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Prostitution in UK, making it illegal?!

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Over the past few months, there's been recent police raids at the massage parlours, saunas, etc, etc.

As the new Law comes into force in a few weeks, do you think that will be a pity for the punters?

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its more a pity for the women who'll have to consider becoming indie with all the risks that can bring

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its more a pity for the women who'll have to consider becoming indie with all the risks that can bring

The new law for prostitution is going to be the escort sells the services but we (the clients) aren't allowed to use any escorts, just like in Sweden, Norway and Iceland. :)

Now we are in danger guys.

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The new law for prostitution is going to be the escort sells the services but we (the clients) aren't allowed to use any escorts, just like in Sweden, Norway and Iceland. :)

Now we are in danger guys.

not exactly,clients can pay for sex services as long as the escort is'nt subject to violence,threats.

the main worry is the brothel closure order which can close brothels & confiscate assets,more easier than in the past

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The new law for prostitution is going to be the escort sells the services but we (the clients) aren't allowed to use any escorts, just like in Sweden, Norway and Iceland. :D

Now we are in danger guys.

The law is far more complicated than that --------- it will not be illegal to visit a prostitute unless it can be proven that she is working under duress.

I will just carry on as normal. :);):P

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The new law for prostitution is going to be the escort sells the services but we (the clients) aren't allowed to use any escorts, just like in Sweden, Norway and Iceland.

As mentioned by previous posters the new Act does not make it illegal to see an escort.

Have you actually read the relevant provisions of the Act ?

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2009/ukpga_20090026_en_4#pt2

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I thought with regards to an escort you can legally state you are paying for her time and company, now if you two choose to have sex etc then you are both legally consenting adults.

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I thought with regards to an escort you can legally state you are paying for her time and company

Of course you can, it wouldn't do you any good, but you can by all means.

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Prostitution?

You mean this woman would also have SEX on a paid-for-companionship meeting ?

or...

Honestly, your honour, she seduced me into this naked malarky. I thought she really fancied me. Hell, I thought I finally had found "The One". But now it turns out she is a controlled prostitute. How was I to know ???

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Any money paid is for time and companionship ONLY. Anything else that occurs is a matter of choice between consenting adults. Anything implied or inferred by any of the fantasies or stories within these pages is NOT to be taken as inducement for payment for anything other than time and companionship.

As long as this is written on the web page, they wont be any problems as there is nothing illegal about paying for companionship. That's why this is written on most sites.

Prostitution is already pretty much illegal here as it is, been that way for ages and this government have always been talking about stopping it all together. It will never stop.

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As long as this is written on the web page, they wont be any problems as there is nothing illegal about paying for companionship. That's why this is written on most sites.

Prostitution is already pretty much illegal here as it is, been that way for ages and this government have always been talking about stopping it all together. It will never stop.

The time and companionship disclaimer is worthless.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck ...

Prostitution is not "already pretty much illegal". Prostitution is and never has been illegal in this country.

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Prostitution is already pretty much illegal here as it is, been that way for ages and this government have always been talking about stopping it all together. It will never stop.

Really? would you mind expanding on "pretty much illegal"? What is it that makes prostitution "pretty much illegal"?

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Any money paid is for time and companionship ONLY. Anything else that occurs is a matter of choice between consenting adults. Anything implied or inferred by any of the fantasies or stories within these pages is NOT to be taken as inducement for payment for anything other than time and companionship.

As long as this is written on the web page, they wont be any problems as there is nothing illegal about paying for companionship. That's why this is written on most sites.

Let's assume that prostitution (providing sexual services for gain) is illegal, also let's assume that you are a prostitute (a person that provides sexual services for gain) and let's further assume that you are charged with prostitution and that there is incontrovertible evidence (whatever that might be) to prove that you provided sexual services for gain and unless you can disprove that evidence then you are going to be convicted. Assuming that you cannot disprove the evidence you use your Ace-in-the-hole and address the Judge thus "But I have a T&C disclaimer on my web site that clearly states that ………………", being realistic what do you think are the chances of the Judge saying "Well why didn't you say so in the first place?, case dismissed, you are free to go. Next"?

Same scenario as above except that there is no evidence to prove that you provided sexual services for gain or that you can disprove what evidence there is, obviously you would not use your T&C disclaimer because you would not be convicted and therefore it is not needed, so of what use is your T&C disclaimer?

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Well brothels are illegal in the Uk, so is kerb crawling so it doesn't leave much. I said "pretty much" so it's not all illegal, but the only thing that is legal is a one on one meeting. I basically meant it that as certain things in this country are illegal, its only the matter of time before all aspects of it are illegal.

Well ok "pretty much illegal" is a bit strong, but i know what this country is like.

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Well brothels are illegal in the Uk, so is kerb crawling so it doesn't leave much. I said "pretty much" so it's not all illegal, but the only thing that is legal is a one on one meeting. I basically meant it that as certain things in this country are illegal, its only the matter of time before all aspects of it are illegal.

Well ok "pretty much illegal" is a bit strong, but i know what this country is like.

Ah, I see what you are getting at now, you mean that certain things associated with prostitution are illegal rather than prostitution itself?

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Let’s assume that prostitution (providing sexual services for gain) is illegal, also let’s assume that you are a prostitute (a person that provides sexual services for gain) and let’s further assume that you are charged with prostitution and that there is incontrovertible evidence (whatever that might be) to prove that you provided sexual services for gain and unless you can disprove that evidence then you are going to be convicted. Assuming that you cannot disprove the evidence you use your Ace-in-the-hole and address the Judge thus “But I have a T&C disclaimer on my web site that clearly states that ………………”, being realistic what do you think are the chances of the Judge saying “Well why didn’t you say so in the first place?, case dismissed, you are free to go. Next”?

Same scenario as above except that there is no evidence to prove that you provided sexual services for gain or that you can disprove what evidence there is, obviously you would not use your T&C disclaimer because you would not be convicted and therefore it is not needed, so of what use is your T&C disclaimer?

For Ollie's benefit it's written on most sites because it makes the clients feel better and it makes the escorts/escort agencies feel better. As Sasfan says it's worthless; people can write what they like on websites it doesn't change what's actually happening.

If a Nigerian fraudster writes to you and says "This money is guaranteed under article 32 of the Nigerian financial code, and will be in your account within five working days of you sending your account numbers and copies of your ID"....... you're going to say "yeah, bollocks it is mate".

In REALLY simple terms.....

YOU know it's bollocks when YOU read the disclaimer and YOU expect her to be bent over naked at some point during the meeting otherwise you'll be writing a pretty negative FR.....so why would the courts come to a different conclusion? the money is for time and sex.

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Well brothels are illegal in the Uk, so is kerb crawling so it doesn't leave much.

Ollie my friend ------------ kerb crawling and brothels have always been illegal ---------- however the police normally turn a blind eye to "discrete" brothels, it has never been illegal to be an Independant prostitute. :D

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Ollie my friend ------------ kerb crawling and brothels have always been illegal ---------- however the police normally turn a blind eye to "discrete" brothels, it has never been illegal to be an Independant prostitute. :D

Or a prostitute, and by definition prostitution, per se.

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Here is a question. What happens if it is a male prostitute that is being forced or threatened? I wouldn't be surprised one bit that Harriet Hatemen will ignore that since there is a huge possibility that there could be women forcing men to go into the sex industry against their will and of course Mad Hattie will not want a fellow woman being arrested, her most likely response to that will be "Men deserved to be forced in to prostitution as payback for what they did to women" and which a response could be "Um, Harriet you can thank religion for that part and not to mention that you are very sexist and it goes both ways you know".

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YOU know it's bollocks when YOU read the disclaimer and YOU expect her to be bent over naked at some point during the meeting otherwise you'll be writing a pretty negative FR.....so why would the courts come to a different conclusion? the money is for time and sex.

As long as she is not on the "No Reports" list LOL.

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Here is a question. What happens if it is a male prostitute that is being forced or threatened?

The legislation is gender neutral.

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Ollie my friend ------------ kerb crawling and brothels have always been illegal ---------- however the police normally turn a blind eye to "discrete" brothels, it has never been illegal to be an Independant prostitute. :D

unless you're independently walking the streets touting for business that is ;)

It's only illegal if you're soliciting the girl in public or get caught having sex with her in public. And once the new law comes into effect, it'll be illegal if it turns out the pimp, who you didn't even know existed was, unbeknownst to you forcing, coercing, threatening, or deceiving her into being a prostitute.

If you do it all via internet/phone and meet in private it's perfectly legal.

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As long as she is not on the "No Reports" list LOL.

no - you still might be WRITING a pretty negative FR. It's just nobody else will read it.

Two can play at the "pedantic twat" game :D

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The quote i did is for the purpose of massage parlours and escort agencies (Incall) because if sex is being paid for in them, they count as brothels as there are more than one girl in there charging for sexual activity. As we know, brothels are illegal, but if you go into a massage parlour for example and sex is a service provided, it counts as a brothel. That's why i posted the terms and conditions thing.

As long as it shows that you're not going into one of these establishments paying for sex

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no - you still might be WRITING a pretty negative FR. It's just nobody else will read it.

True, very true.

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