Joanna Manchester

Has anyone else had this email?

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Has anyone else had this email?

"Hello,

My name is, i'm a photography student at Manchester Metropolitan University and i'm doing a series of photography portraits of escorts in and around Manchester.

i would be interested in making a photograph of you.

The photographs wouldn't be used for commercial purposes and would not be shown to the general public. This just a project i'm doing for myself. i wouldn't disclose any information about you either.

i would want to photograph you in the room where you generally receive clients and it would be a simple portrait with no particular setting required.

As i'm a student, i wouldn't be able to pay very much but i can offer 20 pounds for half an hour of your time.

i understand this is an unusual request and that there are certain safeguards you need to have regarding your identity and i understand a certain level of discretion is required.

Please let me know if you are interested.

Many thanks,"

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Has anyone else had this email?

"Hello,

My name is, i'm a photography student at Manchester Metropolitan University and i'm doing a series of photography portraits of escorts in and around Manchester.

i would be interested in making a photograph of you.

The photographs wouldn't be used for commercial purposes and would not be shown to the general public. This just a project i'm doing for myself. i wouldn't disclose any information about you either.

i would want to photograph you in the room where you generally receive clients and it would be a simple portrait with no particular setting required.

As i'm a student, i wouldn't be able to pay very much but i can offer 20 pounds for half an hour of your time.

i understand this is an unusual request and that there are certain safeguards you need to have regarding your identity and i understand a certain level of discretion is required.

Please let me know if you are interested.

Many thanks,"

Yes I have.

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Has anyone else had this email?

"Hello,

My name is, i'm a photography student at Manchester Metropolitan University and i'm doing a series of photography portraits of escorts in and around Manchester.

i would be interested in making a photograph of you.

The photographs wouldn't be used for commercial purposes and would not be shown to the general public. This just a project i'm doing for myself. i wouldn't disclose any information about you either.

i would want to photograph you in the room where you generally receive clients and it would be a simple portrait with no particular setting required.

As i'm a student, i wouldn't be able to pay very much but i can offer 20 pounds for half an hour of your time.

i understand this is an unusual request and that there are certain safeguards you need to have regarding your identity and i understand a certain level of discretion is required.

Please let me know if you are interested.

Many thanks,"

Fortunatley I haven't Joanna.

If I do get them do you want them forwarded on :) or binned.

However I am also an attempted amateur photographer so if the idea works let me know :D

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I haven't had it, probably for the excellent reason that I'm nowhere near Manchester. Can you contact this person's tutor to find out more?

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It sounds like a scam, it seems like you carry all the risk, and for what potential benefit?

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Has anyone else had this email?

"Hello,

My name is, i'm a photography student at Manchester Metropolitan University and i'm doing a series of photography portraits of escorts in and around Manchester.

i would be interested in making a photograph of you.

The photographs wouldn't be used for commercial purposes and would not be shown to the general public. This just a project i'm doing for myself. i wouldn't disclose any information about you either.

i would want to photograph you in the room where you generally receive clients and it would be a simple portrait with no particular setting required.

As i'm a student, i wouldn't be able to pay very much but i can offer 20 pounds for half an hour of your time.

i understand this is an unusual request and that there are certain safeguards you need to have regarding your identity and i understand a certain level of discretion is required.

Please let me know if you are interested.

Many thanks,"

Love it, copied and pasted and just sending them out now as we speak.

did have to add the word "Mature" in between photography and student though.:D

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You should have put it before "photography". :D

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You should have put it before "photography". :)

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.:D

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Lots of people have by the sounds of it and this type of person will bank on some ladies being foolish enough to do it :)

I'm only based in Manchester one day and week so he won't have found me on ** in Manchester today :D

Its not like we don't get enough cranky emails on there already is it :D

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This just a project i'm doing for myself

Alarm bells :D

Unless he has evidence that his tutors know his doing this, then it's all very dodgy indeed.

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it seems like you carry all the risk

What risk would that be? Provided the workplace is not the same as the home, I fail to see any risk of identification..

and for what potential benefit?

Perhaps publicity?? It's not at all the same thing as identification..

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What risk would that be? Provided the workplace is not the same as the home, I fail to see any risk of identification..

Perhaps publicity?? It's not at all the same thing as identification..

Anyone gullible enough to take up his offer will be doing the following:

Disclosing their work address, allowing him to take photos (and leave the premises with them I assume). Thereafter what guarantee is there that he may not use them in any number of unscrupulous ways. There is no mention or guarantee of maintaining anonymity, or whether facial/identifying photos may be taken.

And the reward for this 30minute session with open-ended liabilities, the princely sum of £20.

As for gaining publicity, most WGs already have their own photos, presumably taken by people they know and trust, and they control and select which of these to put on their websites - for publicity.

You seem to forget that if a working address is compromised, that finding a replacement operating base is not necessarily trivial.

Anyone assessing the risks vs the rewards would imo not touch this offer with a bargepole.

As others have posted, the originator of the email is a complete chancer, and possibly worse.

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Disclosing their work address

WGs do that with punters every day.

allowing him to take photos (and leave the premises with them I assume)

See the bit about credentials below. If she is not yet wholly satisfied that he/she is genuine, she could request to keep the memory stick until she is - she will after all have her security guy around, n'est-ce pas?

There is no mention or guarantee of maintaining anonymity, or whether facial/identifying photos may be taken

There is such a mention - "certain safeguards you need to have regarding your identity" :D

And the reward for this 30minute session with open-ended liabilities, the princely sum of £20

If the pay is too low, that is a completely different matter. No-one else has mentioned that aspect.

As for gaining publicity, most WGs already have their own photos, presumably taken by people they know and trust, and they control and select which of these to put on their websites - for publicity

Some people have sought such publicity in the past, doubtless some will again. It's their choice. Who knows, maybe they might want it to coincide with an appearance on a TV chat show to help combat the feminazis?

As others have posted, the originator of the email is a complete chancer, and possibly worse

We don't know that at all. He/she has claimed to have credentials, these should of course be thoroughly checked, but I kind of assumed everyone would give him/her a chance and not just assume things :)

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Anyone gullible enough to take up his offer will be doing the following:

Disclosing their work address, allowing him to take photos (and leave the premises with them I assume). Thereafter what guarantee is there that he may not use them in any number of unscrupulous ways. There is no mention or guarantee of maintaining anonymity, or whether facial/identifying photos may be taken.

And the reward for this 30minute session with open-ended liabilities, the princely sum of £20.

As for gaining publicity, most WGs already have their own photos, presumably taken by people they know and trust, and they control and select which of these to put on their websites - for publicity.

You seem to forget that if a working address is compromised, that finding a replacement operating base is not necessarily trivial.

Anyone assessing the risks vs the rewards would imo not touch this offer with a bargepole.

As others have posted, the originator of the email is a complete chancer, and possibly worse.

Agreed, this should be in warnings not general discussion.

If this was genuinely some sort of official university project/assignment it would have provided some sort of contact details with the university for a reference, the assigning Tutor. A university photography student would be well versed in model releases before the assignment was made and would disclose that in the email. The university has a duty of care to it's students so would have take steps to prepare the student not let them wander off into a potential risky situation (they don't know Escorts are safe). This is a scam, blatant and crudely executed.

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I would say it is just somebody getting a kick out of doing pictures and a way of getting around it without having to pay too much.

I have had similar emails in the past from soon to be escort photographers and also apparently like this one, photography students :D

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This is a scam, blatant and crudely executed.

I tend to agree, but it is possible that he/she is desperately naive (and if that is so, needs to be put down gently, but firmly)!

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If this was genuinely some sort of official university project/assignment it would have provided some sort of contact details with the university for a reference, the assigning Tutor

There is no reason why the institution should be involved before anyone has said yes in principle. That would be just asking for a lawsuit, surely?

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Unless he has evidence that his tutors know his doing this, then it's all very dodgy indeed.

The OP has (in accordance with rules) not posted the e-mail address whence the offending e-mail came - was it anything@mmu.ac.uk ? If it was that might, potentially, suggest that it could be genuine?

Manc Met Uni does offer a BA (Hons) Photography, and, indeed, a post-grad MA Photography.

By now thinking of a "new, original" subject for project, dissertation or thesis is getting bloody difficult, so this one might (although I share the general suspicion) be combining, or trying to combine, study with pleasure?

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Agreed, this should be in warnings not general discussion.

If this was genuinely some sort of official university project/assignment it would have provided some sort of contact details with the university for a reference, the assigning Tutor. A university photography student would be well versed in model releases before the assignment was made and would disclose that in the email. The university has a duty of care to it's students so would have take steps to prepare the student not let them wander off into a potential risky situation (they don't know Escorts are safe). This is a scam, blatant and crudely executed.

Warning against what exactly? Don't you think you're being overly suspicious here? IMO the OP has put this thread right where it needs to be - for discussion.

If the person making the request is a genuine student he will have a student card, ask to see it and/or get a photocopy of it.

A friend of mine did a photography degree which involved photographing homeless folk in a big city. Nothing strange about this at all.

The uni gives them a brief (which is rather vague), and leaves them to their own devices, they do not get involved.

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There is no reason why the institution should be involved before anyone has said yes in principle.

In my experience as a student (ok a lot time ago :D, when given an open ended brief the idea(s) are always floated with the tutor to make sure they are within scope.

That would be just asking for a lawsuit, surely?

They could confirm the photographer is a student studying the said course and had been given a specific assignment/brief. I don;t see how that leaves them open to any legal action.

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In my experience as a student (ok a lot time ago :), when given an open ended brief the idea(s) are always floated with the tutor to make sure they are within scope

Floated with the tutor yes, but that doesn't mean the institution would want to be mentioned in any subsequent initial request to a putative photographic subject (see below).

They could confirm the photographer is a student studying the said course and had been given a specific assignment/brief. I don;t see how that leaves them open to any legal action

Until the putative subject has said yes in principle, it seems obvious to me that an action for harassment would lie. How does anyone know how anyone (other than professional photographic models) might or might not react? AFAICS it would be best practice for the student to bear the initial risk of the WG consulting lawyers.

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*Offers Harfarhs £20 to get his kit off - purely for my research project you understand :)*

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*Offers Harfarhs £20 to get his kit off - purely for my research project you understand :)*

"You can't handle the truth" ;)

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