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GFE or PSE?

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What do you prefer?

What are your point of view and why?

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I enjoy both to be honest, although I'd have to say PSE is my favourite. I've only had one true PSE, with a blonde Canadian with massive fake tits and offered all pornstar experiences and even just thinking about it now gets me hard as a rock! It was like living out a fantasy and I loved it.

However, if I'm in a more relaxed mood, a nice GFE is fantastic.

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I prefer something in between, mainly because I love strap-on fun and I would hardly describe that as GFE. But sometimes a full on PSE can be a turn off for me.

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GFE or PSE?

What do you prefer?

Neither thank you Ma'am.

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Depends on the mood and the WG, I have booked a WG for a GFE and the chemistry, mood etc meant it turned into a PSE, and vice a versa!:)

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What do you prefer?

What are your point of view and why?

We had a thread about this recently. In my experience these terms mean different things to different posters. In my view a GFE is where the lady pampers you, offers DFK, OWO and RO as a minimum and is friendly and enthusiastic, basically she wants to please you.

A PSE is where the lady offers the above but adds services like Anal and CIM, but her attitude is not so laid back because you have asked her to shag her hard in multi positions while she talks dirty to you, i.e. like a Porn Star. IMO it can still be a PSE if some services are not on offer as its the attitude of the lady and punter that defines the punt as a PSE.

Of course these things can be inter-changeable dependent on the punt. With my back i cant go at it too hard nowadays so am very happy with a GFE which sometimes doesnt involve penetrative sex, but essential for me at every punt is DFK, i never punt without it, the more passionate the better, as long as the lady is aware i need to come up for air sometimes.:);)

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well with the GFE our girls leave the washing up and the bins and at the end of the session they nag you to wash up and take the bins out LOL :):eek:

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Depends on the mood and the WG, I have booked a WG for a GFE and the chemistry, mood etc meant it turned into a PSE, and vice a versa!:)

You make a good point. This has happened to me as well.:eek:

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well with the GFE our girls leave the washing up and the bins and at the end of the session they nag you to wash up and take the bins out LOL :):eek:

LOL

If you have better things to do why not? hehe

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What do you prefer?

What are your point of view and why?

I'd say my ideal punt would fall more into the 'GFE' camp, but obviously without the real GFE of being forced to watch Eastenders instead of the football and moaning that I haven't helped around the house :D

I prefer the girl to answer the door in either every day clothes or clothes you would wear for a date, with sexy underwear underneath, as I like the undressing to be part of the punt. I've always found it a little odd that the de facto standard should be nothing but killer heels, lingerie and a smile... who walks around the house like that? I bet quite a few ladies have stories of pleasantly surprised delivery men though :)

A warm welcoming friendly attitude with at least some sort of build up/foreplay and DFK before the main event (i.e. not asking that you both immediately get undressed) is essential. The best introduction is always kiss and an offer of a drink.

OWO and RO are nice to have, as I prefer the penetrative sex. CIM is even nicer to have, I understand this is more from the PSE camp but if this isn't available then you have to hold back a bit during the OWO, which is off putting.

I definitely don't like massive enhanced porn star style breasts or any other surgical enhancements, I've got absolutely no idea why some men find that attractive :confused: Also any kind of uniforms, leathers, etc. are off putting for me and I have no desire to try anal (for either participant) or facials :confused:

For me punting is in place of a GF/wife rather than to escape from one :) so I guess that's why I prefer those things.

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A PSE is where the lady offers the above but adds services like Anal and CIM,

Well maybe I am lucky or maybe its in the approach but the last 3 girls with whom I have been involved were into pretty much anything.

As has been said its mood and moment that makes things GFE or PSE

I think the more PSE markers are no kissing no reverse oral a towel on the bed and pretty much a bare bones punt in a parlour.

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Well maybe I am lucky or maybe its in the approach but the last 3 girls with whom I have been involved were into pretty much anything.

As has been said its mood and moment that makes things GFE or PSE

I think the more PSE markers are no kissing no reverse oral a towel on the bed and pretty much a bare bones punt in a parlour.

As i said they mean different things to different posters.

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We had a thread about this recently. In my experience these terms mean different things to different posters. In my view a GFE is where the lady pampers you, offers DFK, OWO and RO as a minimum and is friendly and enthusiastic, basically she wants to please you.

A PSE is where the lady offers the above but adds services like Anal and CIM, but her attitude is not so laid back because you have asked her to shag her hard in multi positions while she talks dirty to you, i.e. like a Porn Star. IMO it can still be a PSE if some services are not on offer as its the attitude of the lady and punter that defines the punt as a PSE.

Of course these things can be inter-changeable dependent on the punt. With my back i cant go at it too hard nowadays so am very happy with a GFE which sometimes doesnt involve penetrative sex, but essential for me at every punt is DFK, i never punt without it, the more passionate the better, as long as the lady is aware i need to come up for air sometimes.:confused:;)

I disagree (very) strongly. A PSE (to me) means huge fake boobs, thigh high boots or stilettos, red lipstick, hair extensions and attitude to match plus some fake moaning for atmosphere. So a GFE can't provide CIM or anal (while whispering sweet nothings in your ear - against candle light and music)?

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well with the GFE our girls leave the washing up and the bins and at the end of the session they nag you to wash up and take the bins out LOL :D:)

lol, I've actually done one of those things.

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I prefer GFE because it's more caring and loving than the aggressive PSE.

GFE allows me to cuddle, kiss, explore each other's naked bodies and have a slow and sensual sexual intercourse.

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I think most guys like PSE we certainly find our PSE Escorts to be more popular.

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I think the more PSE markers are no kissing no reverse oral a towel on the bed and pretty much a bare bones punt in a parlour.

Would you care to elaborate on a bare bones punt in a parlour?

and the towel on the bed has nothing to do with anything.

I disagree (very) strongly. A PSE (to me) means huge fake boobs, thigh high boots or stilettos, red lipstick, hair extensions and attitude to match plus some fake moaning for atmosphere. So a GFE can't provide CIM or anal (while whispering sweet nothings in your ear - against candle light and music)?

Thigh high boots and stillettos do not consitute a PSE by any stretch of the imagination...

I wear them, both professionally and in my personal life and have nothing to do with PSE...

Also 'fake' boobs again have nothing to do with PSE.

Did it not occur to you that these things ( silicone boobs and high boots/shoes) may make someone feel better about themselves or sexy?

I feel sexier in boots or high shoes does that make me a porn star or mean that every service I give is PSE no...

Nor does it mean that the women I work with who have had surgically enhanced boobs, also give a PSE every time.

I have to wonder sometimes...

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I disagree (very) strongly. A PSE (to me) means huge fake boobs, thigh high boots or stilettos, red lipstick, hair extensions and attitude to match plus some fake moaning for atmosphere. So a GFE can't provide CIM or anal (while whispering sweet nothings in your ear - against candle light and music)?

Oh dear,someone has got a blinkered view of things havnt they....again.

Of course GFE can include cim and anal,its not the services included that changes it to a PSE...its the attitude.Its being a dirty fuck instead of a slow and sensual,its the spunk dribbling down the chin that you wipe off with the back of your hand as oppose to discretely spat into a baby wipe (although how anyone can call that ladylike no matter how its done is beyond me),its the snogging so hard your playing tonsil hockey,its the kneeling on the floor with one hand on his bollocks and a vibrator up your fanny and looking up as you suck his cock so hard he almost calls you dyson as oppose to him lying on the bed whilst you try to maintain eye contact despite the dodgy angle yet reamain alluring.I know you think the sensual slow sexy ear whispering stuff is the real deal,the classy stuff,but its not for everyone,some guys dont like that as its too close to what they have in their relationships,some guys want what they see on the dvd,s,simple.

PSE is the feeling that your doing what is done in the porno,s,thats it,i dont know what porno,s your watching but just as many have fat girls,skinny girls,big tits ,flat tits,short hair,long hair,high shoes,gym shoes,no shoes,....girls in porno,s are just as varied as the girls you meet on the street,in fact you could have met one and not even know it,yes some are the stereotype but that doesnt mean they have a bad attitude any more than you or i.

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I disagree (very) strongly. A PSE (to me) means huge fake boobs, thigh high boots or stilettos, red lipstick, hair extensions and attitude to match plus some fake moaning for atmosphere. So a GFE can't provide CIM or anal (while whispering sweet nothings in your ear - against candle light and music)?

Well I've had a few previous girlfriends who have done all of what you describe above.

Fact is, one just melds into the other depending on your opinion and expectations. GFE is something of a misnomer IMO. Who wants to pay someone to pretend to be your girlfriend for an hour or so anyway? Though I think the term was originally coined to describe a service that went beyond the classic personal service.

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Well I've had a few previous girlfriends who have done all of what you describe above.

Fact is, one just melds into the other depending on your opinion and expectations. GFE is something of a misnomer IMO. Who wants to pay someone to pretend to be your girlfriend for an hour or so anyway? Though I think the term was originally coined to describe a service that went beyond the classic personal service.

Your probably right viz personal service..plus.....add lib services here.xlol.x

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Your probably right viz personal service..plus.....add lib services here.xlol.x

Yes, in the main kissing, which to some was and still is an issue and understandably so, since you girls just don't know who's going to walk through that door. Can't be easy.:)

In fact, as I understand it, some would ague that PSE could in theory exclude kissing all together, as in some porn shoots there is very little of this, if any. .:D

At least in a porn shoot, the actors get to meet who they're working with first.

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Well I've had a few previous girlfriends who have done all of what you describe above.

Fact is, one just melds into the other depending on your opinion and expectations. GFE is something of a misnomer IMO. Who wants to pay someone to pretend to be your girlfriend for an hour or so anyway? Though I think the term was originally coined to describe a service that went beyond the classic personal service.

Exactly how i see it, one just melds into the other depending on your opinion and expectations.:D

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Oh dear,someone has got a blinkered view of things havnt they....again.

Of course GFE can include cim and anal,its not the services included that changes it to a PSE...its the attitude.Its being a dirty fuck instead of a slow and sensual,its the spunk dribbling down the chin that you wipe off with the back of your hand as oppose to discretely spat into a baby wipe (although how anyone can call that ladylike no matter how its done is beyond me),its the snogging so hard your playing tonsil hockey,its the kneeling on the floor with one hand on his bollocks and a vibrator up your fanny and looking up as you suck his cock so hard he almost calls you dyson as oppose to him lying on the bed whilst you try to maintain eye contact despite the dodgy angle yet reamain alluring.I know you think the sensual slow sexy ear whispering stuff is the real deal,the classy stuff,but its not for everyone,some guys dont like that as its too close to what they have in their relationships,some guys want what they see on the dvd,s,simple.

PSE is the feeling that your doing what is done in the porno,s,thats it,i dont know what porno,s your watching but just as many have fat girls,skinny girls,big tits ,flat tits,short hair,long hair,high shoes,gym shoes,no shoes,....girls in porno,s are just as varied as the girls you meet on the street,in fact you could have met one and not even know it,yes some are the stereotype but that doesnt mean they have a bad attitude any more than you or i.

Well I have booked many a GFE and I dont remember ever having sweet nothings whispered in my ear ---- maybe thats just me !:D

To me a GFE punt should include some element of what others call PSE. Yes GFE is primarily about attitude but IMO good Gfe is a combination of the

two.

In a gfe punt I will welcome PSE boots or heels, PSE lingerie and kneeling [ on comfy pillows !:) ] for bj , CIM and WS if the girl does it.

PSE as a specific category means to me -- hard sex, cof or swallow, cock spitting, deep throat etc

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Exactly how i see it, one just melds into the other depending on your opinion and expectations.:D

I believe that (expectations) to be the case with many apsects of this business, hence the importance of research prior to meeting a new girl. None of us want to end up disappointed and although there are never any guarantees, a little pre-punt scrutiny goes a long way.:)

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Interesting to read all the different views on this! IMHO you can't have a GFE unless you are prepared to spend at least 2 hours with the escort. For me, a GFE involves maybe a leisurely shower or bath, then a first round of sex, followed by maybe a cuddle, a drink and a porn video, followed by more sex etc. It's all about being relaxed, intimate and not clock-watching. But the sex itself may be ferocious and 'no holes barred' - after all, that's what some girlfriends want! But for some people the term evidently just means a gentle, intimate, pleasurable experience: that's fine, that's a great punt, but I wouldn't call it a GFE!

A PSE is basically about replicating what you see on a porn movie. And because porn is made for others to watch, it's all about 'performance'. It includes - for instance - sucking the guy's dick noisily and ostentatiously, opening the girl's pussy with fingers or toys so you can see right inside, fucking like a dynamo and making sure you position yourselves so that the viewer can see every detail of your genitalia. So a PSE with an escort involves doing just that - to an imaginary audience (unless you can persuade the maid to help out as all-in-one camera operator, sound engineer and audience ...). In practice I have had only one punt that I could really call a PSE, and that was with Caitlin Coxx - who happens to be a pornstar anyway (if anyone knows where she is now, PLEASE tell me! Caitlin are you there ...?). Apart from Caitlin herself, what really made the experience was that we had free use of the flat, no doors were ever shut, and we had a live audience in the form of another pornstar, Nikita Devine, who was sharing the flat at the time.

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