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1 Year Exclusives: What's your idea of a good deal?

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In the blazing light of the heated debates that have raged on the Silly Prices thread; prompted in part by one particular provider's ratecard price for a year-long exclusive; I would love to hear from punteurs of all stripes, about what they consider might be a good-deal whilst also representing a mutually fair price for a year-long exclusive arrangement with:

A/ A regular girl (ie the average new punt that you might take)

B/ Your current favourite girl. (I doubt it will be a good idea to name names)

Obviously this is pipe-dream stuff for the overwhelming majority of us, and it's a slightly absurd speculation. Nevertheless, gentlemen: start your bidding!

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In the blazing light of the heated debates that have raged on the Silly Prices thread; prompted in part by one particular provider's ratecard price for a year-long exclusive; I would love to hear from punteurs of all stripes, about what they consider might be a good-deal whilst also representing a mutually fair price for a year-long exclusive arrangement with:

A/ A regular girl (ie the average new punt that you might take)

B/ Your current favourite girl. (I doubt it will be a good idea to name names)

Obviously this is pipe-dream stuff for the overwhelming majority of us, and it's a slightly absurd speculation. Nevertheless, gentlemen: start your bidding!

I am pleased that you referred to your suggestions as pipe dream(s), a euphenism for 'nonsense.'

There are so many reasons why this is nonsense:

If by 'exclusive' you mean taking on a WG as a mistress - that is not what punting is about.

If you mean you only visiting her - most punters enjoy variety.

If by 'exclusive' which it ain't, you meanta discount for regular visits to the same WG - that often already exists.

Me thinks - back to lessons on creative (but comprehensible) writing

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I am pleased that you referred to your suggestions as pipe dream(s), a euphenism for 'nonsense.'

There are so many reasons why this is nonsense:

If by 'exclusive' you mean taking on a WG as a mistress - that is not what punting is about.

If you mean you only visiting her - most punters enjoy variety.

If by 'exclusive' which it ain't, you meanta discount for regular visits to the same WG - that often already exists.

Aww, come on and lighten-up Scorchin. ;)

I did openly sign this as being a slightly absurd speculation - it doesn't require a euphemism. Most of us pipe-dream from time to time, including, I dare say, even you. The question is not so disimmilar to a "If money was no object" thread. And believe it or not, exclusives do actually happen, to varying degrees - it just requires a little more imagination for most of us.

Many punters book overnights, and I've come across more than a few who've booked a weekend. I was once myself able to enjoy a week's booking - and I'd do so again like a shot for the right girl.

Quite a few girls advertise week-long encounters - some a month - and I know of a few who advertise a year. Whether one believes they will enjoy much sucess for their trouble is irrelevant. And just to be clear - Nobody's asking about mistresses, variety, or discounts for regular visits: far to variable.

I'm sorry you find it so objectionable that it warrants a public scowl from you. And don't :cool: so much

To any non-trolls: I'd like to hear your notion of a fair-price for a year-long exclusive assignation, according to the criteria in the OP. Ta!

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In the blazing light of the heated debates that have raged on the Silly Prices thread; prompted in part by one particular provider's ratecard price for a year-long exclusive; I would love to hear from punteurs of all stripes, about what they consider might be a good-deal whilst also representing a mutually fair price for a year-long exclusive arrangement with:

A/ A regular girl (ie the average new punt that you might take)

B/ Your current favourite girl. (I doubt it will be a good idea to name names)

Obviously this is pipe-dream stuff for the overwhelming majority of us, and it's a slightly absurd speculation. Nevertheless, gentlemen: start your bidding!

And where would such an agreement be (apart from in tatters) should the lady give up escorting after 6 months? Would you get a refund? Would she do a runner with your money after a month.

AFAIC, the business is too fickle for long term contracts. I prefer a 'pay by shag' basis as I suspect most guys do.

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A good deal would the amount whereby the punter is happy to pay it and the girl happy to give up a year of her life for it.

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I was musing on this, tossing around random figures that were much less than 1.2 million. The reality is that I couldn't bite my tongue for a whole year! There'd be a refund involved at some point :D I've had some fun with clients in my time, but also spent a great deal of that time doing and saying the right things - and this is fine for an hour or several, and how it should be (within obvious limits). A year! I'd never sustain it .... cracks as wide as a canyon after a month, I reckon. Possible violence :cool:;)

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*tears up draft contract and despairs*

;)

I suppose, to stay on topic, I agree with Fun Times.....but I'd never look for such a deal. It's longer than quite a number of marriages.

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*tears up draft contract and despairs*

;)

Bah! I'm sure you'd be the exception :(

*fires up the calculator*

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£100 per hour

1 hour per day

x

60 years

=

fucks' sight cheaper than the ex-

;)

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If i wanted to intermittently spend a whole year with a WG it would be because we clicked and shared the same interests. I punt because i don't want a relationship so to me the idea of getting too familiar with someone you are paying to be with defies the purpose and intent. My re-aligned senses tell me this is no-strings sex, no loyalty obligations and especially not a meeting of minds and shared sentiment.

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In the blazing light of the heated debates that have raged on the Silly Prices thread; prompted in part by one particular provider's ratecard price for a year-long exclusive; I would love to hear from punteurs of all stripes, about what they consider might be a good-deal whilst also representing a mutually fair price for a year-long exclusive arrangement with:

A/ A regular girl (ie the average new punt that you might take)

B/ Your current favourite girl. (I doubt it will be a good idea to name names)

Obviously this is pipe-dream stuff for the overwhelming majority of us, and it's a slightly absurd speculation. Nevertheless, gentlemen: start your bidding!

Well it certainly doesn't appeal to me. BUT for a lady considering such an offer it would have to be a lot more than her average yearly takings I would imagine.

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The concept does not appeal at all and unless you actually believe in the plot of "Pretty Woman" and think that under the grime of the street girl there is Julia Roberts in fantasy mode then you are right in thinking it's a pipe dream. [before it all kicks off, that does not mean that all WGs are street girls or are all grimey, just reminding people of the plot of the film]

However, with unlimited money so as to ensure I could meet all my other commitments I would probably just make an honest woman of my GF and try to see if we can manage a lifelong exclusive.

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OK, assuming that I wanted to spend a year with the same girl and assuming that I had sufficient funds I would offer a "contract" of £150,000 tax free for the year, on top of that would be a "reasonable allowance" for clothes etc.

Some may say the girl could earn that anyway, some girls might, the vast majority would not. ;);)

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OK, assuming that I wanted to spend a year with the same girl and assuming that I had sufficient funds I would offer a "contract" of £150,000 tax free for the year, on top of that would be a "reasonable allowance" for clothes etc.

Some may say the girl could earn that anyway, some girls might, the vast majority would not. :(;)

*does the maths and looks at Jim in awe!!*

Jim, allowing for standard taxation, leaving out the clothing and working it out at your personal maximum fee per hour that means four and three quarters hours per day, every day, shagging !!!

You are clearly a sex God!

;):rolleyes:

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*does the maths and looks at Jim in awe!!*

Jim, allowing for standard taxation, leaving out the clothing and working it out at your personal maximum fee per hour that means four and three quarters hours per day, every day, shagging !!!

You are clearly a sex God!

:(:rolleyes:

The question from the OP was "What's your idea of a good deal".

I have given my opinion.

That does not mean I would be prepared to do it, if for example I were a lottery winner I would prefer to play the field all over the world.

"Standard taxation" would not enter the equation, for tax purposes the WG would simply become a "Mistress" for a year, to the best of my knowledge "kept women" are not liable for tax. ;)

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I think this is what courtesans do. Once saw one interviewed on TV years ago. She was one (or had been) to a wealthy overseas businessman in London who gave her a credit card with an agreed limit on which she went upto each month and he obviously paid. She had at times to be available at short notice to go to functions etc.

Our male royals have them for centuries

An episode of Belle de Jour referred to this, it drove her up the wall with boredom as I re-call.

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"Standard taxation" would not enter the equation, for tax purposes the WG would simply become a "Mistress" for a year, to the best of my knowledge "kept women" are not liable for tax. ;)
Well... technically... If they charge a predetermined fee for it, stipulated by a verbal or signed contract. ("I gave you £150K to boink you exclusively for a year. Deal?", "Deal!" - there's a verbal contract.) Then it's the same as paying for a butler or a private chaffeur or something. It's a consultant on a long term contract. No more no less.

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OK, assuming that I wanted to spend a year with the same girl and assuming that I had sufficient funds I would offer a "contract" of £150,000 tax free for the year, on top of that would be a "reasonable allowance" for clothes etc.

Some may say the girl could earn that anyway, some girls might, the vast majority would not.

Erm having read that and then reading this directly below it.

Gentlemen, let's make 2010 the year of sensible prices, there is simply no need to pay over £120 an hour.

I did the straight maths.

The question from the OP was "What's your idea of a good deal".

I have given my opinion.

That does not mean I would be prepared to do it, if for example I were a lottery winner I would prefer to play the field all over the world.

"Standard taxation" would not enter the equation, for tax purposes the WG would simply become a "Mistress" for a year, to the best of my knowledge "kept women" are not liable for tax. ;)

However, you are saying "to the best of my knowledge" and ignorance is unfortunately not an excuse because HMRC (The Taxman) would say that if you give her £150,000 tax free" then she needs to pay the tax on that which for the maths I have estimated at 30% to allow for allowances etc.

Therefore she would need to pay income tax which you have committed to picking up for her.

You do realise that by your statements you have clearly shown that you are using totally double standards and can actually see the benefits of paying more, you just cant afford to doit and so want the prices kept artificially low??

However, I applaud the fact that you would pay more and £150k is far more than I would be prepared to pay for the same woman for a year.

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Well... technically... If they charge a predetermined fee for it, stipulated by a verbal or signed contract. ("I gave you £150K to boink you exclusively for a year. Deal?", "Deal!" - there's a verbal contract.) Then it's the same as paying for a butler or a private chaffeur or something. It's a consultant on a long term contract. No more no less.

There is a very thin dividing line between a prostitute and a "mistress".

If the client and the girl agreed that she was a "mistress" it would be very hard for the Inland Revenue to prove otherwise ------ even more so if no written contract existed.

It is totally different to being a chauffeur.

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That does not mean I would be prepared to do it, if for example I were a lottery winner I would prefer to play the field all over the world.

However, I applaud the fact that you would pay more and £150k is far more than I would be prepared to pay for the same woman for a year.

Yet again you twist my words to suit your argument ------- I simply said what I thought was a fair deal, I did not say I would do it. ;)

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There is a very thin dividing line between a prostitute and a "mistress".

If the client and the girl agreed that she was a "mistress" it would be very hard for the Inland Revenue to prove otherwise ------ even more so if no written contract existed.

It is totally different to being a chauffeur.

The money would have to go somewhere and the HMRC would see the bank accounts or BS accounts and ask where the income came from and then charge her income tax.

Are you really that naive?

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Paying a girl to be exclusive to you for a year ?

If you shagged her twice a day, you'd be sick of the sight of her after a month.

And what about the girl ? Think of the tedium and boredom she'd suffer.

If a man is punting and he has unlimited funds then he'd go for variety. Tiger Woods, for instance, spent $60,000 on 4 girls for 1 night.

Variety is the spice of life, methinks.

;)

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The money would have to go somewhere and the HMRC would see the bank accounts or BS accounts and ask where the income came from and then charge her income tax.

Are you really that naive?

No, I feel you may be the naive one.

There must be hundreds of "kept women" in this country, Inland Revenue would have to prove she was being "paid" as oppose to being kept, that would make an interesting test case.

Any accountants out there to give us their opinion. ;)

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Paying a girl to be exclusive to you for a year ?

If you shagged her twice a day, you'd be sick of the sight of her after a month.

And what about the girl ? Think of the tedium and boredom she'd suffer.

Only if you took her down to the British Legion club every night.

No doubt a wealthy guy would take her all over the world.

I do however agree with you, variety is far better. ;)

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There must be hundreds of "kept women" in this country, Inland Revenue would have to prove she was being "paid" as oppose to being kept, that would make an interesting test case.

HMRC wouldn't necessarily have a clue but it all depends on how the punter wanted the payment treated. There are various leaders that ascertain whether somebody is employed/self employed but that's largely based on frequency of payments/hours or whether a contract for service is in place but a one off payment in a social context would be difficult to prove as earned income.

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