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Another unhelpful newspaper article

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You'll only ever get an accurate article from someone that admits they have been involved. No writer working for the media would ever do that so you have to put up with this type of writing.

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I see at the bottom of the piece it says "Extracted from Living Dolls by Natasha Walter, to be published by Virago..." So the article is, to some extent, an advert for a book soon to be published by a well-known feminist publishing house. No surprise, then, about the line she takes!

It amounts to some anecdotes from two women, cast in a "How could they have fallen so low?" light. I agree it's unhelpful and short-sighted.

I also agree with the author's point about the "hypersexualisation of society" - something which wouldn't occur if people were educated to approach sexual matters in a realistic, well-balanced way instead of the hysterical and blinkered manner so widely promoted by the anti-libertarians in the government and the media.

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Agree or disagree with Ms Walter (who is actually a serious and respected commentator on social issues - not another Julie Bindel type), but her new book is a reflection on what has happened to the aspirations of women in the ten years since she wrote The New Feminism. The latter argued that things were getting better for women; the new book is evidently less optimistic. It is not a book about prostitution but about young womens' views of themselves and the effects of what she sees as a new type of sexist culture on those views. In the words of her book blurb:

Empowerment, liberation, choice. Once the watchwords of feminism, these terms have now been co-opted by a society that sells women an airbrushed, highly sexualised and increasingly narrow vision of femininity. While the opportunities available to women may have expanded, the ambitions of many young girls are in reality limited by a culture that asks them to see consumerism and self-decoration as their only proper occupations, and their bodies as their only passport to success. At the same time we are encouraged to believe that the inequality we observe all around us is born of innate biological differences rather than social factors.

http://www.thebookseller.com/books/author-profiles/101452-welcome-to-the-dolls-house.html

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An article that presented a balanced view of escorting would be very boring, which is why newspapers tend to focus on either the hyper glamourous or the worst of the worst. My job is actually pretty boring, and that's just the way I like it.

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Ms Walter (who is actually a serious and respected commentator on social issues - not another Julie Bindel type)

Being serious and sincere doesn't guarantee that your conclusions, or even your approach, are sensible. Walter's regret seems to me to amount to nothing more than an attempt to distract us from the failure of her own 'third-wave' feminism, an equivalent of the intellectually empty 90s fad for 'third-way' politics. And of course her interest is limited to the improvements for women, not for society as a whole; so men get it in the neck. Again.

Yawn. Same old same old.

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This is Vic Reeves writing in today's Observer. He seems to agree with Natasha Walter's view:

"In the 90s it all seemed to go backwards for women - control drifted away, and slowly it regressed to what it had been like in the 50s and 60s. Even now women don't have the power that they had in the 80s...Women were at their most powerful then, and it's time for them to get it back."

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This is Vic Reeves writing in today's Observer. He seems to agree with Natasha Walter's view:

"In the 90s it all seemed to go backwards for women - control drifted away, and slowly it regressed to what it had been like in the 50s and 60s. Even now women don't have the power that they had in the 80s...Women were at their most powerful then, and it's time for them to get it back."

Vic Reeves? LOL! I suppose there's an increasingly imperceptible difference between serious commentators and comedians, so I suppose I shouldn't really be surprised (although I'm no fan of Mr Reeves's so-called 'comedy')!

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Vic Reeves? LOL! I suppose there's an increasingly imperceptible difference between serious commentators and comedians, so I suppose I shouldn't really be surprised (although I'm no fan of Mr Reeves's so-called 'comedy')!

Dismissing Reeves as 'just a comedian'? Perhaps you don't know much about him? Or maybe you don't like surrealism. Whatever, I quoted him because of the coincidence of similar views to Walter's. Some posters on here take the view of a man - any man - more seriously than that of a feminist - largely because they have a one-eyed view of feminism and can't see past the 'feminazi' characterization so beloved by the far right in the USA.

Shall I get my coat? :o

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IMO, it's a good article and does raise some very interesting points. Definitely a book to put on my to buy and read list.

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IMO, it's a good article and does raise some very interesting points. Definitely a book to put on my to buy and read list.

Yeah, I'll buy two. :o

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Why always such a negative and pessimistic responses on this board to any article that says anything other than what a lovely job prostitution is and we're all having a jolly good time, aren't we? At least a few of the recent articles have moved on from having as their banner the stereotypical picture of the back of a scantily clad girl leaning through the half-open window of a car and we're getting Dr. Magnanti in her evening dress instead.

I thought the Sunday Times article was a well-balanced account of a young girl who'd taken to lap-dancing and moved on from that to prostitution. It pointed out that prostitution has moved from the margins to the mainstream - from shameful to an aspirational occupation (although I don't see that!) but concluded that it was, for her at least, harmful to define yourself through the eyes of the men who buy your body.

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.... In the words of her book blurb:

Empowerment, liberation, choice. Once the watchwords of feminism, these terms have now been co-opted by a society that sells women an airbrushed, highly sexualised and increasingly narrow vision of femininity. While the opportunities available to women may have expanded, the ambitions of many young girls are in reality limited by a culture that asks them to see consumerism and self-decoration as their only proper occupations, and their bodies as their only passport to success. At the same time we are encouraged to believe that the inequality we observe all around us is born of innate biological differences rather than social factors.

Blimey. That's supposed to make us want to pick the book up and read it? Presumably the author feels that in using her planet-sized brain rather than her body as her "passport to success" she has taken the high road, and now has the right, in fact the responsibility, to make damn sure that those girls who are are a perhaps a little sexier than she is, though perhaps also a wee bit less educated, are saved from their fate. Good on her.

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The passage that struck me was this:

"When I interviewed young women about their attitudes to sexuality, I was struck by one apparently trivial fact: that all of them agreed that they would never want to have sex if they hadn't depilated their pubic hair.

"I would never want a man to see me if I hadn't been waxed recently," said one young woman from Cambridge University, and her friends nodded in agreement. "I don't need to have all the hair removed, but it has to be neat," said another. "

So out there in the wonderful world of non-commercial sex the girls have now invente yet another excuse for not giving you a fuck. No wonder the number of punters is increasing all the time.

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Yeah, I'll buy two. :rolleyes:

Aww thanks, you shouldn't have.

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Have to say, there's not a lot I can disagree with in the article either.

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