Jab85

Indian escorts who don't see black men

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I have been using the services of escorts for the last 7 years. I am black, all this time I have been able to meet only one Indian working girl (5 years ago), she was born in the UK and in her early 20s (I will give her 10 out 10 for her service and no complaints) I asked her why most Indian escorts don't see black men, her reply was "she doesn't understand as we are all the same"
On websites you see Indian escorts say 'sorry I don't see black or mixed race (black/white) due to bad experience or I only see white,Asians,Orientals or they say things like am not racist just personal preference'
Some don't even mention on their profile if they see black or mixed race men, when you call they will ask you questions like "where are you from, are you Asian (they are careful not to ask are you black)" I tell them I am black and the response will be sorry I don't see black or my friend doesn't see black men and she just answers the phone.

I had bad experience with Indian working girl yesterday. On her profile there was no "I don't see black men" We had one thing in common as I speak another language which she also speaks. She sent me her post code and we agreed to meet, when I got to her Street I phoned her and she gave me her door number telling me the door is open. 
When I went in she looked at me and said "but you are black, sorry you have to leave" her excuses were the house is her friend's and she doesn't live there. I then asked her what's wrong with my skin colour, her answer was nothing wrong. She said her friend doesn't want black men to come to her house.

As soon as I left she phoned me to say sorry and that she will see me this coming week at hotel (which I will have to pay) and that she is not racist. She also sent me text message saying "sorry about today" She blamed her friend. The country I am from there are black, Asians and white. She assumed I wasn't black. Luckily for me it was a short journey but I was shocked to be told to leave because of my race.
After I got home i did check profiles of Indian escorts in the UK, 8 out of 10 had sorry I don't see black men (some had no mixed race of black and another race) on their profiles.
I have seen white,orientals etc and race has never been a problem.

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3 hours ago, Jab85 said:

I have been using the services of escorts for the last 7 years. I am black, all this time I have been able to meet only one Indian working girl (5 years ago), she was born in the UK and in her early 20s (I will give her 10 out 10 for her service and no complaints) I asked her why most Indian escorts don't see black men, her reply was "she doesn't understand as we are all the same"
On websites you see Indian escorts say 'sorry I don't see black or mixed race (black/white) due to bad experience or I only see white,Asians,Orientals or they say things like am not racist just personal preference'
Some don't even mention on their profile if they see black or mixed race men, when you call they will ask you questions like "where are you from, are you Asian (they are careful not to ask are you black)" I tell them I am black and the response will be sorry I don't see black or my friend doesn't see black men and she just answers the phone.

I had bad experience with Indian working girl yesterday. On her profile there was no "I don't see black men" We had one thing in common as I speak another language which she also speaks. She sent me her post code and we agreed to meet, when I got to her Street I phoned her and she gave me her door number telling me the door is open. 
When I went in she looked at me and said "but you are black, sorry you have to leave" her excuses were the house is her friend's and she doesn't live there. I then asked her what's wrong with my skin colour, her answer was nothing wrong. She said her friend doesn't want black men to come to her house.

As soon as I left she phoned me to say sorry and that she will see me this coming week at hotel (which I will have to pay) and that she is not racist. She also sent me text message saying "sorry about today" She blamed her friend. The country I am from there are black, Asians and white. She assumed I wasn't black. Luckily for me it was a short journey but I was shocked to be told to leave because of my race.
After I got home i did check profiles of Indian escorts in the UK, 8 out of 10 had sorry I don't see black men (some had no mixed race of black and another race) on their profiles.
I have seen white,orientals etc and race has never been a problem.

firstly its a girls right to see who she wants.  I dont think you would be comfortable with a gorl seeing someone she is uncomfortable with.  Apart from the fact it would be a crap punt.

But I am afraid several girls have pointed on on similar discussions here that they have had bad experiences with certain ethnic groups and I am afraid its peobably once bitten twice shy.

I am afraid you are stuck with this.

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I agree with you that it is a girl's right to see who she wants. From what I have seen it is mainly Indian escorts who have 'I dont see black men'. I have also come across profile of black girls (not many) not wanting to see black men. Some give reason by saying due to bad experience (I don't know if it is true or not). I have yet to see oriental and white working girls in my area say 'no black men'

It is an observation I made. What made me to post on this forum is what happened to me yesterday (being told to my face because I am black she wouldn't see me at that house..but she will see me at hotel)

I understand there are some girls who have had bad experience but I don't think it is true for all of them.

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There are women of all ethnic groups who refuse to see a range of other ethnic groups. It may not be the case in your area but I've certainly read in profiles of white and Asian advertisers that some groups are excluded, including black men.

There's no way of knowing how many women have had bad experiences themselves. However, some of the situation is down to perception which may or may not be based on experience. It's unfortunate when an entire group is seen as a potential threat, or overly dominant, because some individuals act that way. Out of the paid sex arena I know a number of women doctors and other professionals who are uneasy when first meeting black and middle Eastern men, because they have felt intimidated, or diminished, by individuals who are used to a 'dominant male' society without women in positions of authority or responsibility.

It's a sod for you, but I'd advise you to do what I do when I see an advert with an upper age limit below that of my advanced years: murmur  'Your loss sunshine' and move on. I'd much rather not have a meeting with someone who has a hangup about one (or more) of my characteristics.

 

 

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From my experience it has been down to personal preference based on a girls past experience.  It is annoying but understable,  As a british asian i have been to strip clubs where the girls wouldn't give me a private dance cause of bad experience from other indians.  It's a shame a few spoil it for the rest.

Also, when it comes to sex and intimacy, some white girls I've spoken to (in general) have said they are just not attracted to certain ethnicities like indians or wider asians as a whole.  It's nothing against us personally as some of these girls are friends with these people in the "real world".  

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we had this topic here. its a girls right to not see who she doesnt. while that essentially means discrimination by race. you just say her loss and go to someone who will. 

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11 hours ago, pabulum said:

There are women of all ethnic groups who refuse to see a range of other ethnic groups. It may not be the case in your area but I've certainly read in profiles of white and Asian advertisers that some groups are excluded, including black men.

There's no way of knowing how many women have had bad experiences themselves. However, some of the situation is down to perception which may or may not be based on experience. It's unfortunate when an entire group is seen as a potential threat, or overly dominant, because some individuals act that way. Out of the paid sex arena I know a number of women doctors and other professionals who are uneasy when first meeting black and middle Eastern men, because they have felt intimidated, or diminished, by individuals who are used to a 'dominant male' society without women in positions of authority or responsibility.

It's a sod for you, but I'd advise you to do what I do when I see an advert with an upper age limit below that of my advanced years: murmur  'Your loss sunshine' and move on. I'd much rather not have a meeting with someone who has a hangup about one (or more) of my characteristics.

 

 

some 'ethnic' women wont see men from their own ethnicity  (Hate the effnik word)  cos they are afraid of seeing someone they know.  remember, the black and asian communities are far smaller and close knit that the white community so I spose thats a real risk.

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Very true, sir.

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On 3/26/2016 at 10:30 PM, Chetang1343 said:

Also, when it comes to sex and intimacy, some white girls I've spoken to (in general) have said they are just not attracted to certain ethnicities like indians or wider asians as a whole.  It's nothing against us personally as some of these girls are friends with these people in the "real world".  

This "excuse" its just ludicrous! If every WG would only get intimate with a clients they "attracted" to, they would get as much business as selling electric shavers in the Amish community. No even need to ponder about this one. I am sure that that girls (given the opportunity) will rather shag Imaad Irfani, then John Mccrick.

There are variety reasons for not seeing people of certain ethnicities (mentioned on this forum in the past ad nauseam, so I am not going to repeat it again). The only plausible one: when WG refuse to see clients from the same ethnical background, where the reasons are obvious: high possibility to meet relative, friend, friend of relative, and so on..

As to the OP question: (which nobody tried to answer so far)  I did noticed also that mostly are South Asians WG who particularly discriminate against seeing guys from Afro-Carribean descent. There are also UK, European, South  East WG, who discriminate or prejudiced too, but in much smaller proportion. (in comparison with Indian/south Asian WGs) It must be some historical, cultural, sociological, etc. answer to it. Can anybody at least try to explain why its the case?

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whats the big deal - if I saw an ad - no whites only blacks - I would just move on.

it sort of re-inforces the exclusion policy of some escorts when black men start getting shirty about being ruled out

 

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2 hours ago, lancelot said:

whats the big deal - if I saw an ad - no whites only blacks - I would just move on.

it sort of re-inforces the exclusion policy of some escorts when black men start getting shirty about being ruled out

 

Indeed, their body, their health, their choices - also maybe their priority in this business is not being busy.  So good luck with their choices, whatever they are.

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I do think if a wg is going to restrict who they see then they should say so on their ads so guys don't end up wasting their time and being turned down face to face.It must be really horrible to be turned away at the door like that.

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34 minutes ago, Bibi said:

I do think if a wg is going to restrict who they see then they should say so on their ads so guys don't end up wasting their time and being turned down face to face.It must be really horrible to be turned away at the door like that.

yes but in the case of the OP he booked knowing she doesnt take blacks - and he clearly felt that just because he spoke the same lang as the girl it would exempt him from this rule.

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I am sad that some escorts should feel the need  to restrict their client base on racial grounds, though they must have the right so to do. I just hope they say so in their profiles so as to avoid unpleasantness later.

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3 hours ago, lancelot said:

yes but in the case of the OP he booked knowing she doesnt take blacks - and he clearly felt that just because he spoke the same lang as the girl it would exempt him from this rule.

I have read the original post 3 times now.Where in his post does it say that he knew she didn't see blacks but went along anyway?

In his original post he states that this particular lady had no 'I don't see blacks' on her profile.So no he did not know that she felt this way before booking nor did it say he thought them speaking the same language would give him leverage.

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21 minutes ago, Bibi said:

I have read the original post 3 times now.Where in his post does it say that he knew she didn't see blacks but went along anyway?

In his original post he states that this particular lady had no 'I don't see blacks' on her profile.So no he did not know that she felt this way before booking nor did it say he thought them speaking the same language would give him leverage.

true apart from the obvious blatant issue of racism. there is also the element of time and effort wasted combined with embarassment for the punter. all things likely to make the punter "shirty "

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My first regular escort in London was a very slight Lady. She said that she wouldn't see black men simply because one or two she had seen in the past were so well endowed that they caused her a great deal of pain. I wonder whether any other Ladies on this forum have had a similar experience?

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7 minutes ago, oldjack said:

My first regular escort in London was a very slight Lady. She said that she wouldn't see black men simply because one or two she had seen in the past were so well endowed that they caused her a great deal of pain. I wonder whether any other Ladies on this forum have had a similar experience?

I know of two escorts who have had a similar experience. They haven't refused to see black men though, one mentions she has to ask for size before hand, and the other mentions that it could be difficult for the more well endowed guys so they need to be careful. 

I think it's happened to quite of us where a bigger than average client has come in, and it's been uncomfortable or painful especially when you're tighter, I certainly have. 

In regards to the OP, there's nothing you can do about girls blanket banning, this has been done to death so many times. I think any girl who blanket bans should state so on her profile or website out of common courtesy for those she doesn't see making a wasted journey.  

I state very clearly I see white males only both in my profile text and FAQ, I also ask them when they email me to be sure. My reasoning is because of how big my family and friends unit is I have twice been booked by someone I know through family and mutual friends and it's completely horrible, especially when my escorting is secret! It made me paranoid and the only solution was to blanket ban,

If a girl refuses to see you just move on and take your money to someone who does. No biggie :)

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5 hours ago, Bibi said:

I have read the original post 3 times now.Where in his post does it say that he knew she didn't see blacks but went along anyway?

In his original post he states that this particular lady had no 'I don't see blacks' on her profile.So no he did not know that she felt this way before booking nor did it say he thought them speaking the same language would give him leverage.

sorry to the OP I misread it - he says there was no "i dont see blacks" notice.

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But being black and knowing a significant % of girls have a problem with it - he ought to inform in advance just to cover himself. he may not sound like your average black man

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13 hours ago, lancelot said:

whats the big deal - if I saw an ad - no whites only blacks - I would just move on.

it sort of re-inforces the exclusion policy of some escorts when black men start getting shirty about being ruled out

 

Be honest, this doesn't happen much though does it.  I think in a different world you might get a bit "shirty".

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38 minutes ago, lancelot said:

But being black and knowing a significant % of girls have a problem with it - he ought to inform in advance just to cover himself. he may not sound like your average black man

What does an "average " black man sound like?  Two posts running, people will begin to think I'm not a racist.  :)

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Just now, robert49 said:

What does an "average " black man sound like?  Two posts running, people will begin to think I'm not a racist.  :)

I'd like to know what an "average black man" sounds like too. Being a black female myself with plenty of black male family members and friends I'm intrigued as to what lancelots average black man description is!

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21 hours ago, Xenia said:

As to the OP question: (which nobody tried to answer so far)  I did noticed also that mostly are South Asians WG who particularly discriminate against seeing guys from Afro-Carribean descent. There are also UK, European, South  East WG, who discriminate or prejudiced too, but in much smaller proportion. (in comparison with Indian/south Asian WGs) It must be some historical, cultural, sociological, etc. answer to it. Can anybody at least try to explain why its the case?

I'm not pointing the finger at anyone, but traditionally there's a lot of deep-routed racism from Asians towards black people in general (I want to stress, less-so with the modern day British Asians, more-so those directly from the Indian sub-continent.)

Forgetting about the escorting world for a moment, I know traditionally Asians aren't keen on Asians marrying people from other ethnic backgrounds. With white /Caucasian people, they can be persuaded on the grounds that the children will be "beautiful". However, afro features (e.g. the nose, hair etc.) are seen as deeply unattractive they almost seem them as (dare I say it) sub-human.

Another example was when in Uganda in the 1970's and Idi Armin expelled all the Asians, what upset him more than refusing to share their wealth, was Asians saying that Africans were not good enough to marry their daughters. There was another case where a black guy was dating an Asian girl (please note, he was not a "typical" confident black guy or a "rude boy", he was a quiet guy who was into his studies)... and her family / community were dead against them dating; the only person supporting their relationship was her brother. The girls family did everything to try and separate them (including sending her back to an Indian village) and ultimately resulted in the community doing a so-called "honour killing".

 

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On ‎26‎/‎03‎/‎2016 at 9:12 PM, Jab85 said:

I agree with you that it is a girl's right to see who she wants. From what I have seen it is mainly Indian escorts who have 'I dont see black men'. I have also come across profile of black girls (not many) not wanting to see black men. Some give reason by saying due to bad experience (I don't know if it is true or not). I have yet to see oriental and white working girls in my area say 'no black men'

 

 

I've seen a few, one from a Thai girl of which said that "I don't see black men, sorry but you gentlemen are too big for me"

On ‎26‎/‎03‎/‎2016 at 9:12 PM, Jab85 said:

It is an observation I made. What made me to post on this forum is what happened to me yesterday (being told to my face because I am black she wouldn't see me at that house..but she will see me at hotel)

At least she was prepared to offer you that option... Most times I've experienced it's been a flat "no"

 

On ‎26‎/‎03‎/‎2016 at 9:12 PM, Jab85 said:

I understand there are some girls who have had bad experience but I don't think it is true for all of them.

Call me a cynic, but I think a lot of people just say that as an excuse not to see people of "X" ethnic group, knowing they will not be questioned on the matter.

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