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Not sure where you put intro threads so i just put it here. I'm Ollie from Surbiton, i'm 23 and i'm a virgin. Basically i've come here to learn a lot of things and have fun. I've read a hell of a lot of threads already and i feel that as i keep telling myself, you only live once, i wanna have as much fun as i possibly can for around 10 years or so coz i've wasted a lot of years already. I lost my first proper girlfriend about 7 months ago, she was a virgin too and wasn't ready to lose it at the time, more of a tease that i could lick her out and finger her and do as i pleased but just not 'do it'. She was fit too. All my friends have done it, they have girlfriends etc but i wanna take a different route now. I wanna live life to the full and live dangerously.

I know i'm young and have time on my side to find girls but i'm not interested in relationships now, to put it bluntly i just wanna fuck and have fun. I've done lots of homework on the Soho area, i'm gonna go there as it's easy enough to get to. I have a mate who is in the same situation as me and we're gonna look around together and kinda live the dream a bit. Will go to amsterdam too of course :rolleyes:

Now yeah, i'll be as nervous as hell, i booked an escort first for outcall so i can ease into it a bit, hopefully she bloody comes! but i'm gonna give it a shot and see where it takes me, i'm fed up as i am right now. I don't wanna spend too much money but maybe could have some fun here and there, like every couple of weeks or month or so.

Can anyone possibly tell me if Bitish Babes in Surbiton is any good and not just massage. It's right by where i live but i aint been coz the word 'massage' doesn't really say 'hey, come fuck me' and also if there are any other girls in the Surbiton, Kingston area.

I know you will all give me great advice, any questions, just ask i'm always around on forums and i hope to be a bit of a regular on here throughout time. I Envy the lot of ya for having great confidence (read the Soho Walk-Up thread), i wanna be just like you really lol.

See ya around and take care, Ollie x

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Hi Olli,

You might find the walk ups in Shepherd Market are better than Soho, but they are not allowed to display signs visible from the street. Look for lit open doors and then check inside if there are signs showing what you want.

Phone the massage parlors and ask if they provide 'full service', they will know what you mean.

Take a look on www.acemassage.net

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

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You might find it better to go for an independent (from your own country) as a first time.

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I know i'm young and have time on my side to find girls but i'm not interested in relationships now, to put it bluntly i just wanna fuck and have fun.

Lots of girls have similar aspirations and you don't have to pay them.

Damn, here was me thinking this was an advert for Surbiton Babes.

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Not sure where you put intro threads so i just put it here. I'm Ollie from Surbiton, i'm 23 and i'm a virgin. Basically i've come here to learn a lot of things and have fun. I've read a hell of a lot of threads already and i feel that as i keep telling myself, you only live once, i wanna have as much fun as i possibly can for around 10 years or so coz i've wasted a lot of years already. I lost my first proper girlfriend about 7 months ago, she was a virgin too and wasn't ready to lose it at the time, more of a tease that i could lick her out and finger her and do as i pleased but just not 'do it'. She was fit too. All my friends have done it, they have girlfriends etc but i wanna take a different route now. I wanna live life to the full and live dangerously.

I know i'm young and have time on my side to find girls but i'm not interested in relationships now, to put it bluntly i just wanna fuck and have fun. I've done lots of homework on the Soho area, i'm gonna go there as it's easy enough to get to. I have a mate who is in the same situation as me and we're gonna look around together and kinda live the dream a bit. Will go to amsterdam too of course :rolleyes:

Now yeah, i'll be as nervous as hell, i booked an escort first for outcall so i can ease into it a bit, hopefully she bloody comes! but i'm gonna give it a shot and see where it takes me, i'm fed up as i am right now. I don't wanna spend too much money but maybe could have some fun here and there, like every couple of weeks or month or so.

Can anyone possibly tell me if Bitish Babes in Surbiton is any good and not just massage. It's right by where i live but i aint been coz the word 'massage' doesn't really say 'hey, come fuck me' and also if there are any other girls in the Surbiton, Kingston area.

I know you will all give me great advice, any questions, just ask i'm always around on forums and i hope to be a bit of a regular on here throughout time. I Envy the lot of ya for having great confidence (read the Soho Walk-Up thread), i wanna be just like you really lol.

See ya around and take care, Ollie x

Another bit of advice: now is the best time for you to be enjoying girls aged 18+ - once you've had a little bit of fun, don't forget that there are plenty of girls who will be happy to have a one-night stand/casual fling. Girls like sex just like guys do, just there are completely different societal pressures on them to remain chaste.

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Well ive never been the most confident and tbh girls can get who they want, when they want. It's easy for them, they stand there looking fit, we gotta try n chat em up and if we aint good enough, they just piss off n someone else has a go lol. Clubbing is a tease, online sex/dating is a tease (sex sites are a con anyway).

I don't mind the ages of women as such, there are plenty of escorts that are between 18/25 anyway and yes it's nice to get young but its also better to get experienced i guess. With walk-ups, hookers, escorts, whatever, your guaranteed something even if they don't find you attractive. They get what they want plus extra (money and cock) and we get what we want (pussy) so all's good. With clubbing, parties, etc you aint guaranteed much unless you're like a 8-10/10 rated guy with the look, body, dance moves, the lot. I can't boast that, clubbing aint my thing unless drunk.

British Babes in Surbiton states "We provide all services" so maybe that's a hint. And the Prices are from £60-£150 so surely you must get more than a bloody massage. I might check it tomorrow as i'll be near it.

Thanks for the help anyway so far, i'm just proper desperate right now and horny as hell lol. I know what i wanna do and where to go, just gotta make sure i lose my virginity and not my bottle!. I'll definitely let you know how i get on, i'll probably target summer more though. I'm still working things out.

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Ollie, I really like your blunt and straight to the point approach to things. ;)

Good luck with your quest!

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Well ive never been the most confident and tbh girls can get who they want, when they want. It's easy for them, they stand there looking fit, we gotta try n chat em up and if we aint good enough, they just piss off n someone else has a go lol. Clubbing is a tease, online sex/dating is a tease (sex sites are a con anyway).

I don't mind the ages of women as such, there are plenty of escorts that are between 18/25 anyway and yes it's nice to get young but its also better to get experienced i guess. With walk-ups, hookers, escorts, whatever, your guaranteed something even if they don't find you attractive. They get what they want plus extra (money and cock) and we get what we want (pussy) so all's good. With clubbing, parties, etc you aint guaranteed much unless you're like a 8-10/10 rated guy with the look, body, dance moves, the lot. I can't boast that, clubbing aint my thing unless drunk.

British Babes in Surbiton states "We provide all services" so maybe that's a hint. And the Prices are from £60-£150 so surely you must get more than a bloody massage. I might check it tomorrow as i'll be near it.

Thanks for the help anyway so far, i'm just proper desperate right now and horny as hell lol. I know what i wanna do and where to go, just gotta make sure i lose my virginity and not my bottle!. I'll definitely let you know how i get on, i'll probably target summer more though. I'm still working things out.

I've got to say, it's great fun visiting escorts, but please do try and train yourself up to pull. I'm not the best looking guy either (probably a 6 or 7 out of 10), but I've managed to pull often (maybe not often enough, but I've enjoyed myself).

Have a read of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game:_Penetrating_the_Secret_Society_of_Pickup_Artists

It will get you started on understanding how some (conventionally less attractive) people pull. I wouldn't necessarily recommend getting involved in the "Seduction Community", but go out and try to talk to women, and you may surprise yourself. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

Also, clubs are not the be-all-and-end-all of the pulling scene. Make new friends (both male and female), and meet their friends. Most of the hooking up I've done has been at houseparties.

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I seem to make a habit of posting on virgin threads, I guess because I was in this situation myself not too many years ago.

Assuming you have the money for it, seeing an escort is extremely easy. I prefer pre-booking agency escorts in Central London, try Bunnies of London, Hot Collection, Abella, Supreme69 or Agency Touch of Class (some overlap between these). You call the number and make your booking, they text you the address, you arrive and hand over the money and take a shower, and there you go.

You will realise once you've done it once or a few times that it's not as big a deal as you seem to think it is (though still great obviously).

I think this realisation is key to actually getting girls without paying for it. As long as you have in your head your attitude that the girls you want are more desirable than you are, that they are withholding something you want, that you have to be 8, 9 or 10 etc, this is definitely not going to work for you! So, you need to change your approach. A few ideas:

a) girls your age want sex, just as much as you do, they think about it all the time and talk about it with their girlfriends, it's just society makes them pretend to be uninterested and not "sluts"

;) when girls go out, they are looking for boys, and obviously they can't all get the 10s so they will settle for less, though maybe not till the end of the evening and not in front of their friends

c) girls don't want someone inexperienced or unconfident, that is a turn-off - until they are actually in your bedroom you need to make them feel like sex is cool and fun, and that you are very cool about it because you do it all the time, kind of "take it or leave it" approach

d) you also have to do what your mum would advise, that is be yourself, otherwise you will come across as fake which is a turn-off.

I'm not saying I'm gods gift to women or a great pick up artist but I promise you that I was very inexperienced and a virgin at your age, and yet in my late 20s I managed to fuck and go out with a couple of genuine 10s. Downhill ever since until I discovered escorts but that's another story ...

Here's one thing that really works: when you are going out for the evening, first go see a good-looking escort for an hour and have a really good fuck. Then when you get to the bar or club or party or whatever, you'll be very cool and relaxed with the women because you just got laid. And that will make the women more than usually attracted to you - or even if not, you'll still have had a great evening. This may be a lousy scumball trick and obviously it adds £150 to the cost of your evening out, but try it some time, it has definitely worked for me.

good luck

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I seem to make a habit of posting on virgin threads, I guess because I was in this situation myself not too many years ago.

Assuming you have the money for it, seeing an escort is extremely easy. I prefer pre-booking agency escorts in Central London, try Bunnies of London, Hot Collection, Abella, Supreme69 or Agency Touch of Class (some overlap between these). You call the number and make your booking, they text you the address, you arrive and hand over the money and take a shower, and there you go.

You will realise once you've done it once or a few times that it's not as big a deal as you seem to think it is (though still great obviously).

I think this realisation is key to actually getting girls without paying for it. As long as you have in your head your attitude that the girls you want are more desirable than you are, that they are withholding something you want, that you have to be 8, 9 or 10 etc, this is definitely not going to work for you! So, you need to change your approach. A few ideas:

a) girls your age want sex, just as much as you do, they think about it all the time and talk about it with their girlfriends, it's just society makes them pretend to be uninterested and not "sluts"

;) when girls go out, they are looking for boys, and obviously they can't all get the 10s so they will settle for less, though maybe not till the end of the evening and not in front of their friends

c) girls don't want someone inexperienced or unconfident, that is a turn-off - until they are actually in your bedroom you need to make them feel like sex is cool and fun, and that you are very cool about it because you do it all the time, kind of "take it or leave it" approach

d) you also have to do what your mum would advise, that is be yourself, otherwise you will come across as fake which is a turn-off.

I'm not saying I'm gods gift to women or a great pick up artist but I promise you that I was very inexperienced and a virgin at your age, and yet in my late 20s I managed to fuck and go out with a couple of genuine 10s. Downhill ever since until I discovered escorts but that's another story ...

Here's one thing that really works: when you are going out for the evening, first go see a good-looking escort for an hour and have a really good fuck. Then when you get to the bar or club or party or whatever, you'll be very cool and relaxed with the women because you just got laid. And that will make the women more than usually attracted to you - or even if not, you'll still have had a great evening. This may be a lousy scumball trick and obviously it adds £150 to the cost of your evening out, but try it some time, it has definitely worked for me.

good luck

Lots of good advice - never tried seeing an escort before a night out, but I might have to give it a go soon.

I don't know about the whole "being yourself" thing. I found the trick was to act confident or, in Pick-Up Artist terminology, "Fake It Til You Make It". Once you've had some success while acting confident, you start actually feeling confident, and it snowballs.

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act confident is fine but don't actually tell lies about yourself

the evening out thing? brilliant. I saw an escort, didn't shower after, went out, ended up kissing this hot girl about 30 minutes after I met her, probably still had the escort's pussy juice on my mouth (RO!) I felt really wicked. Haven't heard back from that girl since though :( she gave me her email address.

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Thanks a lot for all the advice guys, i will use it all and surely as you say, once the first few are out the way, i'll get more confidence anyway. Pulling girls isn't really on the agenda at the mo, i just wanna gain sexual experience first and surely there's no better or easier way than this. I work at a basic place in Kingston, only £200 a week but i've managed to save a fair bit so money isn't an issue at all, certainly not now anyway. A few 'punts' a month will do, don't need to spend all my wages weekly lol (although i might get addicted like you lot :().

Desperate to try out Surbiton's British Babes agency too which i've not actually found yet although it's like 10 mins from my house, they have a map so at least i can bloody well find it unlike most places....

I'm a great believer of this "you only live once" quote, if i go out, shag a few women, fulfill fantasies and enjoy myself, then become skint, at least i wouldve had fun getting skint. Most of my mates are skint anyway, my brother is in like £8,000 debt and there are so many people right now jobless coz of this credit crunch. I'm in a good position (i think, i did punch my department manager to the floor at my works xmas party tho but no one saw so theres no proof, even tho the investigation isnt quite over yet).

Now is my time for fun, although i'll have a £10 bet i'll cum within 30 seconds haha!

Cheers guys

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