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Advice for a 19/20 yr old

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I have been asked by someone very close to me to help them get into this. I know it may sound harsh but I really want to protect her. Have told her to think really long and hard about this world as it can effect the rest of your life. She said she has and still wants to go ahead. Where do you suggest I go from here with them?

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I have been asked by someone very close to me to help them get into this. I know it may sound harsh but I really want to protect her. Have told her to think really long and hard about this world as it can effect the rest of your life. She said she has and still wants to go ahead. Where do you suggest I go from here with them?

My best friend went on at me for ages to show her the ropes a few years back and I refused point blank!

I don't have a problem working but have seen so many girls come into this industry for all the wrong reasons and end up totally messed up and I didn't want this to happen to her :(

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As people grow older they are often faced with obstacles and make decisions that do affect the rest of their lives, sometimes good, sometimes bad. If she is sure then maybe consider introducing her to some of your own nice clients.

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To me 19 or 20 seems a bit too young to be starting in the business, escorts who I have seen on a regular basis have all been older than this and have generally seemed a bit more balanced that I would imagine someone of 19 or 20 would be. I have to admit I am probably influenced by the fact that my own daughter is 20 years old and I still her as 'my lttle girl' even though she is in a sexual relationship with her boyfriend.

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It is really hard because I am so close, but she has known for a number of years that this is what I do and has wanted to do it for some time. Just remembered she is 20, 21 this year.

I think it is for the right reasons, it is for the sex and money. It is not just a need for money thing. She is not cash desperate but would like to be more comfortable. Sorry but she has always been a bit of a slapper. lol.

I just spoke to Charlotte just now and have asked her to sit down and talk with her, Louise if you don't mind also I would be grateful, anyone local who is prepared to talk to her I would appreciate.

I can't see her reading all the warning boards, I think face to face is what she needs so she really takes it all in. I don't want to go in to all the nitty gritty of what I do as we are so close, so someone else really is best. If after speaking to others she wants to go ahead then I will sit her down and tell her all my horror stories and help her find her feet.

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To me 19 or 20 seems a bit too young to be starting in the business, escorts who I have seen on a regular basis have all been older than this and have generally seemed a bit more balanced that I would imagine someone of 19 or 20 would be. I have to admit I am probably influenced by the fact that my own daughter is 20 years old and I still her as 'my lttle girl' even though she is in a sexual relationship with her boyfriend.

That is exactly how I feel Mike, but I think she will do it without my blessing, so to speak. I have always said that I think girls should be over 25. But she has done a lot of living and has grown up fast. I still see her as a baby, but in reality she may only be 9 years younger but mentally she is about on the same level as me.

Whoops Louisa thought you were LouisePS

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Have told her to think really long and hard about this world as it can effect the rest of your life.

It may well effect the rest of her life. I'm a little concerned by the new Vetting and Barring Scheme and the Independent Safeguarding Authority. Where once it was down to police checks and if you had a criminal history, it seems they'll now also be looking at employment records, unsubstantated rumours and other such info to see if there is 'any cause for concern' regarding you working/associating with other peoples' children on a frequent basis.

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Do you know any Parlour owner in your area where she could work for a few days a week, and get some idea of what the punters are like.

It would be easy to let some of your regulars meet her, but that would be giving her a false start in the industry, the same as you should not let her sink or swim, thats why i think working for someone you know would look after her is key, and keep in touch with her after each shift to know what she thinks, and explain any problem she may have, a few parlours where I go, I see the ladies there as being very supportive at times, and this is something that might appeal to you friend, if in time she wishes to go indie then she will have an idea about what is going on, and you are then more at ease giving her advice maybe.

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That is exactly how I feel Mike, but I think she will do it without my blessing, so to speak. I have always said that I think girls should be over 25. But she has done a lot of living and has grown up fast. I still see her as a baby, but in reality she may only be 9 years younger but mentally she is about on the same level as me.

Whoops Louisa thought you were LouisePS

No.... I'm Louisaps :( Kirsty if I were in your shoes, I would tell your friend to come back and speak to you in a couple of years time regarding this topic. You made it in the field by yourself and if she is that determined to do so, she will regardless...at least you have advised her best you can, and if things do start going wrong, you are there for her anyways.

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I have been asked by someone very close to me to help them get into this. I know it may sound harsh but I really want to protect her. Have told her to think really long and hard about this world as it can effect the rest of your life. She said she has and still wants to go ahead. Where do you suggest I go from here with them?

A few weeks ago I said that I had arranged a [ long] booking with a 19 yo and sought advice as to how this meeting should be conducted, given her tender years. Most of the comments saw nothing wrong with a 19 yo being involved in prostitution and many of the posters sought to give helpful advice on how to deal with the situation. Interestingly, many posters felt that no allowance or quarter needed to be given to the girl as a 19yo at all ! Here are a few extracts from that thread;

Just shag her. You're not babysitting, you don't have to make sure you have enough toys and tie up the cupboard under the sink.

+1. The perfect answer to an imbecilic post.

She's older than the legal age of consent, and she knows what she's doing. Nobody's forcing her, she's on the game on her own free will - so just shag her.

If you need to ask questions of ground rules and what to do then you have no hope

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Some great answers already, but these are my thoughts.

IMO she is far too young for all this, but I have a 21 year old daughter and once her mind is made up to do something, she'll do it no matter what opinion her mum or I have.

What you must consider is: do you help her all you can, perhaps hand selecting her first few clients from known good ones, or do you tell her there is no way you will help, thus risking she'll go ahead and jump in blindly without your help and behind your back.

You obviously know her far better than anyone on here. If you told her not to get involved, would she listen?

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That is exactly how I feel Mike, but I think she will do it without my blessing, so to speak. I have always said that I think girls should be over 25. But she has done a lot of living and has grown up fast. I still see her as a baby, but in reality she may only be 9 years younger but mentally she is about on the same level as me.

Whoops Louisa thought you were LouisePS

No worries hun :rolleyes:

My pet hate that is too being called Louise, but its usually men who don't bother to read your website properly and just get your number and call "for details" lol!

I think I'm a bit far away to sit down and talk to het but would if I was nearer and if I can help via pm I will :(

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No.... I'm Louisaps :rolleyes: Kirsty if I were in your shoes, I would tell your friend to come back and speak to you in a couple of years time regarding this topic. You made it in the field by yourself and if she is that determined to do so, she will regardless...at least you have advised her best you can, and if things do start going wrong, you are there for her anyways.

This is exactly what I told my friend and she was maybe 30 at the time and she never got into the industry as she didn't know how to.

Had I got her involved and it had messed her up I would have felt awful but knowing her as I do, I do know she isn't cut out for the job :(

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How about a few days acting as a maid / madame: you know straightening rooms up, showing clients to rooms etc. Just to get the feeling of how things work.

If the lady is fast approaching 21, and in your own words a bit of a 'slapper' - she may well have a much greater level of experience than you think:eek:.

Support may be what she is really after........... could you turn your back on that?

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Knowing what I know and having worked in this industry a long time I would not encourage anyone to get into it. Slapper or not. I am a really strong person but it can get to you, I've seen others really go under and the cash is addictive. I'm glad I do something else as well as work now, cos when I worked full time it really can be soul destroying and mind numbing. Even though I had a well paid job before I worked it is easy to get complacent and stupid about cash. Some people are just not cut out for it. I've had strangers contact me before and ask for help/advice, I always refer them to Forums and SAAFE as I would not want the guilt or responsibilty on my head it it all went tits up for them. I've also had a close friend asking me to help her get a job where I work. I told her I would not as she is a flake as it is and fucking strangers for cash would probably send her over the edge. She has since married a rich bloke instead. Oh well. I will add I have met some really super people through being in this industry but also some absolute cretins. It's always the bad ones you remember and it is RISKY no matter what! is a 19 year old cut out for it I dunno.

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Sorry but she has always been a bit of a slapper. lol.

Kirsty, if what you say reflects you opinion then you must surely realise that your friend will occupy the depths of the industry. You should surely not encourage her to so do.

I don't mean this unkindly but I'm rather surprised at your post.

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I have been asked by someone very close to me to help them get into this. I know it may sound harsh but I really want to protect her. Have told her to think really long and hard about this world as it can effect the rest of your life. She said she has and still wants to go ahead. Where do you suggest I go from here with them?

If she's absolutely determined to do this then she will, regardless of anything you say. Have you got any clients whom you consider to be "true, old fashioned gentlemen" ? You could pass them on to her, in that way, you'll know she'll be treated well.

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A few weeks ago I said that I had arranged a [ long] booking with a 19 yo and sought advice as to how this meeting should be conducted, given her tender years. Most of the comments saw nothing wrong with a 19 yo being involved in prostitution and many of the posters sought to give helpful advice on how to deal with the situation. Interestingly, many posters felt that no allowance or quarter needed to be given to the girl as a 19yo at all ! Here are a few extracts from that thread;

Just shag her. You're not babysitting, you don't have to make sure you have enough toys and tie up the cupboard under the sink.

+1. The perfect answer to an imbecilic post.

She's older than the legal age of consent, and she knows what she's doing. Nobody's forcing her, she's on the game on her own free will - so just shag her.

If you need to ask questions of ground rules and what to do then you have no hope

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Actually, I'm not happy about you using my post as above in this context. Your original post focussed purely on 'how do I entertain someone of this age', you did NOT express any worries about whether she was too young to be a whore. My reply concentrated on this too and I feel you have represented it here as an indication that I didn't give a fuck whether she was emotionally ready to be a hooker or not. That is NOT true.

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Knowing what I know and having worked in this industry a long time I would not encourage anyone to get into it. Slapper or not. I am a really strong person but it can get to you, I've seen others really go under and the cash is addictive. I'm glad I do something else as well as work now, cos when I worked full time it really can be soul destroying and mind numbing. Even though I had a well paid job before I worked it is easy to get complacent and stupid about cash. Some people are just not cut out for it. I've had strangers contact me before and ask for help/advice, I always refer them to Forums and SAAFE as I would not want the guilt or responsibilty on my head it it all went tits up for them. I've also had a close friend asking me to help her get a job where I work. I told her I would not as she is a flake as it is and fucking strangers for cash would probably send her over the edge. She has since married a rich bloke instead. Oh well. I will add I have met some really super people through being in this industry but also some absolute cretins. It's always the bad ones you remember and it is RISKY no matter what! is a 19 year old cut out for it I dunno.

Very good post in my view. You make the exact point i was going to make, i wouldnt want the responsibilty or guilt if it went tits up.

As to the age it comes down to maturity in my experience as a punter. Some 19-20 year olds appear mature IMO but it may all be a brave face, but i know 2 ladies of this age who are confident in mind and body in my many punts with them and who i have seen in social settings. I have also punted with ladies in their 30s who i thought were immature, so for me it depends on the individual not their age as long as they are over 18.:(

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A few weeks ago I said that I had arranged a [ long] booking with a 19 yo and sought advice as to how this meeting should be conducted, given her tender years. Most of the comments saw nothing wrong with a 19 yo being involved in prostitution and many of the posters sought to give helpful advice on how to deal with the situation. Interestingly, many posters felt that no allowance or quarter needed to be given to the girl as a 19yo at all ! Here are a few extracts from that thread;

Just shag her. You're not babysitting, you don't have to make sure you have enough toys and tie up the cupboard under the sink.

+1. The perfect answer to an imbecilic post.

She's older than the legal age of consent, and she knows what she's doing. Nobody's forcing her, she's on the game on her own free will - so just shag her.

If you need to ask questions of ground rules and what to do then you have no hope

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As she was over 18 which is the legal age of becoming an adult here its her choice what she does in my view, there is nothing wrong with it if thats what she decides to do. Unless a person is mentally impaired or severley physically so, she is responsible for her own decisions and actions. People can give advice but ultimately its down to the individual how they live their life IMO. Who am i to tell an 18 year old who i dont know what to do.

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Do you know any Parlour owner in your area where she could work for a few days a week, and get some idea of what the punters are like.

It would be easy to let some of your regulars meet her, but that would be giving her a false start in the industry, the same as you should not let her sink or swim, thats why i think working for someone you know would look after her is key, and keep in touch with her after each shift to know what she thinks, and explain any problem she may have, a few parlours where I go, I see the ladies there as being very supportive at times, and this is something that might appeal to you friend, if in time she wishes to go indie then she will have an idea about what is going on, and you are then more at ease giving her advice maybe.

hows about HOD? Has to one of the safest places for her to be. and she could do some maiding too.

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hows about HOD? Has to one of the safest places for her to be. and she could do some maiding too.

Thanks for offering our jobs out! :( Seriously though a safe environment is important, they are many sharks out there who will take advantage otherwise, there are some nasty men who pray on inexperienced girls, telling them that *stuff* is the norm. I really think the girl herself has to make the decision no one should make it for her. I thought about what I was getting myself into long and hard and on interview I was asked if I really wanted to do it, I made that choice and here I am. Still. In the main I really enjoy my work as it's on my terms and I am responsible for my own actions, but I think some people do find it hard to live with themselves. I'm not one of those, it's mind over matter for me but breaks and R&R are important as burnout is a reality.

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A few weeks ago I said that I had arranged a [ long] booking with a 19 yo and sought advice as to how this meeting should be conducted, given her tender years. Most of the comments saw nothing wrong with a 19 yo being involved in prostitution and many of the posters sought to give helpful advice on how to deal with the situation. Interestingly, many posters felt that no allowance or quarter needed to be given to the girl as a 19yo at all !

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Kirsty's thread is concerned with providing thoughtful advice to her 19 year old friend who is contemplating embarking upon this job......your post was concerned with how to occupy your time for 6 hours with a 19 year old. I'm guessing that most people can realise that these posts have very little in common except the number 19.

The thread titles illustrate my point rather succinctly.......one is titled 'Advice for a 19/20 yr old' and the other is titled 'Sh*t a 19yo!.....wtf am I going to do?'.

Your attempt to connect these two threads together like branches from the same tree does make me wonder if you are an editor of one of our celebrated red tops.

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Actually, I'm not happy about you using my post as above in this context. Your original post focussed purely on 'how do I entertain someone of this age', you did NOT express any worries about whether she was too young to be a whore. My reply concentrated on this too and I feel you have represented it here as an indication that I didn't give a fuck whether she was emotionally ready to be a hooker or not. That is NOT true.

Yes Claire I take your point . However, Kirsty in her post seemed concerned about the particular age of this girl who sought her advice, as if her age puts her in a different category than older girls. The main thrust of my post was to demonstrate that the posters on my thread generally saw no need to treat her any differently than any other age group.There was no suggestion by anyone that due to her young age she may not be emotionally ready for the encounter and therefore treated or 'entertained' in any different way.

As she was over 18 which is the legal age of becoming an adult here its her choice what she does in my view, there is nothing wrong with it if thats what she decides to do. Unless a person is mentally impaired or severley physically so, she is responsible for her own decisions and actions. People can give advice but ultimately its down to the individual how they live their life IMO. Who am i to tell an 18 year old who i dont know what to do.

Well, as a society we tell people all the time what they can and cannot do. However thats another days work.I do get the feeling that some WGs and punters believe that 18/19 yo girls should not be allowed work in the industry. I am not sure about your thesis that age is not really relevant to mature decision making . Experience counts for a lot and unfortunately age does give you experience. There are many exceptions to the rule but I think the general rule stands. I dont know whether 18 is old enough but society has deemed it so, so so be it when it comes to punting.

It's always the bad ones you remember and it is RISKY no matter what! is a 19 year old cut out for it I dunno.

Thats depressing to hear Olivia. Maybe that is why I am conscious of doing what I reasonably can so that the girl enjoys her time with me --- many just say ' shag her ' !

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