’s and customer’s IDs, but also doing urine tests for drugs (which they do very indiscreetly, apparently). According to the post, every bar was closed by 01:30 which I find rather unbelievable, but I suspect they may have been following the letter of the law – for one night?

The inference was that this is a show of strength by the police in order to encourage a boost to their back-handers, but it seems rather OTT to me if that was the sole purpose.

I’m sure that anyone who has knowledge of the bureaucracy in Thailand will not be too surprised by this “news”, but it’ll be interesting to see what happens over the next few days.

Hopefully, Soi Cowboy will do a reconnoitre of Soi Sea Dragon next month and report back to us….

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Well, apparently there were very similar clampdowns in Pattaya and the Zoe area of Chiang Mai on the same night. Not really about the prostitution, but more about visa over-stayers and dodgy and/or flaunted drinks licenses.

Anyway, panic over - everything seems back to "normal" now in the RLDs.

TiT indeed!

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Just returned from Thailand during which time I spent 4 nights in Phuket, my first time visiting that part of the country. Was supposed to have been there with my Thai gf but things didn't work out, so ended up there alone - however, that did give me the opportunity to experience the nightlife.

Phuket is certainly a beautiful place. I stayed at the U Zenmaya hotel in Kamala, about 15 mins drive from Patong. Lovely, luxurious place to stay, however not easy to travel around if not relying on the hotel shuttle bus to get into town. 

My first night I didn't go out as I was recovering from a stomach bug that had me throwing up the night before. Second night I headed to Bangla Road and started at Bar Funk 3 opposite the Tiger Complex. Then across to Bar Funk 2, and finally Pink Paradise. Got chatting to one of the dancers there and bought her a couple of drinks. She had a good body but I wasn't willing to barfine. 

Second night I started off walking around the beer bar complex by Coney Bar. Couldn't spot one woman I wanted to sit and drink with. People watched at the aptly named Sea Dragon bar. Then to Blix. A stunning dancer came over and introduced herself. I would have barfined her right away but it was clear she was working the room. Moved to the next bar in (can't recall the name) and got chatting to a dancer there. Bought her a drink but as soon as she finished she went to sit with another customer. Moved on to Bar Funk 2 since one girl there seemed the most keen for me to stop and have a drink. I bought her a couple of drinks and she gave me her phone number but made no effort to get me to barfine her. She kept telling her friend how tired she was and she just wanted to go home and sleep. Couldn't spot any other girls I wanted to chat up so ended up going home alone again.

My initial conclusions? Phuket is a lot more expensive, with drinks averaging 150 - 240 baht and the same for lady drinks. It's a more mercenary scene, with a younger clientele. Lots of younger guys who think they are god's gift. The standard of women in the bars is much poorer than Pattaya or Bangkok, and I found it much harder to find attractive girls who would spend time having a conversation. 

On the third day I sent a message to the girl who'd given me her number asking what she was doing. She video called me via WeChat. I asked if she wanted to come over... she said yes... about an hour later (3pm) she arrived at my hotel. We fucked, she asked if I would barfine her tonight so that she didn't have to work and I agreed. We (finally) got a taxi into Patong, went back to her room where she got changed, then she took me out to dinner on her bike, we walked around a local fete and played bingo, then onto her bar for a couple of drinks. Lots of other customers demanding her attention but she stuck with me and then rode us back to the hotel around midnight. She left in the morning when I checked out and has messaged me every day since. 

I gave her 4000 baht when she left - there had been no discussion of price - but I feel 3000 baht is a fair price for LT and gave her a bit extra since she'd come over the afternoon before and had to pay for a taxi.

A nice conclusion - but I still vastly prefer Pattaya and Bangkok.

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Very interesting comments SC and I'm pleased that it worked out well for you in the end.

I'm surprised you didn't actually go into either of the Tiger complexes at the top end of Bangla - at least there is some decent eye-candy in those places compared to the dreadful side-Sois, but that is usually all that it is - eye-candy!

So we agree, great place for a beach-bum, crappy place for a punter.

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Sorry, I should have clarified, all but one of those bars I mentioned were within the Tiger Complexes!

A few good looking girls but in no hurry to be barfined from what I observed.

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Oh right - I didn't recognise the names - the only ones I actually sat and drank at were Crazy Horse (where I liked to watch the "proper" pole-dancers) and the bar behind it (where I got up and walked away from two hotties) which I think was called Penitentiary .

As you say - the girls were not in any hurry to go anywhere, and conversation is pretty much impossible in there so what's the point?

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