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Seeking some advice from everyone here.

Take for example you are not sure exactly how long you want the punt to be due to a whole range of factors but you make the decision to commit to say a long 6 hour punt from 9.30 pm-- 3.30 am and you agree a specific fee to cover this time. In addition you also agree an hourly rate thereafter if you decide to extend the meeting.

If the punt has involved time drinks, dinner, chat etc , who should be ' watching the clock ' at 3.30am ? If the punt spills over the end time as everyone is relaxed , is there any special ettiquette here ?

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Well on a long punt I would give some leeway, but at 3.30 in the morning? Have a heart!

Id expect the client to mention he wants to stay longer if it goes more than 15/20 minutes over. You have an agreement for extra hours? Granted some of your time has been spent chatting, eating etc but you cant expect to be let off for that unless you gave her a breaktime to do as she pleases.

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Actually you may have been better off negotiating an overnight fee to save all the messing around. May work out cheaper.

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Is this incall or outcall? If I had an outcall that finished at 3.30am (which I would never accept in the first place, but each to her own) I'm fairly certain I'd be ready to go home by then - not "clock watching", because I don't (I set the alarm on the mobile for 15 minutes after I should have left, just in case) but tired, and needing to be alert enough to drive.

However, if you've already negotiated an "extra hours" fee, it's up to you to do the clock-watching if you don't want to pay more. And if it's an incall, it would be polite to alert her at, say 3am, that time is running out, and would she like to continue, or would she prefer that you piss off home??

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If the punt spills over the end time as everyone is relaxed , is there any special ettiquette here ?

Everything else aside (I don't think it matters about the length of meeting / timing or wining and dining) I personally believe it's down to me. If I don't say anything when the clock strikes at the allotted hour, I'm there on my time.

However, if you DID agree an hourly fee beforehand for if the time runs over, then I'd expect you to pay accordingly.

So if someone books me for 2 hours but I don't say anything until 3 hours later, I'll expect them to only pay for 2 hours. If however they booked me for 2 hours and made clear that they'd like the possibility to extend, then any time we run over, I'll expect to be paid for.

So perhaps it's sometimes best to just go with the flow :)

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Everything else aside (I don't think it matters about the length of meeting / timing or wining and dining) I personally believe it's down to me. If I don't say anything when the clock strikes at the allotted hour, I'm there on my time.

However, if you DID agree an hourly fee beforehand for if the time runs over, then I'd expect you to pay accordingly.

So if someone books me for 2 hours but I don't say anything until 3 hours later, I'll expect them to only pay for 2 hours. If however they booked me for 2 hours and made clear that they'd like the possibility to extend, then any time we run over, I'll expect to be paid for.

So perhaps it's sometimes best to just go with the flow :)

Simple , straightforward advice , as usual--- thanks :)

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I would at least offer the extra if it ran over, she can always say "No thanks!".

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I would at least offer the extra if it ran over, she can always say "No thanks!".

Do you mean as a "gesture"? Why should she refuse it if its part of the prior agreement?

Does anybody else refuse thier salary for any reason?!

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Do you mean as a "gesture"? Why should she refuse it if its part of the prior agreement?

Does anybody else refuse thier salary for any reason?!

You are missing the point.

The OP was ambiguous about their agreement, and so I was suggesting that whatever rate they had agreed for the extra hours should be offered to the girl as presumably the main amount had been paid up front as per usual.

I have been with several WGs who well over-ran and who refused further money as they had been having a good time. Others who quite rightly accepted the money. My current GF became my GF because she actually gave me the money back at the end of a punt and said that there was no need to pay her. We got on extremely well and so began a relationship.

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You are missing the point.

The OP was ambiguous about their agreement, and so I was suggesting that whatever rate they had agreed for the extra hours should be offered to the girl as presumably the main amount had been paid up front as per usual.

I have been with several WGs who well over-ran and who refused further money as they had been having a good time. Others who quite rightly accepted the money. My current GF became my GF because she actually gave me the money back at the end of a punt and said that there was no need to pay her. We got on extremely well and so began a relationship.

Difficulty here is that you offer an interpretation that if the girl is or has enjoyed herself that there is a reasonable chance she might not accept the extra fee ! the corollary of that is ...............!

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Whilst Ghengis is to be commended for his excellent back pedalling, I think my point was missed.:)

If somebody enjoys themself at work they dont refuse payment. What restaurant would enjoy your patronage so much that they wouldnt hear of you paying the bill?!

Why is it any different for a WG? Is she to be seen as being mercenary?

Cant she just say thankyou?!

Not wanting to offend anybody btw!

Edited by Cindy4You
Missed a spot.

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I think the responsibility lies 50:50 between client and Escort. Guys often say they don't like WGs who clock watch or jump up on the dot however it's also not fair to let time extend thinking you can "get away with it". It may well be the lady is "enjoying herself" however she may have made special arrangements to be out at that time which could mean she has turned down bookings or personal arrangements for the next day or even that evening. Ok we are paid handsomely for our 'time' but manouvering your life around bookings all the time does become tiring and can lead to being over tired, as well as missing out on personal/family life.

So probably best to ask at 3.30am if she would like to stay longer and offer the agreed rate or if you do let it overrun make sure you have the extra money in your pocket and offer it at the end of the appointment. Like Cindy I would say if your intention is to overrun then perhaps an overnight rate would be better. May turn out to be not much more than your original agreement.

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I think the responsibility lies 50:50 between client and Escort. Guys often say they don't like WGs who clock watch or jump up on the dot however it's also not fair to let time extend thinking you can "get away with it". It may well be the lady is "enjoying herself" however she may have made special arrangements to be out at that time which could mean she has turned down bookings or personal arrangements for the next day or even that evening. Ok we are paid handsomely for our 'time' but manouvering your life around bookings all the time does become tiring and can lead to being over tired, as well as missing out on personal/family life.

So probably best to ask at 3.30am if she would like to stay longer and offer the agreed rate or if you do let it overrun make sure you have the extra money in your pocket and offer it at the end of the appointment. Like Cindy I would say if your intention is to overrun then perhaps an overnight rate would be better. May turn out to be not much more than your original agreement.

I think the OP is deliberately vague with the arrangements. This should be a warning signal to the girl. She needs to collect an agreed fee beforehand and be cautious on extra time or accept she may get nothing extra for it. I dont like arrangements that are not clear, and prefer to pay at the start of a punt.

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I think the OP is deliberately vague with the arrangements. This should be a warning signal to the girl. She needs to collect an agreed fee beforehand and be cautious on extra time or accept she may get nothing extra for it. I dont like arrangements that are not clear, and prefer to pay at the start of a punt.

Well said 6up. Thats what I was trying to say. :)

Not a huge deal I know,( my clock hasnt even got a battery in it.) but thanks.

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Whilst Ghengis is to be commended for his excellent back pedalling, I think my point was missed.:)

If somebody enjoys themself at work they dont refuse payment. What restaurant would enjoy your patronage so much that they wouldnt hear of you paying the bill?!

Why is it any different for a WG? Is she to be seen as being mercenary?

Cant she just say thankyou?!

Not wanting to offend anybody btw!

Back-peddling my arse!:)

My favourite restaurant tends to give free liquers and coffees to people who have spent a large amout on their food and wines, thus you pay the agreed fee and then they throw in some extras and boy does that make them popular.

Not wanting to offend anyone btw!

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I think the OP is deliberately vague with the arrangements. This should be a warning signal to the girl. She needs to collect an agreed fee beforehand and be cautious on extra time or accept she may get nothing extra for it. I dont like arrangements that are not clear, and prefer to pay at the start of a punt.

I think he was clear as could be surely ?:)

Agreed fee for 6 hours and an agreed fee for every hour that exceed the 6 hours. How much simpler could it get?

"Take for example you are not sure exactly how long you want the punt to be due to a whole range of factors but you make the decision to commit to say a long 6 hour punt from 9.30 pm-- 3.30 am and you agree a specific fee to cover this time. In addition you also agree an hourly rate thereafter if you decide to extend the meeting."

Perhaps I shouldn't say this, but I'm with Ghenghis - if I have a meeting arranged for 2 hours (or whatever) and I let the guy overstay - it's because I want to. It would generally be because I'm really (really) in the mood, having a really great time, there's loads of chemistry and I'm simply not paying any attention to the time whatsoever.

And I then expect no further payment from him. Shock horror but it's happened that they've stayed twice or three times the "agreed" time.

That does not mean they come to expect it (next time) either. When it happens and I'm in the mood, so it is.

If that is "unprofessional" so be it.

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Seeking some advice from everyone here.

Take for example you are not sure exactly how long you want the punt to be due to a whole range of factors but you make the decision to commit to say a long 6 hour punt from 9.30 pm-- 3.30 am and you agree a specific fee to cover this time. In addition you also agree an hourly rate thereafter if you decide to extend the meeting.

If the punt has involved time drinks, dinner, chat etc , who should be ' watching the clock ' at 3.30am ? If the punt spills over the end time as everyone is relaxed , is there any special ettiquette here ?

I think it is very much an individual thing. As you can see from the replies there are those who think each and every moment should be paid for.

I would never accept an appointment during your suggested hours however I am extremely guilty of running over time. That is up to me, it is my time. I have no worries about another client following on.

I am one of the ladies that Ghenghis refers to and yes we went way over the agreed time. That was at my instigation, not his but he still offered the extra.

With some people, even when money changes hands, it will never feel like work. It is perfectly reasonable to like someone and enjoy spending time with them before, during and after shagging them.

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I think it is very much an individual thing. As you can see from the replies there are those who think each and every moment should be paid for.

I would never accept an appointment during your suggested hours however I am extremely guilty of running over time. That is up to me, it is my time. I have no worries about another client following on.

I am one of the ladies that Ghenghis refers to and yes we went way over the agreed time. That was at my instigation, not his but he still offered the extra.

With some people, even when money changes hands, it will never feel like work. It is perfectly reasonable to like someone and enjoy spending time with them before, during and after shagging them.

hi nina --- was wondering why you would refuse a booking between 9.30 pm-- 3.30am ? I would have thought this was fine !

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I think it is very much an individual thing. As you can see from the replies there are those who think each and every moment should be paid for.

I would never accept an appointment during your suggested hours however I am extremely guilty of running over time. That is up to me, it is my time. I have no worries about another client following on.

I am one of the ladies that Ghenghis refers to and yes we went way over the agreed time. That was at my instigation, not his but he still offered the extra.

With some people, even when money changes hands, it will never feel like work. It is perfectly reasonable to like someone and enjoy spending time with them before, during and after shagging them.

Thanks Nina.

In some cases, and Nina's is one, you also make a friend who you chat to outside of punting and look out for. However I do think that chaining a friend to a bed and refusing to allow him a taxi back to his hotel is not quite in my definition of friendship!! :)

The key to all this is mutual respect, I don't take the piss out of WGs I book and I do not expect or accept them taking the piss out of me. Fortunately that is a very rare occurrence.

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Back-peddling my arse!:)

My favourite restaurant tends to give free liquers and coffees to people who have spent a large amout on their food and wines, thus you pay the agreed fee and then they throw in some extras and boy does that make them popular.

Not wanting to offend anyone btw!

Is that before or after you have negotiated a special rate for the expensive food you buy?

Here is the difference - the lady may have agreed a special rate for a lengthy booking, so it might then not be fair to expect 'extras' i.e. more time thrown in. Have had a couple of bookings like that were a client will ask for a large discount - or even assume one then expect/try to overstay significantly. We don't know what the deal is between the two for the OP and it may be she has already dropped her rate significantly for such a long booking anyway.

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Is that before or after you have negotiated a special rate for the expensive food you buy?

Here is the difference - the lady may have agreed a special rate for a lengthy booking, so it might then not be fair to expect 'extras' i.e. more time thrown in. Have had a couple of bookings like that were a client will ask for a large discount - or even assume one then expect/try to overstay significantly. We don't know what the deal is between the two for the OP and it may be she has already dropped her rate significantly for such a long booking anyway.

It is after I have been shown the menu which clearly states the price for a liqueur and for a coffee.

However believe what you want.

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I wasn't making a judgement on anyone on here - I was merely saying it all depends upon the arrangement between Client and WG. It's ok to say well a WG should be expected to overrun or ignore extra time for a high value client, but it may be she has already thrown in something 'extra' in the form of discount or agreeing to go out of her way and that may have to be taken into consideration

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Well said Nina, I agree. The OP though was not talking about special cases though. I think he was asking about general "rule of thumb" you know, what you would offer to all and sundry.

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Its easy to pontificate about what "everyone should do" but we tend to make judgements based on what we personally would do or by drawing on personal experiences to choose courses of action.

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For me I'd expect the WG as the professional to be doing the clock watching. If I overran I'd feel a bit ripped off at being charged extra.

Although I would pay up I certainly wouldn't give any more business and would make the details publicly known on review sites so others would be aware.

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