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From time to time I meet a WG and the usual conversation starting "how long have you been here" ends up with her admitting that she doesn't know anybody in London though she's lived here for 6 months or a year, and never goes out.

Sometimes this comes over as just being somebody who's focused on earning, with no intention of forming long-term connections. Maybe some of them are actively avoiding any connections because of the work they're doing. Just a few times, it has made me worry for her.

What has been the experience of other guys? How often does talk go that way, and how often does it turn out she doesn't have any friends here? How did you react?

Personally, I wasn't sure how to react, and it was a pretty awkward conversation, if you can even call it that - more a series of questions and direct but answers, interspersed with awkward silences.

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From time to time I meet a WG and the usual conversation starting "how long have you been here" ends up with her admitting that she doesn't know anybody in London though she's lived here for 6 months or a year, and never goes out.

Sometimes this comes over as just being somebody who's focused on earning, with no intention of forming long-term connections. Maybe some of them are actively avoiding any connections because of the work they're doing. Just a few times, it has made me worry for her.

What has been the experience of other guys? How often does talk go that way, and how often does it turn out she doesn't have any friends here? How did you react?

Personally, I wasn't sure how to react, and it was a pretty awkward conversation, if you can even call it that - more a series of questions and direct but answers, interspersed with awkward silences.

A friend in need is a friend indeed. You can never be TOO nice.:cool:

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From past experience when I've met ladies here in London who are foreign/EU nationals, as a conversational opener I wouldn't say "How long have you been here" instead opt for the softer inquiry "How are you finding London? How does it compare with Moscow/Tallin/Vilnius/Riga/Krakow etc".

In the end you'll get (most times) a response about their experiences here in the UK but without sounding too intrusive into their private lives, respecting the client-courtesan/wg arrangement.

From knowledge, cannot recall any situation where I've met someone who doesn't know anybody such as a friend, if not a relative, where a lady/WG originated from outside the UK.

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I'm not as streetwise as tony I'm sure, but I suppose I didn't mean literally that "How long have you been here" is my unvarying opening line. But I often start in that area, and indeed "How are you finding London" is a good one.

I'm surprised you haven't met anybody in that situation. Maybe I'm just nosier than you.

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I'm not as streetwise as tony I'm sure, but I suppose I didn't mean literally that "How long have you been here" is my unvarying opening line. But I often start in that area, and indeed "How are you finding London" is a good one.

I'm surprised you haven't met anybody in that situation. Maybe I'm just nosier than you.

I had a punt with a young girl (19) on xmas eve. She was ok (FR available under my name) and it turned out she didn't know anyone in London. She was curious to know about other agencies and told me she got 50% of the punt money - I don't know what the agency percentage is but 50% seemed like a lot.

She asked about other agencies and where to find them. Her internet wasn't sorted in the agency flat she was staying so we couldn't access the internet. She suggested a walk to the local internet cafe and could I show her some there. I didn't mind helping out but as it was about 9pm and xmas eve I told her they are likely to be shut.

We walked in search of one anyway. First time I've ever been in public with a WG and I did find myself a little self-consciuos. I liked the girl though and wanted to help but sadly couldn't there and then so gave her a site where a lot of agencies advertise and told her to go there when she could. She was a nice girl who was doing this to earm money for her family (so she told me). I felt a bit bad, but only briefly, because I had boned her for all I was worth.

I hope she can make some nice friends apart from me :)

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London (as well as other big cities) can be a very lonely place if you dont know people.

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50/50 split is very norm in Agency or Flat or otherwise. Only some agencies charge 30% if the rate is 150 or more or hour and the girl must arrange the place she works from

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Most of them just want to earn the money and move on. sometime girls will find other girls who are similar in their situation and get on with it.

I met a girl about six months ago and she was very sweet and new from Poland and I have seen her few times and she had been moving around and working in different places and mixing with hardened professional and business owners etc and she learned the business very quickly and she become proper prostitute within few months. she now knows how to make money. I don't see her after few initial meeting due to the fact she completely changed into business like service.

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I had a punt with a young girl (19) on xmas eve. She was ok (FR available under my name) and it turned out she didn't know anyone in London. She was curious to know about other agencies and told me she got 50% of the punt money - I don't know what the agency percentage is but 50% seemed like a lot.

She asked about other agencies and where to find them. Her internet wasn't sorted in the agency flat she was staying so we couldn't access the internet. She suggested a walk to the local internet cafe and could I show her some there. I didn't mind helping out but as it was about 9pm and xmas eve I told her they are likely to be shut.

We walked in search of one anyway. First time I've ever been in public with a WG and I did find myself a little self-consciuos. I liked the girl though and wanted to help but sadly couldn't there and then so gave her a site where a lot of agencies advertise and told her to go there when she could. She was a nice girl who was doing this to earm money for her family (so she told me). I felt a bit bad, but only briefly, because I had boned her for all I was worth.

I hope she can make some nice friends apart from me :)

Am I the only person who felt quite sad for this young girl in London on her own apart from a helpful Robin on Christmas Eve.............

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I'm even more sad that its openly published on a message board how you can get hold of a young girl completely on her own in London. If you guys really cared about these girls there is no way that you would be comprimising their safety like that. I hope that it was an oversight and will be removed.

Hannah

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Two things.

Firstly one question I get asked every now and then is "Do you have a friend?" this usually is code for "Can you arrange an MFF". Now I'm in a very large, sparsely populated area so going around blasting out my job to other ladies really does not happen. There also aren't many WGs up here and most keep to themselves.

Secondly we keep being told by a few here that we are running a business and should act as though we are regards customer service, being punctual, going the extra mile etc etc. Then in the next breath we are told not to be "too professional". So what's it to be guys?

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I'm even more sad that its openly published on a message board how you can get hold of a young girl completely on her own in London. If you guys really cared about these girls there is no way that you would be comprimising their safety like that. I hope that it was an oversight and will be removed.

Hannah

Can you explain what you mean, please? Nobody mentioned any information that would allow finding the specific girls involved. Did I miss something?

If you're saying that we should brush this kind of issue under the carpet because somebody might take it as inspiration for a violent act, I can't agree. I think bending over backwards to stay silent in the hope of keeping violent people at bay will help fewer people than keeping problems in the open (within obvious limits).

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I had a punt with a young girl (19) on xmas eve. She was ok (FR available under my name) and it turned out she didn't know anyone in London. She was curious to know about other agencies and told me she got 50% of the punt money - I don't know what the agency percentage is but 50% seemed like a lot.

Varies from 35% to 50% whenever I've asked, seems to be 50% at the busy London agencies with all EE and Latin girls priced at 150, 180, 200, and 35% at high end agencies.

And yes, I've met perfectly intelligent seeming EE girls who don't really know people here in London, stay in the working flat all day 6 days out of 7, and are basically almost completely withdrawn from "normal" life. I've been concerned about them at the time but not much I can do except treat them like a decent human being during the time I have booked.

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Regarding your 2nd para - "What's it to be?"

Organised and reliable from both parties in the arrangements.

Then both turn up, not just hoping, but expecting the other to be an OK person.

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I had a punt with a young girl (19) on xmas eve. She was ok (FR available under my name) and it turned out she didn't know anyone in London.

She was a nice girl who was doing this to earm money for her family (so she told me). I felt a bit bad, but only briefly, because I had boned her for all I was worth.

If I meet a girl like this I give them my phone number so at least they have someone to call.

Recently met a Thai girl who was starting off as an independent/agency girl in London. She had a tough time as the hotel rent was a lot and she did not know how to get started and the agency was not sending round enough clients.

What gave me food for thought though was she showed me pix of her family back home and after much talking it came out she was supporting a big family back home AND a sort of private home for disabled or otherwise

challenged people. So being a prostitute, getting 50%, keeping yourself and supporting all those people back home who are depending on you.

I wished I could have somehow spread the word, I wonder would punters have felt it was a worthwhile cause to know your money was going to be so much appreciated.

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I'm even more sad that its openly published on a message board how you can get hold of a young girl completely on her own in London. If you guys really cared about these girls there is no way that you would be comprimising their safety like that. I hope that it was an oversight and will be removed.

Hannah

Not sure I understand your point. Anyone can make a call and meet a WG and most of the time you are there with the girl on their own. We know how it works: you turn up, they send a text to the agency to say so, you leave, they text you've left. Some have additional security nearby they can call on in case of an emergency, some don't.

Sorry to go off topic slightly but I consider this compromising safety:

I was talking to a WG last year, another nice girl, and she told me of a particularly unpleasant incident. Punter turns up at door, she spies through the hole to check, assumes it all clear and then opens the door. As she opens, another group appear and .... well, the rest isn't nice.

If the general consensus is that I've compromised the girls safety then by all means remove the message. It was not my intention and its not something I would ever knowingly do.

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It's the 'London Effect'...

It is really difficult to make friends in a huge place like this.

I came down from my wee corner of Scotland mid 90's and thought..as I'm a social sort, I will make pals so easily, what, with all these millions of new people?

Did I hell as like.

I found it so unfriendly and nearly went back. I used to sit in my room and cry. My flatmate was always out at his gf's, so, basically his flat was really mines, alone.

But as I was down here to go to uni, I had to stick it out, and eventually...I made friends! Took over a year!

My first friends were my pub worker colleagues, and uni friends and then of course, their friends and it branched out from there.

Then I got to love London! And have been here for 16yrs now, and don't want to ever leave.

Tell that girl to come and chat here, if she doesn't have the option of pub or uni friends, she can find some* decent people here for a starter point. I have found some amazing girls and boys here, just friends, and most are long term now. And it's always helpful to have friends who know what you do.

* remind her of nutter alert too, be choosy..!

Passionate Penny runs a buddy system too, that could be good for this girl. www.escortbuddies.com or www.escortbuddys.com

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Not sure I understand your point. Anyone can make a call and meet a WG and most of the time you are there with the girl on their own. We know how it works: you turn up, they send a text to the agency to say so, you leave, they text you've left. Some have additional security nearby they can call on in case of an emergency, some don't.

Sorry to go off topic slightly but I consider this compromising safety:

I was talking to a WG last year, another nice girl, and she told me of a particularly unpleasant incident. Punter turns up at door, she spies through the hole to check, assumes it all clear and then opens the door. As she opens, another group appear and .... well, the rest isn't nice.

If the general consensus is that I've compromised the girls safety then by all means remove the message. It was not my intention and its not something I would ever knowingly do.

You openly said that you had met a girl that had told you that she was completely alone in London, then went on to say that you could find her FR under your name so I'm assuming that her contact details are also on that FR. Can you not see how this could have put her in danger?

Honey you are probably a very nice guy as are most of the fellows on here, but believe me there are some real weirdo's out there that would jump at the chance of finding themselves a girl completely alone in London and not for the reasons you would want to visit her. Its extremely stupid of any girl to tell clients that they are alone. Thats what I was getting at hun. xx

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You openly said that you had met a girl that had told you that she was completely alone in London, then went on to say that you could find her FR under your name so I'm assuming that her contact details are also on that FR. Can you not see how this could have put her in danger?

Honey you are probably a very nice guy as are most of the fellows on here, but believe me there are some real weirdo's out there that would jump at the chance of finding themselves a girl completely alone in London and not for the reasons you would want to visit her. Its extremely stupid of any girl to tell clients that they are alone. Thats what I was getting at hun. xx

Have to admit I didn't consider nasty weirdos reading this board but I accept its not a impossibility.

I'm happy for the Moderators to delete this thread

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