garifto

had a bait and switch

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had a bait and switch from this AW profile UserID=3269440

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Expected denisa verified her height n weight but was a different girl not what I was looking for. Wasted journey

I know the AW profile had no + / visible feedback but the availability at 2am+  was an appeal so I risked it. 

 

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Denisa has a verified profile, if the lady you saw was different to those pictures in her profile then look at the bottom left of her profile page and click on "Authentic member" then answer the required questions, note that you must be logged in as a AW member to do so.

As regards to stated weight and height on AW profiles take it with a pitch of salt. 

Disregard feedbacks, many WGs don't use the AW booking system so no feed back does not automatically mean a warning sign, had loads of happy punts  with no FB.

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Denisa has chosen not to allow her feedback to be viewed, which I always treat as a warning sign.

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I don't take verified/not veritied that seriously 'cos the escort has to show ID to be verified and it's understandable if they don't want to. And clearly this one was verified but a different girl.  I did see the feedback issue as a warning obviously but I risked it as mentioned. Best I can do though is that anybody comes on punternet and searches that mobile number will find  this. 

 

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58 minutes ago, garifto said:

I don't take verified/not veritied that seriously 'cos the escort has to show ID to be verified and it's understandable if they don't want to. And clearly this one was verified but a different girl.  I did see the feedback issue as a warning obviously but I risked it as mentioned. Best I can do though is that anybody comes on punternet and searches that mobile number will find  this. 

 

If you believe this lady to be different to the lady that you visited as a punter you have a duty now to complete a Punternet review to warn other punters and then to inform adultwork by using the "Authentic member tab" that is at the bottom left of her profile page, I take it that you have done neither?

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1 hour ago, Carnival said:

Denisa has chosen not to allow her feedback to be viewed, which I always treat as a warning sign.

If you mouse over her feed back tab although she has chosen not to display, its still shows that it was a Positive feedback.

As aw feedbacks are given for other things such as chat and webcam it makes them almost worthless.

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feedbacks can be useful e.g. if they are desriptive and say it's not the same girl..

anyhow i've posted a punternet review, the admin just have to ok it.

I am not convinced of the benefit of informing adultwork.  What would they do?     All it really deserves is a note stating that it wasn't the girl in the ad.. quite possibly they have another girl that does match and their admin side was being dishonest and might behave better next time.  What would AW do? Delete the profile?  Make a note saying the escort isn't or is no longer verified?  (An annoying message since to be verified requires the escort to send them ID and I don't agree with that.. there are many legit non verified escorts)..

 

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14 minutes ago, garifto said:

feedbacks can be useful e.g. if they are desriptive and say it's not the same girl..

anyhow i've posted a punternet review, the admin just have to ok it.

I am not convinced of the benefit of informing adultwork.  What would they do?     All it really deserves is a note stating that it wasn't the girl in the ad.. quite possibly they have another girl that does match and their admin side was being dishonest and might behave better next time.  What would AW do? Delete the profile?  Make a note saying the escort isn't or is no longer verified?  (An annoying message since to be verified requires the escort to send them ID and I don't agree with that.. there are many legit non verified escorts)..

 

If you are not prepared to inform AW then there is no point in this topic remaining to be honest. If you follow Authentic member procedure then AW will act, if you don't inform them then you are helping scammers to mislead other punters.

If they provide another lady she will have to provide a copy of the original passport, a new ID picture with current date, then 24 hours later provide a current utilities bill in the passport holders name, then provide another id picture standing next to the road sign that matches the address on the utilities bill holding the days newspaper and passport.

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Gentlemen, get your poles out and let's continue fishing.  The fish don't like too much noise.

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Who is this JKAY and why would you give a toss?!?! 

And by the way you can always walk out if the girl is not the one that you expected. 

I'd stick to the reputable agencies at least you know more or less what your getting!

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On Sunday, March 06, 2016 at 0:49 PM, Carnival said:

Denisa has chosen not to allow her feedback to be viewed, which I always treat as a warning sign.

I agree with this if she chooses not to allow her feedback to be viewed take it as red that those reviews are bad and steer well clear!

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On ‎26‎/‎03‎/‎2016 at 8:30 PM, benbatig said:

Who is this JKAY and why would you give a toss?!?! 

I give a toss because I'm a punter and will always give advice if it helps another punter from being scammed or ripped off.

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On 06/03/2016 at 1:25 PM, garifto said:

I don't take verified/not veritied that seriously 'cos the escort has to show ID to be verified and it's understandable if they don't want to. And clearly this one was verified but a different girl.  I did see the feedback issue as a warning obviously but I risked it as mentioned. Best I can do though is that anybody comes on punternet and searches that mobile number will find  this. 

 

I do not understand how verified or not helps a punter (but only shows AW's 'supremacy'): I heard of lots of girls giving temporarily or even permanently their profiles to girls from their countries.  Having lots of pictures (taken by the girl preferably) weighs in much more for me than this 'verification process'.

 

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4 hours ago, Annabellexoxo said:

I do not understand how verified or not helps a punter (but only shows AW's 'supremacy'): I heard of lots of girls giving temporarily or even permanently their profiles to girls from their countries.  Having lots of pictures (taken by the girl preferably) weighs in much more for me than this 'verification process'.

 

Agree. Verification is worth absolutely naff all. Girls have changed their profiles and swapped then, sometimes the veri pic is of a 45 year old and the girl in the pics is 25! It means absolutely nothing, I only verified for Webcam purposes, otherwise I don't really see the point.

i agree with pictures, lots of clear pictures, that are hers and don't come up in searches. Also you can tell a lot about a girl from how she writes her profile or blog! The amount of men that have commented on how my profile or blog was written was insightful. It goes to show some do read it haha. :)

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On 06/03/2016 at 8:42 PM, JKay said:

If you are not prepared to inform AW then there is no point in this topic remaining to be honest. If you follow Authentic member procedure then AW will act, if you don't inform them then you are helping scammers to mislead other punters.

If they provide another lady she will have to provide a copy of the original passport, a new ID picture with current date, then 24 hours later provide a current utilities bill in the passport holders name, then provide another id picture standing next to the road sign that matches the address on the utilities bill holding the days newspaper and passport.

I think his point is that if he does alert AW, they would then contact the girl saying to provide updated pictures for proof. His point is the girl may be real and could be a friend who then takes new ID pics to prove she is real and it is her profile. However, whenever a punter books her, she will do a bait and switch with her friend therefore carrying on the scam and AW won't do anything because they already verified her again.

 

I've asked girls on there how they are verified. It's not the most trustworthy/ true method of weeding out the scammers. It can be useful but not always. It's why I prefer agencies over AW.

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This post is about a booking I made for this Friday just gone at 5:30pm. For now, I'm not going to name the WG, (don't feel comfortable with naming&shaming just yet), so let's just call her Miss X for now. 

Her pictures and reviews on AW were very encouraging. When you see someone with 50+ feedback, you can have a bit more confidence that you're not gonna be shafted in some way. 

I was coming in straight from work but got stuck on the tube, delaying my journey by about 10 minutes. According to the postcode I was given, I had a 15 minute walk from the station to her place. As soon as I had the chance, I called her to tell her that I was running late but I am on my way. She told me not to worry and that all was fine. I walked on and finally got to my destination when I gave her another call. It then turns out that I was given the wrong postcode. Her place was actually a 5 minute walk away from the station, which meant I was a further 10 minutes away. I turned back and finally got to the right address, I gave her another call. She gave me the room number and I made my way in.

Now, at this point, I was already 25 minutes into my booking and even though it was no fault of my own, I would understand if she said that she can only offer me 30 minutes so the rest of her schedule isn't turned upside down. 

I finally entered the room and was met by a busty EE lady, early 40's who warmly greeted me. Nothing seemed wrong until I entered the bedroom making small talk with her, when my phone rang. It was Miss X.... 

I thought, "How can that be? She's standing right there. That is her, right?!"

i answered the phone: "hi, are you in yet?"

"yes, I'm in. Where are you? Who is this?"

she hangs up and doesn't answer when I try to call her back. Meanwhile the lady in front of me is trying to explain the situation. The penny had well and truly dropped for me. Miss X was supposed to be a Thai lady in her early 30's. No face pics are on the site, but I saw enough to tell the difference. She first claimed to be the miss X but when I questioned her further, she admitted that her name was Hannah and Miss X had to leave because I was late, so she went on an outcall. She kept on asking if it was a big problem, "you don't like me?" I told her I didn't mean any offence, but I came to see Miss X, not her. So she went into another room for a minute. In that time, I did have a slither of fear in me. Who was in the other room? Would it be a couple of big fellas coming in to rough me up and mug me if I threatened to leave? Instead, Hannah came back with ANOTHER girl, Laura. Both of them tried to make me stay. Both were decent looking, but that's not the point. I had done my research on Miss X, gone through the feedback and chose to book her. Going in blindly with one of these two would be a total risk. Besides, I felt like they were already quite dishonest with me, so who's to say that their service will be guaranteed quality? 

I gave my reasons and left, feeling quite proud of myself that I didn't lose anything apart from time. I very nearly stayed, thinking "I'm here now, I don't want to offend them and it's almost impossible to say no to sex." As I left the building, I called Miss X once more. She said I was late so she had to leave, though she did apologise for the incorrect postcode and the situation as a whole. She even offered me a deal with one of those girls, but the horse had bolted. 

The reason I haven't named and shamed yet, is because I still have a glimmer of hope for Miss X, especially if her good feedback continues. Although the excuse of the outcall seems like bullshit, I may give it one more go. If I feel like I'm being taken for a ride again though, I'll be out of there. I've walked away once, I'll walk away again if I have to. 

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