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Half of men who pay for sex are not single, new study finds

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A new study of sex worker clients in Northern and Southern Ireland finds that almost half of men who paid for sex are in a relationship, including marriage, with a similar percentage stating they paid for sex a few times a year.

The new findings are from a study conducted by university researchers, who also found that the majority of those who paid for sex were third-level graduates and a quarter earned more than €60,000 a year.

The findings are based on an online survey of 446 men as well as a smaller number of face-to-face interviews and was published this month.

More details at http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/half-of-men-who-pay-for-sex-are-not-single-study-finds-407933.html

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It's not news to us ;)

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Really? How strange.

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4 hours ago, Colonel Bonkers said:

I trust it's been peer-reviewed.

Sexualities, the journal in which this piece of research has been published, "operates a strictly anonymous peer review process in which the reviewer’s name is withheld from the author and the author’s name is withheld from the reviewer. Each manuscript is reviewed by at least two referees."

https://uk.sagepub.com/en-gb/eur/journal/sexualities#PEERREVIEWPOLICY

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There is the perceived wisdom that we find our lifetime love in our early 20's and never look at anyone else till we die.

That is, of course, complete bollocks. Some divorce and start again. Others have affairs or one night stands. And punters see wgs. Robert winston looked at kids from stable marriages and found many did not have the genes from their mothers husband. So its not just men either.

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Only half, hmmm I think it's WAY more

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Anyone who has hung around parlours, or gone to parties and therefore seen other punters will be more surprised that it is only half.  What surprises me is when I meet younger men.  I was at a parlour in Sheffield last week and shared the lounge with a middle aged asian gentleman (probably married) I am married and middle aged +; in come two lively young men from the van parked at the back who appeared full of vim and vigour and I would have thought could have sex without paying for it.  They didn't look married!  That was 50 / 50, but generally punters I have met have been 30+ and married.

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On 09/07/2016 at 9:26 PM, Chloe Kisses said:

Only half, hmmm I think it's WAY more

 

Yes, Punternet oldtimers should be able to believe what you say.

How about 70%? (of punters who are either married or in some sort of long-term arrangement with a home in it).

In the middle of 2010 there was a PN poll thread on the subject “Has sex rationing at home made you punt?” There were eventually 250-260 votes in it.

You could get plenty of smaller details out of the results, but the basic message was that the 70% figure above was what it said about the voters.

Another roughly accurate summary item from the poll: 70% of those 70% punted because of the unsatisfactory sexual treatment they were getting at home. That included no sexual treatment at all.

Question for WGs: how do those two numbers compare with your own impression of punters you’ve seen?

Maybe we ought to be sending an article about this to the journal that published the Irish survey.

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The two, learned, authors of this interesting survey do not look to be Irish - it'd be interesting to know whether German Punters (Freier, which, of itself, perhaps says something?) are also 50% solid, respectable, married men?

I suppose that there are sad, lonely, singles whose sole warm contact is paid for, but it surprises me to read that only half the Irish punters, getting sex for fun, with the lights on, were married!

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I am shocked- only half. Some of the respondents must be lying, or married men are unable to delete their browsing history!

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I agree is more than half! 

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Well, believe me or not but the majority of the people I know who are seeing escorts are indeed single... I only see escorts when I'm single too may be it's a generation issue :unsure:

T.

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27 minutes ago, Tekonderoga said:

Well, believe me or not but the majority of the people I know who are seeing escorts are indeed single... I only see escorts when I'm single too may be it's a generation issue :unsure:

T.

I only know 1 punter (me) and I am not single.  so 100% of punters I know are not single.

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2 hours ago, Coventrypunter said:

I only know 1 punter (me) and I am not single.  so 100% of punters I know are not single.

I'm in a good mood so let's have also a childish comment, I do know in real life 8 punters and 6 of them are single when they see/saw escorts. I've asked once an escort about her married men client and she said that most of them were seeing escort because of the lack of sexual interest from their wives so instead of entertaining a mistress they preferred to see an escort.  I'd be more cautious than you on this because if the study was completely anonymous I don't see why people would lie on such things... :unsure: 

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28 minutes ago, Tekonderoga said:

I'm in a good mood so let's have also a childish comment, I do know in real life 8 punters and 6 of them are single when they see/saw escorts. I've asked once an escort about her married men client and she said that most of them were seeing escort because of the lack of sexual interest from their wives so instead of entertaining a mistress they preferred to see an escort.  I'd be more cautious than you on this because if the study was completely anonymous I don't see why people would lie on such things... :unsure: 

how do you know how they did sampling, and how did they weight the results to attempt to eliminate sampling bias.  And maybe the married blokes declined to answer because they didnt trust the security of the survey, so there was just a self selecting sample.

anyway, blokes may lie 1) about whetehr they see escorts, and also whether they re single.

 

sorry, I am very very cynical about surveys and sex, and especially about surveys and prostitution.

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From what I know, I'd say that as much as 80% of my clientele are married and that it seems very common that women loose interest in sex, which is a shame - however it can also go the other way too with women being the ones persuing sexual pleasure for the same reason.

The married people I meet, in the most part love their partner dearly - so instead of seeking affairs of the heart they see escorts to get the one thing that is missing from their relationship, as discretely as possible so as not to hurt their other half.

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5 hours ago, MySecretLife said:

From what I know, I'd say that as much as 80% of my clientele are married and that it seems very common that women loose interest in sex, which is a shame - however it can also go the other way too with women being the ones persuing sexual pleasure for the same reason.

The married people I meet, in the most part love their partner dearly - so instead of seeking affairs of the heart they see escorts to get the one thing that is missing from their relationship, as discretely as possible so as not to hurt their other half.

Ava Cortes (1593674) wrote a good piece on this topic in her AW blog (second entry from the top).

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On 14/08/2016 at 0:25 PM, Tekonderoga said:

Well, believe me or not but the majority of the people I know who are seeing escorts are indeed single... I only see escorts when I'm single too may be it's a generation issue :unsure:

T.

Well I suppose that if I were single I would be more likely to be honest about seeing working girls when chatting with mates, when you are married the stakes are too high if idle chatter gets repeated - so married men are more discrete.  I only chat about the hobby with fellow punters who don't know my other half, that way it is much safer.

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4 hours ago, Beast said:

Well I suppose that if I were single I would be more likely to be honest about seeing working girls when chatting with mates, when you are married the stakes are too high if idle chatter gets repeated - so married men are more discrete.  I only chat about the hobby with fellow punters who don't know my other half, that way it is much safer.

I think that might be the case.  The married guys I've seen usually keep it a secret - after all, they're never sure if after a couple of drinks or whatever their mates might accidentally spiil the beans in some way.  But the single guys (not all, but many) tend not to worry quite so much about that.

So yeah, I think (well, actually, I know) that a lot of married men are seeing WGs without even their best friends knowing about it.  Everyone has their secrets, and usually for a very good reason.

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Just proves the conventional wisdom wrong, long time punter net member have discussed this In The past. We don't pay for sex becuse we are desperate, we pay becuse we can afford too and are tied into a relationship that's lacking in quality sex in many cases. 

People that don't punt think it's becuse some men can't get sex at all.

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1 hour ago, uncle travelling matt said:

Just proves the conventional wisdom wrong, long time punter net member have discussed this In The past. We don't pay for sex becuse we are desperate, we pay becuse we can afford too and are tied into a relationship that's lacking in quality sex in many cases. 

People that don't punt think it's becuse some men can't get sex at all.

Yeah, they're usually the same people that think every sex worker only relies on this profession because they can't get another job.  The fact that either of us (WGs or punters) are capable of doing this willingly (as in, it's not our last resort) just doesn't fit within the narrow world view.  Yes, for some people it is a last resort, and the reasons behind that are very complex and completely understandable - you do what you need to do.  But to claim that's the case for everyone just shows willful ignorance.

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2 minutes ago, Coriander said:

Yeah, they're usually the same people that think every sex worker only relies on this profession because they can't get another job.  The fact that either of us (WGs or punters) are capable of doing this willingly (as in, it's not our last resort) just doesn't fit within the narrow world view.  Yes, for some people it is a last resort, and the reasons behind that are very complex and completely understandable - you do what you need to do.  But to claim that's the case for everyone just shows willful ignorance.

I agree. I always laugh when I see people stating that WGs resort to this job because we have no qualifications or skills, yet the same people who have these views are quick to shut down the "people who pay for sex are desperate" views. 

At the end of the day there are countless reasons women may choose to escort and men may choose to pay for sex, as long as its consensual clean and fun, who cares? :) 

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1 minute ago, TightYoungEbony said:

At the end of the day there are countless reasons women may choose to escort and men may choose to pay for sex, as long as its consensual clean and fun, who cares? :) 

I know, right?  I mean, it's not like we're out there murdering puppies or something!  People like sex - get over it.  :P

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