Colonel Bonkers

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This is the non-fluffy equivalent to the Happy Birthday thread, where we can celebrate the demise of those whom the world is better off without.

If I'd started the thread a few weeks ago, we could have got it off with a bang with the death of Hitler (April 30), but here's a relatively little-known Nazi whose grave we can enjoy spitting on: Philippe Bouhler (died on this day by suicide in 1945). Philippe's main hobby was euthanasia, and he particularly enjoyed applying it to the physically disabled and mentally handicapped. We're not missing you, sunshine.

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This is the time of year for dead Nazi top brass. On this day in 1945 Heinrich Himmler bit into the cyanide pellet he had conealed in his mouth during a medical after being captured by British troops.

Of all the Nazis, he has always seemed to me the most chillingly unpleasant. Goering had some of the features of a jolly, Al-Capone-style gangster, Goebbels was so crazy he seems to leave moral judgments behind, and whenever I see footage of Hitler it's always his general weirdness I'm most struck by. Himmler did everything he did in the coldest of blood. It was he who set up and organized the final solution and monitored its progress with undisguised pleasure.

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Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow were killed in a police ambush on this day in 1934.

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On May 28th, 1948, Unity, the most ghastly of the Mitford sisters died. A Nazi fanatic and Jew-hater, she spent the five years before the war in Germany and became very close to Hitler and other leading Nazis. The rumour still persists that she bore his child in England, and that it was given out for adoption.

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May 29th, 1994 is the anniversary of the death in Chile of Eric Honecker, the East German leader who presided over the building of the Berlin wall and gave orders for the ruthless shooting of those trying to escape. Precise figures are still unavailable, but the deaths are thought to number more than a thousand. Later, he remained deaf to Gorbachev's suggestions that he liberalize the system. He was put on trial, but the Constitutional Court ruled that he be freed on compassionate grounds (ill health).

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18 hours ago, Colonel Bonkers said:

May 29th, 1994 is the anniversary of the death in Chile of Eric Honecker, the East German leader who presided over the building of the Berlin wall and gave orders for the ruthless shooting of those trying to escape. Precise figures are still unavailable, but the deaths are thought to number more than a thousand. Later, he remained deaf to Gorbachev's suggestions that he liberalize the system. He was put on trial, but the Constitutional Court ruled that he be freed on compassionate grounds (ill health).

his pupil is still around. Angela merkel.

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A big boo today for one of the biggest catastrophes in modern European history, Kaiser William II, who died on June 4th, 1941. Blundering, erratic, touchy and volatile, if any man can be held responsible for the outbreak of World War One, he can. And, no World War One, no Nazis.

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13 hours ago, Colonel Bonkers said:

A big boo today for one of the biggest catastrophes in modern European history, Kaiser William II, who died on June 4th, 1941. Blundering, erratic, touchy and volatile, if any man can be held responsible for the outbreak of World War One, he can. And, no World War One, no Nazis.

I've always been intrigued by the thought of what might have been if...  While no one would wish people like Hitler and the Nazis on the world it also true that we only know what wouldn't have happened.  It's hard to imagine that the history of the last 100 years could be worse but you never know.  Of course, none of us would be around to debate it.

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This one is three days late, but this is the first chance I've had to post it.

Following Col Bonkers' theme of high-ranking Nazi officials.. on June 4th 1942, Reinhard Heydrich died of wounds sustained when Czech paratroopers, trained in Scotland by the SOE, threw a bomb under his car in Prague.

Heydrich worked directly under Himmler and was in charge of organizing the nuts-and-bolts details of the "final solution". He was also, from all accounts, very good at his job. Had he lived, who knows how many more victims there would have been.

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8 hours ago, Galahad said:

This one is three days late, but this is the first chance I've had to post it.

Following Col Bonkers' theme of high-ranking Nazi officials.. on June 4th 1942, Reinhard Heydrich died of wounds sustained when Czech paratroopers, trained in Scotland by the SOE, threw a bomb under his car in Prague.

Heydrich worked directly under Himmler and was in charge of organizing the nuts-and-bolts details of the "final solution". He was also, from all accounts, very good at his job. Had he lived, who knows how many more victims there would have been.

Unfortunately for the Czech people, this wasn't one of SOE's finest hours as it resulted in severe reprisals by the Nazis including the destruction of the village of Lidice.

 

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23 minutes ago, Bob the Builder said:

Unfortunately for the Czech people, this wasn't one of SOE's finest hours as it resulted in severe reprisals by the Nazis including the destruction of the village of Lidice.

 

Probably had no influence on the outcome of the war so Lidece's fate a sad case of what is now called collateral damage.  War is a sod.  No tears for Heydrich though.

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We remember one of the all-time bastards today: the Emperor Nero, who quit this earth on June 9th, 68AD at the fortunately young age of 30. Some modern historians try to spoil all the fun (as they do with Richard III) by saying he wasn't as black as he was painted, but who's listening to them? He packed a fair amount of murder and mayhem into his short life, even murdering his mother (who, admittedly, was a nasty piece of work herself), and it all, predictably came to a bad end and he had to scarper. Unable to bring himself to die in the noble Roman way, he got his secretary to deal him the fatal wound.

Peter Ustinov, who played him in Quo Vadis?, used to tell a nice story about the experience. He once nervously asked the director for advice as to how he saw Nero's character. "Nero?" growled the great man. "He was a sonuvvabitch!" Not far wrong, really.

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It might seem a bit of an anti-climax after Nero, but on this day in 1727 George I died. Really one of the most unlikeable of English kings - fat, greedy, self.indulgent and irascible. He managed to get his wife's lover killed, while the lady herself spent the remaining 32 years of her life imprisoned. Somehow not the sort of thing one expects from an eighteenth-century king. He would have gladly imprisoned his son and heir too but was persuaded that this was not the done thing. He died of a stroke after an unusually large meal, even by his standards.

Any redeeming features? Well, some people on this forum might appreciate him being an admirer of BBW, in which category almost all his many mistresses (one of whom was known as The Elephant) fell.

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On June 19th 1975 the American mobster Sam Giancana was gunned down in his home in Illinois.

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Another gangster, this time part of the New York Jewish mob, Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel was shot dead on June 20th 1947 at the age of 45. The usual story of murder, rape, drug-trafficking and protection rackets - and high-placed friends, of course. "Once Upon a Time in America" is a romanticized interpretation of the main lines of his life.

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Executed with a bullet on July Ist, 1934 the morning after the night before (and what a night! the Night of the Long Knives), the head of the Nazis'  SA militia, Ernst "Gays-Can-Be-Nazis-Too" Rohm. He was very close to Hitler, but Hitler smelled a potential rival in him. Rohm refused the offer to shoot himself and demanded Hitler came and did it himself. Hitler, however, preferred to delegate (it is very probable that he never personally killed a single person in all his life).

Rohm's SA were just a bunch of thugs of alarming dimensions, roughing up anyone who could be conceived of as hostile - Reds, intellectuals, journalists, Jews...the usual ones,

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On July 5th 1950 the Sicilian bandit Salvatore Giuliano was shot dead in his sleep. His life has been much glamourized since, but basically he was just another Mafia boss whose activites were much what you'd expect - extortion, kidnapping and mass murder.

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In the early hours of July 10, 2010 Raoul Moat shot himself after a police manhunt lasting nine days. He had killed an ex-girlfriend, her boyfriend and a police officer. In death he became another object of Britain's bizarre celebrity culture, one woman, Teresa Bystram, travelling all the way from Surrey to Newcastle for the funeral. She took her three teenage sons with her (leaving the other five at home, and yes, she was on benefits), regarding Moat as a role model for them. "Better than Legoland" was her verdict on the funeral.

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4 hours ago, Colonel Bonkers said:

In the early hours of July 10, 2010 Raoul Moat shot himself after a police manhunt lasting nine days. He had killed an ex-girlfriend, her boyfriend and a police officer. In death he became another object of Britain's bizarre celebrity culture, one woman, Teresa Bystram, travelling all the way from Surrey to Newcastle for the funeral. She took her three teenage sons with her (leaving the other five at home, and yes, she was on benefits), regarding Moat as a role model for them. "Better than Legoland" was her verdict on the funeral.

Got your facts wrong there Col. Moat killed one person, not three

btw - what's being on benefits got to do with it? :unsure:

Given that your post misrepresents the facts and relies on stereotypes, are you training for a job as reporter for one of the tabloids :rolleyes:

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17 minutes ago, Lick n Suck said:

Got your facts wrong there Col. Moat killed one person, not three

btw - what's being on benefits got to do with it? :unsure:

Given that your post misrepresents the facts and relies on stereotypes, are you training for a job as reporter for one of the tabloids :rolleyes:

 

moat shot 3 people, but only 1 died immediately.

i think its reasonable to ascribe David Rathbands death to moat, dont you?

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The "Boss of Bosses" of the Sicilian Mafia, Bernardo Provenzano, died in prison today at the age of 83. He had been on the run for 43 years before being arrested in 2006. Responsible for many murders and massacres, including those of courageous magistrates and their bodyguards and seemingly in close contact with the most high-ranking politicians.

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Twenty years ago today Paul Touvier died, a couple of years into his life sentence for crimes against humanity (the first Frenchmen to be found guilty of them). In the Vichy regime he had been an enthusiastic collaborator, the worst of his crimes being the execution of seven Jews.

He managed to lie low for a remarkable length of time after the war, though certainly with the active help of Catholic traditionalists and other sympathizers.

A pleasantly old-fashioned film (by which I mean no sex, no violence and no bad language), loosely based on his life, The Statement, has Michael Caine playing the ageing Touvier.

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Ninety years ago today, one of the first generation of Russian revolutionaries, Feliz Dzherzhinsky died of a heart attack. He had organized the Cheka, the Soviet Union's secret police and was one of the leading lights in the summary executions of the Red Terror. He would have had no problems in describing himself as a terrorist: "We represent in ourselves organized terror". And, to make things crystal clear, those to be terrorized as "enemies of the revoluton" were chosen "on the basis of their class affiliation".Must have been a great guy to have a few beers with.

 

 

 

 

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American cops don't always gets it wrong. On July 22 1934 the Chicago gangster John Dillinger was shot dead by police while fleeing arrest. It was the Feds that did it as the Chicago force couldn't be trusted.

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Posted (edited)

There’s plenty to celebrate today. On July 28 1794 two of the monsters of the French Revolution, Maximilen de Robespierre (“the sea-green incorruptible”) and Louis de Saint-Just (“the Angel of Death”) were finally consumed by the Terror they had been the principle architects of. Guillotined. Saint-Just still hadn’t celebrated his 27th birthday.

But that’s not all. After ten years as Henry VIII’s Mr Fixit, Thomas Cromwell’s run of luck finally ended. After cynically dispatching so many others who got on the wrong side of his boss, he suffered the same fate on Tower Hill on this day in 1540.

(On the inside covers of our school textbook on European history was a reproduction of the death sentence on Louis XVI with the signatures of all the Deputies who voted for it. My history master drew our attention to Robespierre’s signature. It must be the most revealing signature I have ever seen.)

PS And Holbein's portait of him tlls you everything you need to know about Cromwell!

Edited by Colonel Bonkers

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