SashaB

Turning Techno Phobe

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I appreciate my situation is a little different to most but am I the only one now worrying about the increase of posts on record keeping and the use of email and text to communicate.

What happened to a good old phone call, where you had a conversation with someone over the phone and unless someone goes to the trouble of trying to record that call the history of its contents are lost forever.

These days the industry seems to be getting all techincal which in one breath seems great, its brings more transparency to the industry but does this not also give everyone just enough rope to hang themselves?

Its my understanding that telephone comanies and ISP's are required to keep a digital log of all emails and texts sent. Add to this personal record keeping by some escorts and are we not creating ourselves a massive problem in light of the potential new legislation, let alone the legislation thats already in place?

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Interesting point.

I understand in the new 1st April legislation, it will be an offence even to promise payment for the sexual services of a forced girl. I wonder whether a booking confirmation text/email that was traced to you would constitute proof that you promised to pay for sexual services? Maybe some of the legal experts can help with this.

You could prevent yourself being identified as the source of your emails/web-traffic by using a free web mail account, private browsing and the onion router (to hide the traffic from your ISP, but this is only relevant if you are really paranoid).

I guess a PAYG phone would be difficult to trace texts from but I'm sure it's possible.

I've also noticed some places keep a physical bookings records including phone numbers, I assume these are for that day but who knows what happens to them afterwards. So your information is not any safer with a phone call either.

I doubt the police will bother with all that effort for a £1k fine though.

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I appreciate my situation is a little different to most but am I the only one now worrying about the increase of posts on record keeping and the use of email and text to communicate.

What happened to a good old phone call, where you had a conversation with someone over the phone and unless someone goes to the trouble of trying to record that call the history of its contents are lost forever.

These days the industry seems to be getting all techincal which in one breath seems great, its brings more transparency to the industry but does this not also give everyone just enough rope to hang themselves?

Its my understanding that telephone comanies and ISP's are required to keep a digital log of all emails and texts sent. Add to this personal record keeping by some escorts and are we not creating ourselves a massive problem in light of the potential new legislation, let alone the legislation thats already in place?

I may be wrong, but it's my understanding that a record will be kept of who exchanged emails, but not the content of those emails. So, no different to records kept of phone numbers called or texted, really. Anonymous email addresses are usually used by punters anyway, they'd have to have been involved in all kinds of nefariousness before anyone would bother tracking through ISPs.

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I appreciate my situation is a little different to most but am I the only one now worrying about the increase of posts on record keeping and the use of email and text to communicate.

What happened to a good old phone call, where you had a conversation with someone over the phone and unless someone goes to the trouble of trying to record that call the history of its contents are lost forever.

These days the industry seems to be getting all techincal which in one breath seems great, its brings more transparency to the industry but does this not also give everyone just enough rope to hang themselves?

Its my understanding that telephone comanies and ISP's are required to keep a digital log of all emails and texts sent. Add to this personal record keeping by some escorts and are we not creating ourselves a massive problem in light of the potential new legislation, let alone the legislation thats already in place?

Times are changing. As the always and continuously do.

Phone calls are an utter waste of time (as a first point of contact) and seem to evoke / provoke time wasters galore.

My primary mode of communication is email. It's the only way I can really suss someone (and I'm very careful about who I choose to meet with).

And from a safety perspective, a record of a mobile phone conversation / text exchange is extremely valuable if ever it needs to be traced (by police in the case of stalkers).

I can understand where you're coming from, but can you see the other side too?

Btw, "hang themselves" how exactly?

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Times are changing. As the always and continuously do.

Phone calls are an utter waste of time (as a first point of contact) and seem to evoke / provoke time wasters galore.

My primary mode of communication is email. It's the only way I can really suss someone (and I'm very careful about who I choose to meet with).

And from a safety perspective, a record of a mobile phone conversation / text exchange is extremely valuable if ever it needs to be traced (by police in the case of stalkers).

I can understand where you're coming from, but can you see the other side too?

Btw, "hang themselves" how exactly?

Making a quick phone call remains the only method i use to contact ladies i have never punted with before. I have no interest in emailing or texting initially, i want to hear the ladies voice and ask what i want to ask and gauge her response.

The only exception to this is ladies off here whose posts i had the opportunity to read before PMing them.

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Hmm turning briefly to the techno phobe aspect, whatever happened to handwritten letters? I think I'll try and write more by hand, much more personal.

OK, back to topic now :confused::D

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I may be paranoid but is Iphone GPS really a good thing? If your phones registered "Someone" knows exactly where you are and when!

As far I know mobiles can all be tracked to within 50 yds or so

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Big Brother is watching :)

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Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

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Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

In my case they are :-p

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As far I know mobiles can all be tracked to within 50 yds or so

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retention#United_Kingdom

I'm pretty sure most telcos exceed the "Voluntary Code of Practice"

SMS, EMS and MMS Data - retention period 6 months. Calling number, IMEI - Called number, IMEI - Date and time of sending - Delivery receipt - if available - Location data when messages sent and received, in form of lat/long reference.

Email Data - retention period 6 months. Log-on (authentication user name, date and time of log-in/log-off, IP address logged-in from) - sent email (authentication user name, from/to/cc email addresses, date and time sent) - received email (authentication user name, from/to email addresses, date and time received).

With the IMEI logs, you'll need to buy a mobile phone with cash and not put any other SIM in it.

Also for punters, avoid turning the mobile on when you're at home, drive somewhere and call.

unless someone goes to the trouble of trying to record that call the history of its contents are lost forever.

Actually, after having a phone conversation a few months ago in which the other party went into detail of threats against me, I now record all phone conversations, very easy to do with smartphones (there are many cheap apps for Symbian, Android, iPhone that record to mp3/wav).

I export all SMS text messages to CSV file format using the Nokia PC suite.

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While we're on the topic of record keeping, it's not just agencies or independent WGs. Drivers, for obvious reasons, are also informed of the clients details, e.g. client's hotel check-in name, client's phone number, etc.

There's a local driver who uses that fact he keeps the details saved as a selling point to independent girls. In that he checks if the clients he's driving the WG to has a good/bad history, etc.

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