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France to legalise brothels

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Is France going against the rest of the world by revoking its ban on brothels in place sice 1946?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7473343/France-debates-the-return-of-bordellos.html

Chantal Brunel, a political ally of President Nicolas Sarkozy, says it should be made legal for women to sell sex on licensed premises, and pay tax on their earnings.

Her demand comes as survey revealed six out of ten French people wanted brothels to be legalised.

I always wanted to live in France, this may be the final incentive. :confused:

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Viva la France

It is almost too wonderful to dream of: a renaissance of the One-Two-Two, the Sphinx and the Chabanais...

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Is France going against the rest of the world by revoking its ban on brothels in place sice 1946?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7473343/France-debates-the-return-of-bordellos.html

I always wanted to live in France, this may be the final incentive. :confused:

But I think you'll find a degree of contradiction in France as usual. For example, there was a similar survey some years back and, yes, 66% wanted brothels reopened, but the other 33% wanted all forms of prostitution to be illegal. Also 37% wanted punters criminalised and 22% wanted the prostitutes criminalised. So don't move yet! :confused:

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Bring back the brothel, says female French MPChantel Brunel, of ruling party, says licensed bordellos would protect women from violence - and polls say the public agree

France must bring back the brothel to protect its prostitutes from exploitation, trafficking and aggression in the street, an MP from Nicolas Sarkozy's rightwing party has said.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/18/france-brothel-prostitution-female-mp

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be great if this happens as it may persuade a new govt here to do the same

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Though bordellos are illegal, escort prostitution has always been legal all over France and the girls do pay taxes on their earnings although the ones I met never did. I found punting in Paris more expensive than London, most of the fine escorts charge around

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Marthe Richard, whose 1946 law closed the Maisons Closes has a singularly complicated history....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marthe_Richard

After her 1946 law she was notoriously chased out of a lesbian bar, the Monocle, by a group of displeased and displaced WGs. Later still she changed her mind and regreted the closure of the brothels.

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I found punting in Paris more expensive than London, most of the fine escorts charge around

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We need a European standard on brothels and this is one area in which Brussels should rule over Westminster. I vote that the Germans get to organise the legislation and then every lousy British lap dancing club is converted into an Artemis.:confused:

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We need a European standard on brothels and this is one area in which Brussels should rule over Westminster. I vote that the Germans get to organise the legislation and then every lousy British lap dancing club is converted into an Artemis.:confused:

same goes for motorways and speed limits :confused:

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be great if this happens as it may persuade a new govt here to do the same

And what if man-hater Harriet just happens to be in the party in power again? The anti-trafficking angle is far too high profile/soapbox for it to be dropped now. Makes me wonder if we have 80,000 trafficked women here (according to the misleading reports), how many does France have where some border controls dont even exist?

Personally, I'd prefer to see the UK set up a trial with tolerance zones or something similiar with strict checks and controls. Until you try it, you dont really have sufficient evidence to make an informed judgement, and instead we have to endure the usual mantra about drugs, pimps, slaves, .......zzzzzzz sorry I dropped off....

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Vive la France! It's about time I visited the Moulin Rouge. I hope this turns into actual legislation.

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Personally, I'd prefer to see the UK set up a trial with tolerance zones or something similiar with strict checks and controls. Until you try it, you dont really have sufficient evidence to make an informed judgement, and instead we have to endure the usual mantra about drugs, pimps, slaves, .......zzzzzzz sorry I dropped off....

I'm not being flippant but why do you need the government to do anything - they're doing enough harm, so why expect them to do any good and anything for your benefit ? Surely, after the times you have punted you know when something is 100% cosha and when something isn't quite right, or may not be. Trust your own instincts, and if you can't question why the hell not. ;)

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Its good someone in France has suggested the idea. However remember not so long ago a a certain David 'Blunder' suggested tolerance zones and legalising brothels. Fast forward and look what has happened.

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Its good someone in France has suggested the idea. However remember not so long ago a a certain David 'Blunder' suggested tolerance zones and legalising brothels. Fast forward and look what has happened.

And the feminist was hoping that S

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Is France going against the rest of the world by revoking its ban on brothels in place sice 1946?

I can't believe that UN 1949 convention that called for the abolition of prostitution, and was ratified by 73 countries is still being touted by redfems in the 21st century to justify banning sex. Women are equal in law, and if anything the balance appears to be swinging too far in favour of women. To assume we are taking 1940's ideas into the bedroom, whether paid or not just shows how some women take their sex lives.

I was rooting around this afternoon and found some astonishing amounts of £'s, £'s and Euros that have been used to 'further the advancement of the WGs plight' salaries, projects, 'studies', jollies to meet up, - those middle class educated women with their 6 figure salaries.

If they really had the powers of their convictions they'd be crying out to take only a minimum wage from their salaries and putting the rest in a great big pot labelled 'Fund to Take Women Out of Prostitution' - wonder how much HH, Baird, MacTaggart, Bindel, and we could allow MacShane and Coaker opt in due to being a couple of 'fannies', etc., would have put in to date ?

(It has echoes of the days of the Suffrage Movement where they were making a voice for themselves and couldn't really give a hoot for those employed by them in service)

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I can't believe that UN 1949 convention that called for the abolition of prostitution, and was ratified by 73 countries is still being touted by redfems in the 21st century to justify banning sex.

I'm much obliged to you for the reference! This is one which had completely escaped my attention. Good thing that in UK law treaties do not enter into domestic law without specific statutory authority.

In German law, however any treaty, immediately on ratification, can be pleaded in the civil courts, but in 1949 Germany was still occupied, and once established the Federal Republic didn't think it appropriate to sign up to this one?

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In days gone by, the rich always went to France for their "pleasures". Now it seems history is repeating itself. Free France unlike Repressed Britain. I watched a film on Paris Premiere last night called Desirs Premiers (rated "12" in France, "18" UK but now banned) a David Hamilton film about adolescent love, a film that would if shown in the UK beach the draconian laws on teen nudity, a gritty and thoroughly entertaining drama and for me has no sexual gratification, if downloaded onto a computer in the UK would result in a gang thugs breaking your door down at 6.00am in the morning, and the these thugs; the Police, turning your house over, you would be prosecuted, placed on the sex offenders register, marked down as a paedophile and can be jailed for 10 years, out proprtion penalty just as the Stict Liabilty penalty in Section14 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009; I watched the film so I expect to be arrested and my brain scanned to see what images I have stored there. France like many European has a relaxed and tolerant attitude toward sex and sexual imagery, a lesson the UK could sorely learn, instead of having the attitude that every man jack is potential paedophile and punters are sex abusers. Vive La France, we ARE in the EU AREN'T we.

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Well, thoughts about France doing the safest thing to protect its WGs by legalising brothels have gone out the window.

France have adopted the Swedish Model. These really are dark times. I would have thought Europe with liberal views on sex, would have given free choice to its individual citizens.

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