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Reliability and deposits

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How reliable do you ladies find punters? Do deposits help? Say, £10 in advance by some method? Would this work? Has anyone tried it?

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Do deposits help what? 

We "find" the clients through our websites and Adultwork profiles they contact us, we screen and make a booking, my clients are pretty reliable, it's not very often at all that I get messed about so I guess my screening and gut instinct works!

I don't do deposits, some escorts do, and some punters are happy too them, and other punters would never do them. You could also argue that girls could take deposits and not fulfill a booking you never know. It's all up to the escort and how she decides to work, we are all different. :)

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I would not book an escort who required a deposit as I would be concerned about being scammed.  Although, it may be different if I was looking to make a longer/overnight booking and had seen the lady a couple of times before.  For me it's about having a sense of trust, which you cannot get without meeting someone a couple of times.

 

 

 

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Some time ago a guy paid a deposit without contacting me, just adding a message that he wanted he see me in X day at Y time.  I was planning on going away, so I called him on the number attached to the message telling him there is no need to make a deposit in the future (unless I travel to a very further away location) and wasting time on organising the refund as I remember there were some complications.  He could have at least tried to send me a message but I guess he liked to complicate things.

 

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I use a deposit system with all new clients. It does reduce the number of cancellations, chops and changes but not totally. It does however mean that I have some recompense for the time spent setting up the booking, and holding it. I have had a couple of total no shows, even after paying a significant deposit. Another man who I would only take full payment as a deposit due to his persistent unreliability continued to cancel. I won't accept another booking from him even on that basis, because it's just not ethical. 

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29 minutes ago, Strawberry said:

I use a deposit system with all new clients. It does reduce the number of cancellations, chops and changes but not totally. It does however mean that I have some recompense for the time spent setting up the booking, and holding it. I have had a couple of total no shows, even after paying a significant deposit. Another man who I would only take full payment as a deposit due to his persistent unreliability continued to cancel. I won't accept another booking from him even on that basis, because it's just not ethical. 

I have discovered a different kind of timewasting with deposits, the type who say they are going to pay the deposit, I've agreed time, date place, deposit doesn't arrive, they might then ask/change something about the booking, claim they sent the deposit but it's never arranged. One man a few weeks ago supposedly attempted to pay the deposit 4 times, twice by each method provided. This went on over a period of 4 days. Other times I've given bank details, person disappears.

 

Genuine guys set up the booking, deposit appears, they phone to confirm on the day and voila booking happens.

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In 'general', I wouldn't pay a deposit to see a girl.  However, if I really wanted to see someone that requires a deposit, and if she seemed credible, then maybe.

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3 hours ago, Strawberry said:

I have had a couple of total no shows, even after paying a significant deposit. Another man who I would only take full payment as a deposit due to his persistent unreliability continued to cancel. I won't accept another booking from him even on that basis, because it's just not ethical. 

I've had exactly the same!  Each time a considerable deposit, and he would come up with an excuse 24 hours before.  And yes, it got to a point where I had to ponder the ethics of getting him to pay in advance for a booking that he is likely to not turn up for.   I think even he, after a while, came to realise there was no point. 

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5 hours ago, pollyp23 said:

How reliable do you ladies find punters? Do deposits help? Say, £10 in advance by some method? Would this work? Has anyone tried it?

To answer you first question, I found that 50% of new client bookings would be cancelled or a no show (not confirmed), this improves to around 25% on the second booking. Also some clients do chop and change quite a bit, which can be taxing, timeconsuming and difficult to juggle. So when I started to reduce my client base, and also changed the way I worked I decided to try out a deposit scheme. It works really well, and I do get clients who can commit. Some also like to pay the entire fee upfront in this way, thus avoiding the use of cash, but as described some people can even timewaste with paying the actual deposit! I also apply the deposit system to anyone I've not seen for a while/haven't built up a regular pattern with.

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I wouldn't take a deposit, things may get messy when you go travel that route. 

I do know a couple of other who take a £10 mobile phone top-up as a form of desposit but it's not for me.

If I'm cancelled I'm cancelled, if I'm messed about I'm messed about, it's par for the course and whilst it's regrettable and sometimes annoying it still doesn't bring me any closer to wanting to charge a deposit, it's just sort of comes with the turf. 

 

 

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So, it's definitely somewhat common knowledge that there can be time wasting or untruthful escorts, as well as punters. There is, however, a rather big difference in terms of how much information is potentially available to help make an informed decision. 

With the exception of the Purple Site (which not all of us rely on heavily), there is generally very little way to prove a punter is genuine. Alternatively, lots of escorts have a number of ways of showing that they are worth their salt; heavy web presence, professional and well put together web page, number reviews, and so on. If an escort has all of those things, you can generally rest assured knowing she isn't going to just take your money and run off with it. 

Those escorts, on the other hand, have no way of knowing that punter is going to show up when they make a booking. And perhaps they have to go out of their way to fit the booking into their schedule. Or perhaps there is a lot of planning and prep for it. Regardless, this is where deposits come in, and are a good idea. Asking for a deposit is a great way to weed out time wasters if we are suspicious that someone might be one, and makes us feel as though our time is being valued when the deposit is paid and honoured. Obviously, for long bookings this becomes even more important, as an escort may be depending on that one booking to cover a lot of bills, or something of that nature. 

Basically, use your common sense, as we try to do. If an escort asks you for a deposit, take a look at her web footprint and see if she seems likely to take your (relatively tiny) deposit and run away with it. Frankly, if she seems like a scammer, you probably shouldn't be seeing her in the first place. If she doesn't, then try and understand where she might be coming from in asking for it, and respect that. 

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Yes, my feelings are the same as SweetSummers has made. I'd be insulted if I asked for a deposit and it was refused based on the notion I might be dodgy. I have enough web presence and reviews over several years for it to be clear I am not some fly by night playing acting as an escort. 

I haven't ever asked for a deposit mainly because I'm not keen on long distance bookings with strangers and I don't need to travel afar to be OK financially but I would if I was. 

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It's becoming increasingly common, especially among more established ladies. If they starting scamming clients, it would get around in no-time, so it would be a terrible idea (and wouldn't make much sense, because why would a lady rather run away with your 20 quid than see you for the appointment and receive her full fee?). Perhaps it's a concern to put to one side if a lady has been around for a while and is reasonably well-known, but I can see why you might be nervous of someone brand new with no reviews and so on.

For me, if I've seen someone before, I won't ask them for a deposit. If they're new, and I'm changing a plan to fit them into my schedule, then I will, because it's really frustrating to have made that adjustment and then have someone cancel at short notice with no recompense. It's a discretionary thing, but I think it can be done in good faith.

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As one client said to me 'You make more money turning up for the appointment'. 

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An escort I see who only offers outcalls has told me that the number of fake bookings she's getting seem to be increasing for no apparent reason, and she's toying with the idea of asking for a deposit from new clients. She's not been able to pick up 'bad vibes' from any of the twits playing this game, and she's been around for some years and is canny.

I can see the logic behind her thoughts, just as I've always accepted that a relatively small number of ladies over the past 14 years have asked for part-payment in advance for longer, and longer-distance, bookings if we haven't met previously. I've never had a problem with this, but there again I usually go for 'well-established' escorts for outcalls.

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I'd love the idea of a standing order where I paid a set amount each month and then could punt against that amount. But the level of trust needed is too high to allow the idea. 

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3 hours ago, Lessingham said:

I'd love the idea of a standing order where I paid a set amount each month and then could punt against that amount. But the level of trust needed is too high to allow the idea. 

I had such an arrangement with one client.  He had cerebral palsy and handling money was just such a task for him.  A couple of times the money dropped from his hand and we had a clumsy gathering up of the same.  Plus, he lived outside London so the minimum length sessions for that amount of travel was 4 hours.  So he set up a monthly standing order that allowed him to have enough every couple of months, for a booking length of his dreams.

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Stupid question, but as this is a business mainly based on anonymity how do you pay a deposit? 

Purchase pre paid cards and give the card number to the escort?

I am asking as someone who used AW but won't buy credits. 

Finally, I have realised escorts that don't know me, are surprised by my habit of sometimes booking way in advance. (Due to work commitmenfs).  I expect a deposit would help. 

 

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Amazon vouchers can be bought either online, or for cash from most major supermarkets and convenience stores. The codes from the voucher are all that's required to receive them. 

 

I also have a bank account which receives cash in branch, and bank transfers. 

I have always found that likelihood of cancel is unaffected by the notice given. Just as many short notice cancel, as those made well in advance. 

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50 minutes ago, enquire said:

Stupid question, but as this is a business mainly based on anonymity how do you pay a deposit? 

Purchase pre paid cards and give the card number to the escort?

I am asking as someone who used AW but won't buy credits. 

Finally, I have realised escorts that don't know me, are surprised by my habit of sometimes booking way in advance. (Due to work commitmenfs).  I expect a deposit would help. 

 

You don't actually require a name to send someone a bank transfer, just the account and sort code. Which means it's actually pretty easy to transfer money that way!

Amazon Vouchers also work good for smaller amounts, and are pretty much totally anonymous. I believe there is also a way to send cash ---> bank in such a way that is mostly anonymous as well.

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7 hours ago, SweetSummers said:

You don't actually require a name to send someone a bank transfer, just the account and sort code. Which means it's actually pretty easy to transfer money that way!

Amazon Vouchers also work good for smaller amounts, and are pretty much totally anonymous. I believe there is also a way to send cash ---> bank in such a way that is mostly anonymous as well.

Thanks. If asked, I now know what to do.

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4 hours ago, enquire said:

Thanks. If asked, I now know what to do.

Different girls may have different preferences. :) But I'm sure she'd let you know.

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On 20/05/2016 at 11:37 AM, Strawberry said:

I use a deposit system with all new clients. It does reduce the number of cancellations, chops and changes but not totally. It does however mean that I have some recompense for the time spent setting up the booking, and holding it. I have had a couple of total no shows, even after paying a significant deposit. Another man who I would only take full payment as a deposit due to his persistent unreliability continued to cancel. I won't accept another booking from him even on that basis, because it's just not ethical. 

Of course - losing a 20 pound deposit is much cheaper than going along with an appointment you no longer want.

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On 25/05/2016 at 0:18 PM, Ebonypru said:

I had such an arrangement with one client.  He had cerebral palsy and handling money was just such a task for him.  A couple of times the money dropped from his hand and we had a clumsy gathering up of the same.  Plus, he lived outside London so the minimum length sessions for that amount of travel was 4 hours.  So he set up a monthly standing order that allowed him to have enough every couple of months, for a booking length of his dreams.

ha ha ha - that's worthy of a mr bean visits a hooker sketch

anyway he ought to stuff it in his underwear and get you to fish it out

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3 hours ago, lancelot said:

Of course - losing a 20 pound deposit is much cheaper than going along with an appointment you no longer want. Correct I have had cancels from those paying much more in advance, who really did mess around and who told me to keep the whole amount. 

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